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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 20 2009 04:14 GMT
#1
My job this summer is to basically find a way to get a new political forum started up and running. (Yes, I am being paid, no, I am not programming or coding or anything like that). However, I have very little idea of how to do this. While I am a member of multiple forums, I am not an originator of forums. I want to know, what makes you sign up for forums? How do you know which forums you want to join, and which ones to not? What repels you from a forum, and what draws you to it? Do contests and promotions help? What about the level of moderation? If I wanted to control the topics, should I blatantly say so or what? Any advice would help here

If this is in the wrong section, my apologies.
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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 04:17:52
June 20 2009 04:15 GMT
#2
"politics" repels me to joining a forum.
political people have their opinions and ideals. those are not changed by what others post on forums.
a political forum sounds like a flame war in the making. the donkeys will team up with the donkeys and the elephants will do the same.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44199 Posts
June 20 2009 04:16 GMT
#3
Content, contribution, forum ethos and lots of backlinking and self publicising. Take a look at Spartan's posts to get an idea of the latter. Message admins on websites you'd be competing with and offer to become partners (in practical terms you'll just link to each other) to get a one way stream of members from them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
June 20 2009 04:20 GMT
#4
just take a look at the religion and political debates on this forum. it's full of flames, which repels a ton of people away.
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
June 20 2009 04:24 GMT
#5
Really BIG BOOBS as you're banner
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 20 2009 04:24 GMT
#6
You need a common identity for your forum-goers. Doesn't matter what it is.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 20 2009 04:24 GMT
#7
Perhaps I should rephrase what I'm saying by political:

I'm looking at something more similar in context to something like Realclearpolitics, something as neutral as possible. This is what I am asking-should I also use be heavy handed in moderating?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 20 2009 04:27 GMT
#8
Punch and Pie.


Or Starcraft rep database.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 04:29:45
June 20 2009 04:27 GMT
#9
On June 20 2009 13:15 omninmo wrote:
"politics" repels me to joining a forum.
political people have their opinions and ideals. those are not changed by what others post on forums.
a political forum sounds like a flame war in the making. the donkeys will team up with the donkeys and the elephants will do the same.
Unfortunately this is pretty accurate. In general the only people who seek out political forums are merely looking for a soapbox for them to preach their ideals, and this seems to be the stigma attached to most political forums that don't pander exclusively to the right or left (Michael Moore or Sean Hannity forums for example which are usually just circle jerks rather than preaching). If the forums are moderated very well then maybe you can try to advertise that factor. Become active in other political forums and subtly try to plug this forum into some of your discussions.

Maybe project wonderful serves some political forums/sites that you can use to advertise on (if you have a budget for that). I actually have no experience on this either, so take my advice lightly.
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
June 20 2009 04:31 GMT
#10
good informed discussion. only let the best people discuss in depth.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 20 2009 04:33 GMT
#11
On June 20 2009 13:24 motbob wrote:
You need a common identity for your forum-goers. Doesn't matter what it is.

LOL i see what you did there
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 20 2009 04:41 GMT
#12
1) Quality content
...
other stuff
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
June 20 2009 04:45 GMT
#13
On June 20 2009 13:24 Caller wrote:
Perhaps I should rephrase what I'm saying by political:

I'm looking at something more similar in context to something like Realclearpolitics, something as neutral as possible. This is what I am asking-should I also use be heavy handed in moderating?


of course it should be heavily moderated, since it's some politcal forum, you don't want random republican come in and post "shut you you dumb baby killer" or some democrat say something like "fuck you, you rich prick".
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 20 2009 04:48 GMT
#14
Make a religious debate section
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 20 2009 04:58 GMT
#15
Obv you need some kind of attractions
It can either be pure resources aka TL's TLPD and connections
Or it can be something of a fad
Or you can link to 4Chan... but a political forum... Hey it might work HAhHA u'll get lots argueing for underage sex is OKAY!

So here is how it goes

YOu make a forum, title it underage sex
Post a link to 4Chan
Post a link to Christian forum

They'll duke it out and it'll get SO HUGE hAhhaA

I'm 100% serious, try it
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 20 2009 05:00 GMT
#16
On June 20 2009 13:24 Caller wrote:
Perhaps I should rephrase what I'm saying by political:

I'm looking at something more similar in context to something like Realclearpolitics, something as neutral as possible. This is what I am asking-should I also use be heavy handed in moderating?


As a more serious note. If you lead it right and the people who joined your forum is targetted right, and the topic is right, you won't need modding to get rid of things. It'll just work out.
FOr instance, try to visit a tech forum, there is NO NEED to be modded at all because everyone's so civilized and not angry.
For instance, visit battle.net forum then of course it needs to be modded.

Base line is you want to choose your target forum goers carefully
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 20 2009 05:40 GMT
#17
I like a forum to have a simple layout and great discussions.
No no no no its not mine!
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
June 20 2009 05:44 GMT
#18
you should have separate forums for each political party so they can talk freely without having flame wars every time.
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
June 20 2009 05:45 GMT
#19
Keep it simple, stupid.
Legends never gg
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
June 20 2009 05:48 GMT
#20
rekrul
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
June 20 2009 05:51 GMT
#21
I see the "current number of users online" and the number of recent posts as an indicator of the quality of the forum, with higher being better quality. But to get the ball rolling, especially for a political forum, it'll be hard, and that's why you were hired to do it :p.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
June 20 2009 05:56 GMT
#22
Tell them you will drop the banhammer on them if they join and post poorly. It works for TL
Peanuts.
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States378 Posts
June 20 2009 06:02 GMT
#23
Tell people they can't join your forum. They'll start coming in droves.
We Are All One
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 13:40:31
June 20 2009 13:39 GMT
#24
Getting a new forum started is probably going to require a pre-existing site/community of some sort. If you have a site with political articles, try allowing comments on the articles first, then opening a forum once you're getting a lot of comments.
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
June 20 2009 16:48 GMT
#25
You need to start working discussions about the subject - and these discussions need to be interesting. You need to create some content. On the base of this content you need to build a crew of forum members, who will share the same view. The best way to unite people is to find an enemy for them, e.g. you can say that your forum was hacked by other party etc.
Also you should make "general" topic, about music, youtube videos etc.

Another option is making a random section and making something completely random there, which will get your site on digg...
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
June 20 2009 16:54 GMT
#26
You need members, who are so impressed by the quality of the forum that they tell their friends to come. I think that's what it all boils down to in the end, word of mouth. And the best way to generate that is to have quality discussion and content.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
June 20 2009 17:05 GMT
#27
The site itself needs to host good content. You need a foundation for the forum.

You can try to invite weekly "famous" guest writers to your forum in an attempt to stand out.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
June 20 2009 17:47 GMT
#28
On June 20 2009 13:15 omninmo wrote:
"politics" repels me to joining a forum.
political people have their opinions and ideals. those are not changed by what others post on forums.
a political forum sounds like a flame war in the making. the donkeys will team up with the donkeys and the elephants will do the same.


Pretty much this. Debating politics online is one of the worst, most frustrating things you can do. It will also make you painfully aware of just how many mentally handicapped people there are in the world that have internet access.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
June 20 2009 18:21 GMT
#29
If you want any form of quality in a forum where you discuss politics, you need HEAVY moderation and strict rules. One of the forums I frequent has been very heavily moderated for years, with a lot of rules about which subjects are ok and which aren't (e.g. the Israel-Palestine subject is banned since it easily derails into flamewars, and until just recently any topics about religion were banned for the same reason). This has lead to very high quality topics and polite members - root out the weeds before they sprout and you won't have to worry about them later on.
With the quality going up, more members will join over time.
1000 at least.
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