On August 14 2009 00:33 DrLefTy wrote: So zerg is the feminine race, and our gameplay is that of an orgasm?
I think I was just accused of being a transvestite
Yea Zerg are like... hybrids. Drones can be seen as semen and creep as womb...? zomg
On August 14 2009 00:55 Aznleeman wrote: I'm glad I play Protoss: where there are no distinctive female units. (Well, in SC2 maybe the Mothership...) But seriously, I do believe this person is just an epic troll who probably huddles in the sewers of 4chan all day. Or they're just that crazy as to think Blizzard's video games are misogynistic and that all their employees are evil bastards trying to oppress women.
Still, this article made me laugh. I'm going to start calling Nydus Canals "Vaginal Canals." Oh, and whenever someone 4/5 pools, it's going to be an "Orgasm rush."
You missed that part :D
"The Protoss and Terrans, follow the male sexuality of building up, and up, and up, until finally it is the long awaited moment, while the Zerg build up, and then drop some, then build more… and more… and more… and more, and once dropped it may re-build up again, much sooner than it's male counterpart. "
I agree this may be 4channer... maybe I won't mail any photo >.> There are typos that seem to me as mistakes done during rofls
On August 13 2009 22:44 Foucault wrote: ilovelosses is right
Everyone saying "this is retarded" and nothing more, should perhaps use their assumed brain capacity just a tiny bit more
OK. I do think that "this is retarded" but I will say sth more.
Starcraft is played by men. It was created for men. Its obvious that everything is for men's point of view - just because of the target of this game. Zerg has "female features" and its "unknown" because 15 yo male teenagers dont know much about women. Its like saying: "Romantic comedies should be made more for men - with blood and guns. Its sexism that there is no action in those movies".
On August 14 2009 00:55 Aznleeman wrote: I'm glad I play Protoss: where there are no distinctive female units. (Well, in SC2 maybe the Mothership...) But seriously, I do believe this person is just an epic troll who probably huddles in the sewers of 4chan all day. Or they're just that crazy as to think Blizzard's video games are misogynistic and that all their employees are evil bastards trying to oppress women.
Still, this article made me laugh. I'm going to start calling Nydus Canals "Vaginal Canals." Oh, and whenever someone 4/5 pools, it's going to be an "Orgasm rush."
You missed that part :D
"The Protoss and Terrans, follow the male sexuality of building up, and up, and up, until finally it is the long awaited moment, while the Zerg build up, and then drop some, then build more… and more… and more… and more, and once dropped it may re-build up again, much sooner than it's male counterpart. "
I agree this may be 4channer... maybe I won't mail any photo >.>
Whoever made that article just fails to think on any other way. If you look it like that. how many things in life start as a small and then keep growing up until a they are at said point. But 24 pages tells us that s/he was a good troll or we just like our little game bit too much.
On August 14 2009 00:33 DrLefTy wrote: So zerg is the feminine race, and our gameplay is that of an orgasm?
I think I was just accused of being a transvestite
Yea Zerg are like... hybrids. Drones can be seen as semen and creep as womb...? zomg
On August 14 2009 00:55 Aznleeman wrote: I'm glad I play Protoss: where there are no distinctive female units. (Well, in SC2 maybe the Mothership...) But seriously, I do believe this person is just an epic troll who probably huddles in the sewers of 4chan all day. Or they're just that crazy as to think Blizzard's video games are misogynistic and that all their employees are evil bastards trying to oppress women.
Still, this article made me laugh. I'm going to start calling Nydus Canals "Vaginal Canals." Oh, and whenever someone 4/5 pools, it's going to be an "Orgasm rush."
You missed that part :D
"The Protoss and Terrans, follow the male sexuality of building up, and up, and up, until finally it is the long awaited moment, while the Zerg build up, and then drop some, then build more… and more… and more… and more, and once dropped it may re-build up again, much sooner than it's male counterpart. "
I agree this may be 4channer... maybe I won't mail any photo >.>
Whoever made that article just fails to think on any other way. If you look it like that. how many things in life start as a small and then keep growing up until a they are at said point.
1. A woman wins in the story. 2. There are only 2 prominent zerg figures in the game that are either male or female. The female one is higher in power. 3. Unless you count the QUEEN. 4. Last mission of BW: Kerrigan > Mengsk + Raynor + Artanis + Dugalle + Zeratul. 5. If Zerg are female, then it shows females are stronger as all the heroes + infested terrans are stronger in Zerg form. Tell me if I missed anything.
And if zerg are female, how come every time I draw a greater spire it looks like a cock?
On August 14 2009 03:04 redneck_mike wrote: Okay: Ima do a complete list this time:
1. A woman wins in the story. 2. There are only 2 prominent zerg figures in the game that are either male or female. The female one is higher in power. 3. Unless you count the QUEEN.
4. Last mission of BW: Kerrigan > Mengsk + Raynor + Artanis + Dugalle + Zeratul. 5. If Zerg are female, then it shows females are stronger as all the heroes + infested terrans are stronger in Zerg form. Tell me if I missed anything.
And if zerg are female, how come every time I draw a greater spire it looks like a cock?
Well imho this is just some fat lady and/or frigid who needs a man pronto. There will always be things like this on some part of the web. This doesn't even comes close to hurt my feelings as a man or to touch me on any other level.
Just remember that hell broke lose about Mass Effect sex scene(s). I mean what sex? This is little off topic but Im trying to show that ppl will create issues when there isn't one just to create some self exposure or w/e.
The mission statement of the site says "Provoke dialog and debate about culture, society, politics, and issues " so...half successful I guess...other half resulted in a bunch of good humor lol..especially the science vessel balls, carrier penis, and ultralisk den vagina....
But in all seriousness, the article contains so many fallacies with it's 'evidence' that her argument is thrown out the window. I was going to list them but I'm sleepy.
She insults all women...."...the Zerg...The icky bugs" then..."...the Zerg are women". tsk tsk. The nurture part was a load of crap...definition: to feed, educate, train, help grow develop or cultivate. I never knew we had a tomodachi pet in Zerg form. I also like how she puts Terran and Protoss buildings as tall, rigid, sharp, etc but fails to mention that with the Zerg: Spire, tall Hive 'arms',
All those larvae....and no males to help create them? Zerg must be asexual then, with both reproductive organs, therefore neither male nor female....but BOTH! Oh noe!
...I never knew my girlfriend's vagina could teleport my penis...lord knows where "... it may emerge at the other end..."...lmao...
Finally...(sorry for the long post), if Zerg truly are the "reproductive economy"...Obama should just tell all the women in the U.S. to start breeding like..rabbits--oops! I mean...breeding like Zergs!
I honestly can't imagine hating myself enough to have to sit down and write out an article like this and post it on the web...but I do hate myself enough to read the entire article and I must say it was awful
Who would have thought that a crappy article I wrote poorly seven years ago would make for such a fun Monday!
In short, I got about 150 e-mails saying "OMFGN3WBTITSORGTFOKIKIKI", About 20 e-mails thanking me for my efforts, Ten more asking me if it was ok to repost it elsewhere. About five (six to be exact) asking me if I need laid, and if so if I'd like their numbers. ... two of which included cock-pics (Doubtfully from the sender themselves, but who knows). A few from feminists praising or decrying what I said, And one from a nice young girl who told me I was an inspiration. As for taking so long to respond to anything, That's not an e-mail address that I use any more, I was just curious and bored at work today and thought I'd see if anyone still used it for anything.
I don't really have time to respond to the multitude of good and bad points made in the last 24 pages, but I'll say a word or two:
Firstly, yeah, that article was pretty poorly written. I wrote it quickly to try to fit into a deadline, and VP picked it up and printed it. It wasn't my best work (by far), and as many of you pointed out, it had some definite problems. But hey, I was a Sophomore in college and I spent too much time playing SC and not enough time making my argument. If I'd known it would have reached such popularity a quarter of my life later, I might have worked harder on it. :-D
The important part is that the article was intended to spark discussion, which, seven years later, it did. I probably don't even agree with everything that I said in it, but I'm glad to see communities latching onto it and getting into interesting and important discussions due to it.
The "I'd smash Patriarchy" pic was hilarious to see on the first page of this discussion, as the editor of VP used to use it all the time. Nice bit of nostalgia there.
As was pointed out by some of the people who actually read the article, The point of this piece wasn't to attack Starcraft, or Blizzard for that matter, The purpose was to point out how negative gender stereotypes foment in our society and get expressed through our entertainment which thereby perpetuates those stereotypes. It's problematic, and I admit that the article failed hard at pointing out any good 'fixes' to the problem. But hey, I was young and naive. It doesn't really matter if the good folks at Blizzard knew that they were doing it, and it doesn't really matter if the players realize that it's happening, what matters is *if* it actually effects the way that people (of whatever gender) interact with each other in a negative way. And if it does, then it is something that needs to be looked at critically and fixed. This is true not only of Blizzard games, but of all gaming, and in fact of every aspect of our day to day lives. "The personal is political." We can't pretend that what we do day in and day out doesn't effect the people around us, and doesn't effect the world. The 76% pay discrepancy is just one fine example. The outcry of "TL;DL, gunna go fap now" is another fine one, As is my inbox full of "Fucking Feminist, get back in the Kitchun" And the insinuation that since I pointed out inequality I must be ugly, fat, recently dumped by a man, a transvestite, a lesbian, and I must have an insect fetish.
Rightly pointed out, so are "chick flicks". They're demeaning and degrading to real people who engage in real relationships.
I found it particularly interesting that the poll posted within the forum showed 36% (when I looked) of people thought that playing zerg did make them think that they represented women.
I took 12 pages of notes that I might some day turn into a proper response, But that day is not today.
Thank you all for your interest, My article provoked discussion on an important topic. It also provided me with a day full of laughter.
(Props to the person who pointed out the irony of mentioning Josie in the first line, in all this time, you're the first person to point out the hilarity of that. It was, of course, intentional.)
To the people who posited that it was an 'epic troll', You're somewhat right, and somewhat wrong. The point was to be over-the-top, To claim too much for the sake of provoking discussion... As others have pointed out, I really sucked at writing and critical theory then, So I failed pretty hard.
But hey, it made a discussion happen that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
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