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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
May 30 2009 11:02 GMT
#61
Good riddance I say.
觀過斯知仁矣.
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 11:16:11
May 30 2009 11:13 GMT
#62
that reminds me i wanted to look up the effects of taurin on wikipedia and i felt like alice in wonderland , it helps everything with no side effects.

besides how can they ban scientology ips they probably have computers all over the world , so wikipedia guys must ban them after they edit, to counter that just need to use pc bangs , school pc, work pc , proxies they wont be able to ban all this ip range.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 30 2009 11:49 GMT
#63
wow this is awesome.

bold move
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 30 2009 11:57 GMT
#64
On May 30 2009 14:48 cUrsOr wrote:
i think my boss is a scientologist :O
our library just HAPPENS to have like every LRH book ever written.
its scarry.

What a terrible library.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
May 30 2009 12:16 GMT
#65
I remember in Georgia the Books a Million had a huuuuge section for 'religion and spirituality', and not only was there a tiny, tiny 'philosophy' section; it was full of books like 'understanding the bible philosophically'!!

PS in reference to the OP, sometimes people get a little too bound up in the 'human rights' issues. You can talk about these people's inalienable rights, but that's pretty much bullshit when they're not going to be hurt. It's just like excluding someone from a group of friends, it's not like hanging them. The guys deserve to fuck off and stop editing wiki.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
May 30 2009 14:37 GMT
#66
I don't see how it'll affect much. The people could use a proxy IP or if that doesn't work a computer somewhere else.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 30 2009 14:52 GMT
#67
They've been policing wikipedia vandalism since it was created a billion years ago, they know the limitations of their ability to deny people access to Wikipedia. It's more of a public flogging on Scientology
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
May 30 2009 15:03 GMT
#68
On May 30 2009 14:45 Carnac wrote:
Scientology shouldnt even be legal in the 1st place


why not?
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
May 30 2009 15:14 GMT
#69
wait if i understand this correctly they say articles about scientology are biased..? thats like saying articles about christianity are biased or articles about evolution are biased , just let ppl chose what they want to believe in.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
May 30 2009 15:53 GMT
#70
On May 31 2009 00:14 LuckyOne wrote:
wait if i understand this correctly they say articles about scientology are biased..? thats like saying articles about christianity are biased or articles about evolution are biased , just let ppl chose what they want to believe in.


No, having an article about a religion doesn't make it biased. Scientologists Made the article biased by altering it.
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
May 30 2009 16:11 GMT
#71
On May 31 2009 00:53 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 00:14 LuckyOne wrote:
wait if i understand this correctly they say articles about scientology are biased..? thats like saying articles about christianity are biased or articles about evolution are biased , just let ppl chose what they want to believe in.


No, having an article about a religion doesn't make it biased. Scientologists Made the article biased by altering it.

wouldnt a scientologist be the best person to write an article about his religion? just like an evolutionary biologist would be the best at writing an article about evolution.

whats truly biased are wiki admins.

they want a scientific approach to religion article.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
May 30 2009 16:16 GMT
#72
Don't ever rely on Wikipedia for controversial issues or issues that a small group of people are really passionate about. That "small group of passionate people" will almost always disproportionately influence the article because they care so much more about it.

Wikipedia is great for dispassionate topics.
I will eat you alive
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
May 30 2009 16:20 GMT
#73
On May 31 2009 01:16 FieryBalrog wrote:
Don't ever rely on Wikipedia for controversial issues or issues that a small group of people are really passionate about. That "small group of passionate people" will almost always disproportionately influence the article because they care so much more about it.

Wikipedia is great for dispassionate topics.

and articles involving big money
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
May 30 2009 16:25 GMT
#74
Wow how strange. I was just reading about various Scientology articles on wikipedia last week and at the time, I had thought that a lot of the articles had a pro-Scientology slant. That wasn't entirely unsuprising because the effort Scientology puts into its PR, but I had no idea it was on this large of a scale.
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 30 2009 16:32 GMT
#75
Compare:

X was a prophet of God who wrote the inspired Z.

vs

X is believed by the Y church to have been a prophet of God who wrote the inspired Z.


See how one is much more biased than the other? Sure, a Scientologist is probably the most qualified to write the articles, but if they don't write them from an objective point of view, then they're in violation of wikipedia's terms of service.
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
May 30 2009 16:51 GMT
#76
On May 31 2009 01:32 Biochemist wrote:
Compare:

X was a prophet of God who wrote the inspired Z.

vs

X is believed by the Y church to have been a prophet of God who wrote the inspired Z.


See how one is much more biased than the other? Sure, a Scientologist is probably the most qualified to write the articles, but if they don't write them from an objective point of view, then they're in violation of wikipedia's terms of service.

so a Scientologist cant write an article about scientology from an objective point of view.
but an evolutionary biologist can write an article about evolution from an objective point of view?

some bias are allowed others arent.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
May 30 2009 17:03 GMT
#77
On May 31 2009 01:51 LuckyOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 01:32 Biochemist wrote:
Compare:

X was a prophet of God who wrote the inspired Z.

vs

X is believed by the Y church to have been a prophet of God who wrote the inspired Z.


See how one is much more biased than the other? Sure, a Scientologist is probably the most qualified to write the articles, but if they don't write them from an objective point of view, then they're in violation of wikipedia's terms of service.

so a Scientologist cant write an article about scientology from an objective point of view.
but an evolutionary biologist can write an article about evolution from an objective point of view?

some bias are allowed others arent.

Clearly not. It's clear that the scientologists were just writing to make themselves look better anyway. From this statement you made I doubt you will be willing to argue rationally anyway, there wasn't any sort of thought put into the difference between a SCIENTIST and a RELIGIOUS NUT.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
May 30 2009 17:05 GMT
#78
How is banning IP going to help? :S
Since most people gets a new IP everytime they reconnect, or they can go internet cafe or use a proxy.
Leenock the Punisher
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 30 2009 17:05 GMT
#79
On May 30 2009 20:57 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 14:48 cUrsOr wrote:
i think my boss is a scientologist :O
our library just HAPPENS to have like every LRH book ever written.
its scarry.

What a terrible library.

actually youre right, lol. our collection is terribly small, its mostly just a place for JrHigh and low-income folks to use the internet for free. thats like 90% of our activity. which is fine with me, but its more of an internet hub than a library.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 30 2009 17:15 GMT
#80
But banning all Scientology IPs is pretty bad. I mean, other than being scientologists, these people could be perfeclty intelligent citizens capable of contributing to various wikipedia articles on other topics.

this may be true but if they were indeed that intelligent then they should have realized something like this would have happened and thus tried to spread the word of scientology in some other ways

for example u don't see us Christians getting banned for editing stuff about evolution or w.e
ggyo...
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