EPTROFL...it is just a game. Let;s see where else koreans excel? how about no where? well, not counting making kimchees.
they eat kimchee and garlic ( kimchee got load of garlic) and try to scare off vampires and shit
The Process Of Becomming Gosu - Page 2
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japan rules
Japan6 Posts
ROFL...it is just a game. Let;s see where else koreans excel? how about no where? well, not counting making kimchees. they eat kimchee and garlic ( kimchee got load of garlic) and try to scare off vampires and shit | ||
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Stim_Abuser
United States1277 Posts
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
About the idea of talent though. Yes there is a cap. But I don't think many people reach their actual cap. I'd say attitude is the number one factor in determining "talent". Especially in a game like BW where its not physical talent. There have been lots of times where I've felt "stuck" in terms of getting better. But I kept playing and trying to figure out ways to get better, and I broke through. The point is, if you stick with something, you can be very very good at it. Just don't quit. | ||
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Construct
United States33 Posts
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
Korea has without doubt the largest pool of gosu BW gamers in the world. That's a fact and I think it tells us a bit about "what makes a gosu" in this game. The fact that there are disproportionately large numbers of gosu players here tells me that "gosuness" is a result of practice and a supportive environment, not some ingrained "sense" of how the game works. If you believe that "natural talent" plays such an essential role in a gamer's abilities in a game like SC, what you're basically saying (at least in part) is that Koreans are SOMEHOW naturally talented at SC - more than peoples in any other culture. It may well be true, but I personally don't think so. Just more people are crazy about it here and will go to lengths to improve that people in other places wouldn't try (or at least a lot fewer would). It's called prioritization, and for more people here than in other countries, SC is at a higher order of priority. Not everyone can be Boxer. But I believe, with the proper attitude, the right environment, dedication and LOTS of practice, there may be more who can be "Just Like Mike" than we realize. | ||
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Construct
United States33 Posts
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beowolf7
Korea (South)68 Posts
Then... What about china? I think china exceeds or will exceeds soon korea in number of people playng SC. In addition, they are crazy about SC too. Is China gonna be No.1 gosu country of SC? also Russia is another big Country.  | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28701 Posts
I don't think the average korean is any more talented than the average european.. and there have been players from other countries that have managed to do well in tourneys in korea, however the amount of nonkoreans that have done well in korea is obviously a lot smaller than the number of koreans, simply cause there are more koreans that practice broodwar hard and really try to become gosu than nonkoreans.. I mean, players like grrr, elky, slayer and ntt have all proven that they're talented enough to do well even in korea. it's like football, the #100 player in brazil has more talent for football than the #10 player in norway, cause the pool of brazilian players is much larger than the pool of norwegian players. ^_^ | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
SMALL COUNTRY THAT OWNS AT EVERYTHING!!! --> soccer, swimming, judo, horseriding, volleyball,hockey, tennis, ( a little bit  ) ETC ETC!!! | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28701 Posts
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
good keyboard control, good mouse control. you must know how to type, this is a basic keyboard skill and is 100% required. average to above average reflexes, average to above average dexterity and hand size. good vision. intelligence: ability to identify errors and learn from them. ability to rapidly sublimate game knowledge and imitate techniques stolen from others. ability to adapt. ability to think creatively. ability to anticipate. ability to visualize (see stuff before it happens and have responses prepared, then responses to his reponses and so forth). dedication: willing to put in countless hours of mind-dulling repetition. this is what practice is; doing fundamental tasks over and over and over until it becomes 2nd nature. willingness to lose alot. willingness to persevere. see elky. see boxer. i guess those are the basics. having confidence and believing in yourself is probably even more important but success cannot happen without the fundamentals. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
On December 11 2002 16:52 Casper... wrote: basic physical ability: good keyboard control, good mouse control. you must know how to type, this is a basic keyboard skill and is 100% required. average to above average reflexes, average to above average dexterity and hand size. good vision. intelligence: nicely put  ability to identify errors and learn from them. ability to rapidly sublimate game knowledge and imitate techniques stolen from others. ability to adapt. ability to think creatively. ability to anticipate. ability to visualize (see stuff before it happens and have responses prepared, then responses to his reponses and so forth). dedication: willing to put in countless hours of mind-dulling repetition. this is what practice is; doing fundamental tasks over and over and over until it becomes 2nd nature. willingness to lose alot. willingness to persevere. see elky. see boxer. i guess those are the basics. having confidence and believing in yourself is probably even more important but success cannot happen without the fundamentals. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On December 11 2002 16:52 Casper... wrote: basic physical ability: good keyboard control, good mouse control. you must know how to type, this is a basic keyboard skill and is 100% required. average to above average reflexes, average to above average dexterity and hand size. good vision. intelligence: ability to identify errors and learn from them. ability to rapidly sublimate game knowledge and imitate techniques stolen from others. ability to adapt. ability to think creatively. ability to anticipate. ability to visualize (see stuff before it happens and have responses prepared, then responses to his reponses and so forth). dedication: willing to put in countless hours of mind-dulling repetition. this is what practice is; doing fundamental tasks over and over and over until it becomes 2nd nature. willingness to lose alot. willingness to persevere. see elky. see boxer. i guess those are the basics. having confidence and believing in yourself is probably even more important but success cannot happen without the fundamentals. Almost exactly my thoughts. If with ability to adapt you not only mean in-game stuff, but also to adapt depending on which map you're playing then I agree completely. | ||
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tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
1) They practice like crazy and are very disciplined 2) They are skilled at strategy games | ||
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tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
- china has maybe 30x as many people as korea and japan maybe 3x and korea still kicks their ass in GO. For those who don't kno, GO is the premier strategy game in the world with the top players making millions a year. And Go is just as big if not bigger in china and japan as in korea and they have the same infrastructure so you cant use the BW excuse there. I find this fact more amazing than korean domination in BW. In brood war you can make the claim that other cuontries don't have the "gaming environment". So despite the fact that there are propbably more BW gamers worldwide than in korea, most of those are BGH players rather than people who follow it on TV. So this gives koreans an advantage. However, in GO china and japan have the same playing field and many times as many people. It is just as important in those countries, yet koreans just keep on producing these 15 year old geniuses who can't be beaten. 3) Good hand-eye coordination - look at who won the gold medal in sports like archery, and air-pistol shooting or whatever it is. Not saying that they are superior to everyone else in the world, but that they have a natural inclination towards that area. Just like scandinavians are the world's strongest men and blacks rule track and field events. | ||
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z7-TranCe
Canada3158 Posts
doesn't make you good,it makes you worse. you need healthy lifestyle to be able to think to your full potential, smuft can back me up on that.. --; | ||
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japan rules
Japan6 Posts
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NoName
United States1558 Posts
But seriously, admins  | ||
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iloveo.0
Egypt43 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
I left Russia 3 years ago, Average pay there was about 100-150 USD a month and connection to internet cost about 50 USD a month - more expensive than in US or Canada! I believe it's still the same way. | ||
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