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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 30 2009 18:05 GMT
#81
bears beets.. battlestar galactica
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 19:08:19
May 30 2009 18:19 GMT
#82
On May 30 2009 14:39 cUrsOr wrote:
they should do the same thing to corporations.
like Coke and DoW and Monsanto who edit shit on there to let everyone know how safe their products are.

i do hope they take this a little further.

ty good post.



QFT, Monsanto is fucking epitome of corporate evil. They got their hands in everything too, I was sad to find out a few months ago that even NPR is 'supported' by Monsanto.

PS- 4chan and Anonymous are probably lulz'in all over the place.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Scientology



Day[9] Will appreciate this one:

thrown into one little volcano and my Overlord got scared, it said "you're all moving to Teegeeack, that planet with air," So I whistled to a DC8 and when it came near, it had no propellers just rockets in the rear! If anything I could say the brainwashing movie was rare, but I thought "nah, forget it" when trapped by Ghostbusters gear. I pulled up to the planet about 7 or 8 million years ago, and yelled to Xenu "Yo, ho, Imprison you later." I looked at my Thetans, we were finally there, to haunt us some primates with little body hair.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
May 30 2009 18:41 GMT
#83
Oh shit!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 18:55:59
May 30 2009 18:55 GMT
#84
fuck now im stuck on ency dramatica. budd dwyer ftw
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
May 30 2009 19:23 GMT
#85
The issue here is that the CoS has been shown many times to go to great lengths to propagate good PR about itself, and to repress any negative opinion on itself. This ban isn't going to solve the issue, but if nothing else, Wikipedia is calling them on it, and saying that they're not going to let it happen.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 30 2009 19:25 GMT
#86
omfg lol
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
May 30 2009 19:31 GMT
#87
The problem with Scientology isn't that its a religion, but that it bears all the marks of an organized fraud. Kinda like a lot of other cults.

A lot of disrespect in this thread for religions such as Hinduism/Christianity/Islam, but lumping them in with Scientology just shows that you have no nuanced understanding of religion.
I will eat you alive
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 30 2009 19:34 GMT
#88
On May 31 2009 04:31 FieryBalrog wrote:
The problem with Scientology isn't that its a religion, but that it bears all the marks of an organized fraud. Kinda like a lot of other cults.

A lot of disrespect in this thread for religions such as Hinduism/Christianity/Islam, but lumping them in with Scientology just shows that you have no nuanced understanding of religion.



yea scientology is the ultimate cult fraud pyramid scheme bullshit ever. To gain enlightenment you dish out more cash and disclose dark secrets or some shit. And if you ever try to leave the cult then they will basicially just blackmail you.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
May 30 2009 19:52 GMT
#89
On May 30 2009 14:45 Carnac wrote:
Scientology shouldnt even be legal in the 1st place

Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 21:49:44
May 30 2009 21:45 GMT
#90
On May 31 2009 03:19 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 14:39 cUrsOr wrote:
they should do the same thing to corporations.
like Coke and DoW and Monsanto who edit shit on there to let everyone know how safe their products are.

i do hope they take this a little further.

ty good post.



QFT, Monsanto is fucking epitome of corporate evil. They got their hands in everything too, I was sad to find out a few months ago that even NPR is 'supported' by Monsanto.

PS- 4chan and Anonymous are probably lulz'in all over the place.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Scientology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLcDn1DCOOo

Day[9] Will appreciate this one:

thrown into one little volcano and my Overlord got scared, it said "you're all moving to Teegeeack, that planet with air," So I whistled to a DC8 and when it came near, it had no propellers just rockets in the rear! If anything I could say the brainwashing movie was rare, but I thought "nah, forget it" when trapped by Ghostbusters gear. I pulled up to the planet about 7 or 8 million years ago, and yelled to Xenu "Yo, ho, Imprison you later." I looked at my Thetans, we were finally there, to haunt us some primates with little body hair.

When I saw that I thought that it would be a full video of scientology lemmings goodness

They should have taken some lemming level were you had to blow them up to get through walls or the one where you have to create blockers which you later have to blow up to win etc.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
May 30 2009 23:22 GMT
#91
it's kind of sickening hearing people who follow a religion bash Scientology. i want to point out how silly they sound but then they'll get so offended and won't want to be my friend anymore =/

the topic of religion is so untouchable...
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
May 30 2009 23:41 GMT
#92
On May 31 2009 08:22 eMbrace wrote:
it's kind of sickening hearing people who follow a religion bash Scientology. i want to point out how silly they sound but then they'll get so offended and won't want to be my friend anymore =/

the topic of religion is so untouchable...



cults are different from religions. But from the viewpoint of an agnostic or athiest they are both equally ridiculous. But for the most part cults involve paying money as gaining something in the cult. Religions just ask for donations, you don't have to give to be a christian but they do sort of put a stigma/guilt trip on you if you dont.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 23:58:34
May 30 2009 23:47 GMT
#93
On May 30 2009 14:47 EvilTeletubby wrote:
I think it's generally accepted that being a scientologist naturally excludes them from being intelligent and contributing citizens...


Anyone can be brainwashed; intelligence isn't a factor. It's all about when and how you undergo their conditioning.

Hate the organization; pity/help the people caught up in it.

On May 31 2009 08:22 eMbrace wrote:
it's kind of sickening hearing people who follow a religion bash Scientology. i want to point out how silly they sound but then they'll get so offended and won't want to be my friend anymore =/

the topic of religion is so untouchable...


There is a big difference.

Normal religions use a degree of conditioning and ritual presentation as part of their mythos. This helps promote the faith.

Scientology is very different. Ignoring even the financial cost of becoming a member of the "church" (no other religion has mandatory payment requirements. They may say you're supposed to tithe, but they don't throw you out for not doing so), the big problem with Scientology is how they indoctrinate members.

Normal religions give you a book. Maybe you undergo a ceremony or two (baptism, etc). Judaism may have it worst with the whole circumcision thing.

Scientology is on a whole other level. It is indoctrination, plain and simple. They take people, separate them from their families, psychologically break them down, and then rebuild them as "good Scientologists." They tell them that anyone who isn't in the church is to be shunned, that psychologists (people who are trained to help break conditioning and indoctrination) are the epitome of evil, and so on. It exists to propogate itself while giving nothing back to its members.

Most religions promote what we would consider socially acceptable behavior among its adherents (excepting those who've taken it too far, of course). They preach a moral code that is at least semi-reasonable and fairly compatible with human society (to varying degrees).

There is nothing in Scientology that is compatible with human society. It is a cult; a group of people who are brainwashed and segregated from their families and former friends.
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
May 30 2009 23:49 GMT
#94
On May 31 2009 08:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2009 08:22 eMbrace wrote:
it's kind of sickening hearing people who follow a religion bash Scientology. i want to point out how silly they sound but then they'll get so offended and won't want to be my friend anymore =/

the topic of religion is so untouchable...



cults are different from religions. But from the viewpoint of an agnostic or athiest they are both equally ridiculous. But for the most part cults involve paying money as gaining something in the cult. Religions just ask for donations, you don't have to give to be a christian but they do sort of put a stigma/guilt trip on you if you dont.


i admit scientology is more like a cult. most "Christians" really don't do anything special that identifies them as such.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
May 31 2009 00:12 GMT
#95
well mormons give a % of their income and they believe rediculous things that are very america-centric. Are they a cult or christians?
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
May 31 2009 01:30 GMT
#96
On May 31 2009 09:12 AttackZerg wrote:
well mormons give a % of their income and they believe rediculous things that are very america-centric. Are they a cult or christians?


In Germany and some Scandinavian countries, there is an automatic church tax, collected either independent of, or incorporated into the income tax.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-31 07:46:12
May 31 2009 01:58 GMT
#97
On May 31 2009 10:30 MoltkeWarding wrote: In Germany and some Scandinavian countries, there is an automatic church tax, collected either independent of, or incorporated into the income tax.


A little caveat so as not to give the wrong impression - at least in Germany the church tax is only paid by members of the respective churches. i.e people affiliated to a church, who are not member of a church tax-collecting denomination, do not have to pay it.

Like you say in Scandinavia it depends, in Iceland if you are not signed up with a religion it goes to their university system. I am not sure if Sweden has a way out of this and I think in Denmark and Norway it's obligatory one way or another.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Un4Seen
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia49 Posts
June 01 2009 08:57 GMT
#98
Theres more to it than you know, for one thing they are a very secret society not much is known about its teachings what is publically shown is not even a fragment of what they are aware of, for another thing the person who created it was a possibility in the illuminati and dont be suprised if they are not up to dark arts at the top levels of it.

One thing people must begin to realise is there is extra terrestial forces in the universe and there is groups who know about them some have sold themself for power and wealth to part take in agendas scientology does fit such a description. So dont asume your alone and think there wackos for believing in Aliens because it could very well be that extra terrestials have infuelenced it development with a agenda in mind that you may live to see.

Maybe you should study cultures warnings about 2012 and what it may hold...
world is a hologram think about it break it down it nothing but vibrations waves of energy frequecys...
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 01 2009 09:22 GMT
#99
On June 01 2009 17:57 Un4Seen wrote:
Theres more to it than you know, for one thing they are a very secret society not much is known about its teachings what is publically shown is not even a fragment of what they are aware of, for another thing the person who created it was a possibility in the illuminati and dont be suprised if they are not up to dark arts at the top levels of it.

One thing people must begin to realise is there is extra terrestial forces in the universe and there is groups who know about them some have sold themself for power and wealth to part take in agendas scientology does fit such a description. So dont asume your alone and think there wackos for believing in Aliens because it could very well be that extra terrestials have infuelenced it development with a agenda in mind that you may live to see.

Maybe you should study cultures warnings about 2012 and what it may hold...


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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32088 Posts
June 01 2009 16:33 GMT
#100
On May 31 2009 02:15 R3condite wrote:
Show nested quote +
But banning all Scientology IPs is pretty bad. I mean, other than being scientologists, these people could be perfeclty intelligent citizens capable of contributing to various wikipedia articles on other topics.

this may be true but if they were indeed that intelligent then they should have realized something like this would have happened and thus tried to spread the word of scientology in some other ways

for example u don't see us Christians getting banned for editing stuff about evolution or w.e


That's because they have conservapedia to make their own bullshit up.

Bad precedent. Members of other religions do the same shit and are just as fanatical.
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