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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 13 2009 12:40 GMT
#441
let's call ZvZ "girl on girl" from now on

except with jaedong. just like it was JvZ, now it's "jaedong on girl"
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
August 13 2009 12:49 GMT
#442
Even though her zerg argument is completely retarded, the unit voices and what they say really are gender biased and do serve to sexualize women. There is a clear sense of male and female difference in the unit speeches that caters to the male audience when you click on the units.
For instance.. the valkyrie says "I have ways of blowing things.. up" and also "you're being very naughty." The medic and kerrigan also say some similar type things that make them into sexual play things.
This really isn't a surprise though considering the market. Male gamers outnumber females ones 10 to 1, so there's bound to be some fanservice for the guys. Blizzard obviously knows this and makes all their female units sexy and extra-bangable to capitalize on all the horny single gamers.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 13 2009 13:44 GMT
#443
ilovelosses is right

Everyone saying "this is retarded" and nothing more, should perhaps use their assumed brain capacity just a tiny bit more
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
August 13 2009 14:24 GMT
#444
That's all fine, til you get into the whacky theory of vaginal canals and zerg as oppressed women and all that horseshit.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Afasia
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland70 Posts
August 13 2009 14:30 GMT
#445
quit yapping. These days everything is about sex or money. usually both. She is clearly right.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 13 2009 14:35 GMT
#446
On August 13 2009 21:49 ilovelosses wrote:
Even though her zerg argument is completely retarded, the unit voices and what they say really are gender biased and do serve to sexualize women. There is a clear sense of male and female difference in the unit speeches that caters to the male audience when you click on the units.
For instance.. the valkyrie says "I have ways of blowing things.. up" and also "you're being very naughty." The medic and kerrigan also say some similar type things that make them into sexual play things.
This really isn't a surprise though considering the market. Male gamers outnumber females ones 10 to 1, so there's bound to be some fanservice for the guys. Blizzard obviously knows this and makes all their female units sexy and extra-bangable to capitalize on all the horny single gamers.


Yah but those women are just playing the roles. They are technically the stereotypical army sass-mouthers, who aren't afraid to say what they want. Many of these women arrived as prisoners too, don't forget.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom204 Posts
August 13 2009 14:36 GMT
#447
just read this thread, but wft?

On May 17 2009 21:50 no_comprender wrote:
back in the day people born with congenital defects or a crap immune system died instead of burdening other organisms with their disproportionate consumption, it makes me uncomfortable about the future. how long do we expend more and more resources protecting the rights of the individual without considering the health of the species and society as a whole?


listen you prick, you wouldnt be saying that if your child was born with such a defact would you?
Neos
Profile Joined June 2009
United States400 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 15:44:39
August 13 2009 14:38 GMT
#448
On May 17 2009 04:36 vicviper wrote:
Ms. Kelly Alerenson, the author of this article, tries to argue that Zerg runs on a "female" economy, which relies on reproduction, and that Zerg buildings look convincingly gynic. She analyzed further that Zerg gameplay is like the development of an orgasm.

Damn pre-mature 5-pools.

EDIT: Zerg isn't feminate, ever look at an evo chamber closely?
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
August 13 2009 14:47 GMT
#449
If I wasn't making myself clear, I actually do think her argument on zerg representing the unknowable evil woman to be BS, but it's still true that Blizzard games do tend to be sexist. They certainly cater to males and present females with a sense of eroticism.
Makes me remember some of those ums games like "duke has sex with kerrigan" and all those strip the xxx. Not saying these maps have anything to do with Blizzard directly, more with the consumers, but these types of games appearing are definitely nurtured by the male dominated mindset, which has been facilitated by Blizzard.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 13 2009 14:55 GMT
#450
lol the chick who wrote that article was dumped by her boyfriend who happened to choose Starcraft over her.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 15:01:59
August 13 2009 14:58 GMT
#451
On May 19 2009 05:48 VIB wrote:
I'm 100% sure you guys got totally trolled by that article. That girl is probably reading this thread and laughing her ass off.


vicviper Canada. May 17 2009 04:36. Posts 8



This thread made my day :D ok back to reading the article

edit: are there really people here who took seriously? Seriously?
This is masterpiece troll lol, how it happened I even saw philosophic disputes (Moltkeee rofl)?
wwww
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 13 2009 15:00 GMT
#452
On August 13 2009 23:55 nayumi wrote:
lol the chick who wrote that article was dumped by her boyfriend who happened to choose Starcraft over her.


no
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
DeiGn
Profile Joined July 2009
France7 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 15:12:22
August 13 2009 15:07 GMT
#453
So you think that games dedicated to man are nurtured by the male mindset, the same way The Sims and Barbie are nurtured by girls mindset...good point...

And yes, the game in itself (game of war+RTS) was targetting primarly a male audience, twhy did they choose to release a strategical game of war is a more interisting question though...

Article is complete shit btw, the Sigmund Freud theory which basically interprets every hole as a symbolic vagina and every proeminent thing as a phallus has been debunked decennies ago by the modern psychologists.
I'm pretty sure it isn't a troll, probably not everything was meant to be taken litteraly though, but a lot is imo pretentious and sincere non-sensical garbage.

beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 15:16:39
August 13 2009 15:10 GMT
#454
xD ohmagad

I can't imagine feminist who would go that far
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  • Medic- Speaking Seductively
    "Where does it hurt?"
    "I've already checked you out commander."
    "You want another physical?"
    "Turn your head and cough."
    "Ready for you sponge bath."
  • Vulture
    "I don't have time to fuck around."
  • Siege Tank
    "Yes Sir."
    "Orders Sir."
    (While these last two are not sexual, they give the obvious implication that the game player must be male.)
  • Goliath
    "Checklist completed…. SoB."
    (Again, not only being a sexually derogatory statement, this implies that only males will be empowered; leading the force.)
  • Valkyrie- In an overly sexualized Russian accent.
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    "I have ways of blowing things…. Up."
    "You're being very naughty."
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  • Infested Kerrigan
    "Don't think that I need You!"
  • Infested Duran
    "I think you're getting too familiar."
    "I don't think we've met."


and there is still wall of text above

I'm going to mail her picture of me holding sign saying "Woman! You made my day! Please write more like that"
I need to think what should I ask her in mail to get response xd
wwww
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 13 2009 15:15 GMT
#455
I wonder what we should call a sunken rush in ZvZ if they refer to the hatchery as a reproductive organ who produces larvae
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
August 13 2009 15:17 GMT
#456
Exception that proves the rule duh :D
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DrLefTy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States36 Posts
August 13 2009 15:33 GMT
#457
So zerg is the feminine race, and our gameplay is that of an orgasm?

I think I was just accused of being a transvestite
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
August 13 2009 15:52 GMT
#458
IMO it's sexist that the queen sucks so bad.
Afasia
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland70 Posts
August 13 2009 15:54 GMT
#459
Actually to be on topic. and try to actually contribute something I never liked how blizzard never cared for they amount of sex they try to sell their games with. Thread has mentioned several times already that indeed the units in SC talk in such ways that one could see the females being oppressed.

Now we have to remember though where we live and how everything connects up. Any other product or game out there is doing just the same thing. In a sense we should change the world and what people strive towards to fix this. Just look at WoW female models. they are quite as far-removed from reality as you can get but hardly noone questions them.

Dunno, sex sells. go with it. I for one sure dont mind seeing barely clothed girls in my vidya.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be.
Aznleeman
Profile Joined November 2007
United States208 Posts
August 13 2009 15:55 GMT
#460
I'm glad I play Protoss: where there are no distinctive female units. (Well, in SC2 maybe the Mothership...) But seriously, I do believe this person is just an epic troll who probably huddles in the sewers of 4chan all day. Or they're just that crazy as to think Blizzard's video games are misogynistic and that all their employees are evil bastards trying to oppress women.

Still, this article made me laugh. I'm going to start calling Nydus Canals "Vaginal Canals." Oh, and whenever someone 4/5 pools, it's going to be an "Orgasm rush."
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