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Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
May 31 2009 08:17 GMT
#421
Wait, so am I a misogynist pig for playing Zerg and supporting/exploiting their perversion of the female sex or am I sticking it to the man by beating down the male races?

(Also, everyone must recognize that this makes ZvZ the sexiest mu)
Gallimatias
Profile Joined May 2009
France95 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-31 21:36:16
May 31 2009 21:30 GMT
#422
On May 17 2009 05:06 damenmofa wrote:
lol great find ^^ especially her section covering gameplay comparing it to male (t/p) and female (z) orgasm when she actually doesnt know how to play the races is ridiculous...


Say what? Surely you must agree that Terran gameplay is indeed characterized by a consistent build up followed by a great release that is very reminiscent of the male orgasm whereas Zerg play a different more sketchy kind of game.

That analogy I thought was spot on. The earlier and to me contradictory remark about the Zergs supposed female economy however did make me think that she had no idea how the races are played (before she redeemed herself). Zergs nurturing their units? The Overmind, or anyone assuming his role, sacrifice units like no other. If anyone is nurturing and babysitting their units it would be a Terran. Treating every Siege Tank like a baby and every Marine like a potential rape victim.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-01 06:43:02
June 01 2009 06:41 GMT
#423
On June 01 2009 06:30 Gallimatias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 05:06 damenmofa wrote:
lol great find ^^ especially her section covering gameplay comparing it to male (t/p) and female (z) orgasm when she actually doesnt know how to play the races is ridiculous...


Say what? Surely you must agree that Terran gameplay is indeed characterized by a consistent build up followed by a great release that is very reminiscent of the male orgasm whereas Zerg play a different more sketchy kind of game.

That analogy I thought was spot on. The earlier and to me contradictory remark about the Zergs supposed female economy however did make me think that she had no idea how the races are played (before she redeemed herself). Zergs nurturing their units? The Overmind, or anyone assuming his role, sacrifice units like no other. If anyone is nurturing and babysitting their units it would be a Terran. Treating every Siege Tank like a baby and every Marine like a potential rape victim.



Exactly, I almost want to write a madlib of her paper and paint zerg as the dispensable, brutish, primitive, unintelligent MALES who are carelessly sacrificed like animals. Much like human MALES have been treated throughout human history, as very much disposable and expendable, each individual zerg unit is disposable and expendable. Their buildings look very phallic to me. I haven't read the whole thread, but the spore colony is clearly an uncircumsized penis and the evolution chamber and hydralisk are both mighty phallic looking. It's men who suffer the most from war, nations are built on the blood and bones of young men and boys. Far more men throughout human history have been killed in war than women. Similarly, in a game of starcraft, even when the zerg win, they almost ALWAYS suffer the most casualties. Therefore, starcraft encourages us as a society to view men as disposable, the last off the titanic, the first into the battle.

I really hate to go off on a tangent here about gender relations, but I'll leave you all with this. Feminists and gender egalitarians, and I make the distinctions because feminists are clearly not interested in equality, as that could not be achieved by empowering only one gender, often forget one immutable aspect of human nature. Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. Females have finite reproductive capacities, men are virtually unlimited. Therefore, men very indeed ARE disposable, our species could easily survive, grow, and prosper with far fewer males than females. Though this sounds very darwinian, remember just how much most of humanity is driven by animalistic instinct. It behooves us, from a purely evolutionary perspective, to preserve females, it doesn't hurt us to dispose of males. This is reflected in how our societies behave and it has been throughout human history. One needs only to point to the fact that males are far more frequently relegated to jobs and activities which endanger their lives than women, including military service.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
June 01 2009 07:48 GMT
#424
Women in this and many computer games are depicted as sexual objects, and nothing more. Simply put, women are much more than that. Women, men… we are people, humans… nothing more, nothing less. Just because some of us have breasts, and others penises, does not make either more of an object of sex, nor more an object of power.


Lol how old is this person?? Isn't it supposed to be penii, not penises??
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
June 01 2009 07:57 GMT
#425
On June 01 2009 16:48 Monoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
Women in this and many computer games are depicted as sexual objects, and nothing more. Simply put, women are much more than that. Women, men… we are people, humans… nothing more, nothing less. Just because some of us have breasts, and others penises, does not make either more of an object of sex, nor more an object of power.


Lol how old is this person?? Isn't it supposed to be penii, not penises??



....
In DotA you could
Un4Seen
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia49 Posts
June 01 2009 08:43 GMT
#426
On May 27 2009 03:35 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2009 02:29 no_comprender wrote:
movements like feminism are luxuries of the ability to influence our own environment, and feminists have the ability (you could also call it a right) to push for them, but they are changing a status quo which has had a huge effect on our development, women have taken submissive roles for many years in most civilized societies.feminists are pushing gender roles (a huge cornerstone of society and interaction) in an abruptly different direction with no assurance of success


Ok sorry I don't have time to answer to your entire post but this I want to respond to since I think it's essential.

Women haven't taken any roles, they have been given roles by men really. Since men have set the standards for acceptable behaviour for women, the women have pretty much been forced into submission. So I hope you don't think that women throughout history have chosen to be submissive, they are born into a pre-made gender role. Men are too, however since men have had much greater power than women historically speaking (and still today) they don't really complain now do they.

What do you mean "with no assurance of success". So you are saying it's dangerous to let women be equal and be in charge more? lol please. Think of all the shit man has started; wars and what not.
I don't really know what to say about this one, except that I think you're having too much bias against women, going into this discussion.



actually this sites says different...

http://www.sacredwarrior.org/?page_id=701
world is a hologram think about it break it down it nothing but vibrations waves of energy frequecys...
Un4Seen
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia49 Posts
June 01 2009 08:48 GMT
#427
But problems with employement did show up after women were giving more roles in career industry, you must admit the persons earlier reply about women no longer do there natural responsibilitys "they have gone against nature is correct".

I think that alot problems are not men but the women who infuelence there decisions, women are no angels so dont presume they are, they have went against there natures and thats why our world is so screwed because each generation isn't being taken care of as it should of been and isnt being taught in education either.

Nature always had it so roles would be played and going against nature is why the world is in state it is in now, it nothing do with equality it was everything to do with a balance.

world is a hologram think about it break it down it nothing but vibrations waves of energy frequecys...
redneck_mike
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States124 Posts
August 13 2009 02:00 GMT
#428
oh one more thing i forgot to mention - anybody notice how both of the additions to the terrans in brood war were FEMALE?
im the only person i know of to overuse scouts
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
August 13 2009 02:17 GMT
#429
o.o hi, your new to teamliquid i presume , well one of the rules here is dont really bump old threads unless you got something really big to contribute because all it does is push the more recent things down.

And yea thats is true maybe the lady made that report when only sc original came out?
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
August 13 2009 02:42 GMT
#430
... this thread deserved bumping
i missed it when it first came out

but seriously... wtf?
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redneck_mike
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States124 Posts
August 13 2009 03:58 GMT
#431
On August 13 2009 11:17 ShmotZ wrote:
o.o hi, your new to teamliquid i presume , well one of the rules here is dont really bump old threads unless you got something really big to contribute because all it does is push the more recent things down.

And yea thats is true maybe the lady made that report when only sc original came out?


she made references to medics and valkyries.

and warcraft 3, which came out 4 years after BW
im the only person i know of to overuse scouts
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 04:29:37
August 13 2009 04:24 GMT
#432
LOL. Women's rights activists.
Who would have though that women are what the're stereotyped to be unless some crazy fool capitalizes on it? Even more, who would have thought that Starcraft engenders female steriotism unless a dumbass crazy fool points it out?

(Also, everyone must recognize that this makes ZvZ the sexiest mu)

ZvZ is my favorite.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 13 2009 04:41 GMT
#433
This was the first over-the-top thread I had read after joining TeamLiquid.

The arguments presented are too good.
You are now breathing manually.
potchip
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia260 Posts
August 13 2009 05:05 GMT
#434
Why would a supposedly feminist person attribute 'reproduction' based economy to female is beyond me. I mean...isn't that their whole point that women are not just reproduction machines?
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 13 2009 05:09 GMT
#435
On June 01 2009 16:48 Monoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
Women in this and many computer games are depicted as sexual objects, and nothing more. Simply put, women are much more than that. Women, men… we are people, humans… nothing more, nothing less. Just because some of us have breasts, and others penises, does not make either more of an object of sex, nor more an object of power.


Lol how old is this person?? Isn't it supposed to be penii, not penises??

*facepalm*
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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
August 13 2009 06:32 GMT
#436
I want to PvZ her using mass mind control.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 10:57:49
August 13 2009 10:41 GMT
#437
and reavers are fat, slow and limp with exploding balls.

and regarding ZvZ..... what does that make Jaedong @_@?

EDIT: In defense for the woman, just because you write ONE article and troll through a feminist lens doesn't mean we all need to email her as angry starcraft nerds "wtf j00 n00b u n33d to get laid and gtfo back to the kitchen bitch." That type of reply does to us exactly what this article did for her.
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Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
August 13 2009 11:04 GMT
#438
On August 13 2009 11:42 redtooth wrote:
... this thread deserved bumping
i missed it when it first came out

but seriously... wtf?


+1

i hadnt lived till this thread came along.
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 13 2009 12:11 GMT
#439
dont know how people can do something like that XD
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 13 2009 12:18 GMT
#440
Crazy feminists..

Starcraft is a game for cool guys, not sexists.
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