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F[5]aLaMaT
Profile Joined May 2009
United States71 Posts
May 14 2009 18:57 GMT
#21
this is kinda retarded. there are so many people whining to the EC nowadays over monopolies and it seems they EC is siding with the majority of whiners.
Legend
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 14 2009 19:08 GMT
#22
On May 14 2009 10:53 dybydx wrote:
while intel has been a bad boy, AMD isnt doing so hot lately largely because of its own stupidity. their purchase of ATI didnt time well with the economic slow down.

my friend works at AMD is worried that the company may go down or hand out pink slips.

QFT, AMD's troubles recently is largely due to its own issues (missing out on mobile computing much?). Intel just has such excellent economy of scale among all other things that its been smacking opponents silly for over a decade.
Dariush
Profile Joined April 2007
Romania330 Posts
May 14 2009 19:58 GMT
#23
On May 13 2009 19:55 haduken wrote:
Intel have such strong ties in distributor channels that i don't see how this will change anything.
What exactly have Intel done to deserve this? Their products are just ... superior. Unlike microsoft who abuse the channel relationships, intel is actually worthy of their dominance.


AMD had the superior product in the P4 era...that's the period intel was most dirty
itzme_petey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1400 Posts
May 14 2009 21:35 GMT
#24
Im just waiting until AMd goes out of business, they are not viable any longer. I live in the austin, texas area and they have a massive company site there. Im in the market for a liquidated coach and executive chair.
"Last night, I played a game.. as I recall it was a strategy game.. Peeked around and what did I see, a girl playing starcraft better than me.. and I jizzed in my pants.."
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 22:03:31
May 14 2009 22:02 GMT
#25
On May 13 2009 19:40 s.Q.uelched wrote:
Intel Fined Record $1.45 Billion in Antitrust Case

By JAMES KANTER
Published: May 13, 2009

BRUSSELS — The European Commission on Wednesday fined Intel a record €1.06 billion ($1.44 billion) for abusing its dominance in the market for computer chips to exclude Advanced Micro Devices, which is Intel’s only serious rival.

The E.U. competition commissioner, Neelie Kroes, said the penalty against Intel, the world’s largest chip maker, was justified because the company had skewed competition and robbed consumers of choice.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/business/global/14compete.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=technology


for anyone that doesn't know what abusing its dominance means, it is the European version of Monopoly. Why they don't use the word instead of the stupid phrase is retarded and baffling.

And I heard on NPR that the specific charges were that it was paying companies/distributors of computers to delay releases of competitors chips/systems among other things.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 14 2009 22:03 GMT
#26
The EU fining American corporations for monopoly? No way.
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anTi_
Profile Joined October 2008
United States499 Posts
May 14 2009 22:07 GMT
#27
I still use a 2500+, plays all the games I want to play on the PC. When it comes time for an upgrade I will buy AMD again.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44071 Posts
May 14 2009 22:28 GMT
#28
When a bright kid comes up with a revolutionary idea he needs to be able to start a company and get the ball rolling. That is the core idea that capitalism is based on. That the better solution to the problem of meeting the needs of consumers should be able to compete on an even footing and win by merit alone. By abusing their position Intel slowed the progress of humanity in order to prolong a stagnant status quo for profit.
Sure it's not all that important in the grand scheme of things but it's the principle of the thing. They deserve to be fined.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 14 2009 22:28 GMT
#29
So with a tl;dr on the article, what exactly did intel do?
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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
May 14 2009 23:59 GMT
#30
On May 13 2009 19:55 haduken wrote:
Intel have such strong ties in distributor channels that i don't see how this will change anything.
What exactly have Intel done to deserve this? Their products are just ... superior. Unlike microsoft who abuse the channel relationships, intel is actually worthy of their dominance.


this
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 15 2009 00:02 GMT
#31
Even if they are worthy of their dominance, and continue to pump out high qualidty products, a monopoly still is a bad thing. If they totally control the market then they get to set prices at whatever they want.
Xela
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada203 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 03:06:36
May 15 2009 03:05 GMT
#32
On May 15 2009 09:02 travis wrote:
Even if they are worthy of their dominance, and continue to pump out high qualidty products, a monopoly still is a bad thing. If they totally control the market then they get to set prices at whatever they want.

/agree

I don't know much about economy but I do know that a monopoly is the worst thing possible for the consumers in the long term. Even if Intel has better products, a monopoly will make them raise their price and lower the quality to make even more money, and small business trying to develop a new product would have no chance at all and eventually progress will completely stop for processors.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 03:16:12
May 15 2009 03:15 GMT
#33
On May 15 2009 12:05 Xela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 09:02 travis wrote:
Even if they are worthy of their dominance, and continue to pump out high qualidty products, a monopoly still is a bad thing. If they totally control the market then they get to set prices at whatever they want.

/agree

I don't know much about economy but I do know that a monopoly is the worst thing possible for the consumers in the long term. Even if Intel has better products, a monopoly will make them raise their price and lower the quality to make even more money, and small business trying to develop a new product would have no chance at all and eventually progress will completely stop for processors.

On May 15 2009 08:59 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2009 19:55 haduken wrote:
Intel have such strong ties in distributor channels that i don't see how this will change anything.
What exactly have Intel done to deserve this? Their products are just ... superior. Unlike microsoft who abuse the channel relationships, intel is actually worthy of their dominance.


this

haduken and savio spoke truly.

We are hardly looking at the nightmare scenario of a monopoly here, and even if we will look at one, it won't be because of Intel's business practices, it'll be due to an unrevised patent policy.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 15 2009 03:20 GMT
#34
raped but I hope they still sponsor gomtv
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
May 15 2009 03:31 GMT
#35
Intel is surperior. People should realize that regardless of intel's intentions of monopoly or not, they will still pwn AMD really badly.

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and wow my core i7 is pwnage /brag
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
May 15 2009 03:37 GMT
#36
lol this is BS. I understand MS concerns but come on AMD just sucks.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
May 15 2009 03:40 GMT
#37
On May 15 2009 12:31 WindCalibur wrote:
Intel is surperior. People should realize that regardless of intel's intentions of monopoly or not, they will still pwn AMD really badly.

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and wow my core i7 is pwnage /brag


regardless of this being the current case, if intel has no competition the can sit down for the next 10 years on their core i7 and not develop a single processor, simply muscling every other company out of business.

they deserve the fine.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
May 15 2009 03:43 GMT
#38
i still think Intel should shove the fine into the EU ass.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 15 2009 03:59 GMT
#39
On May 15 2009 12:40 Etherone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 12:31 WindCalibur wrote:
Intel is surperior. People should realize that regardless of intel's intentions of monopoly or not, they will still pwn AMD really badly.

+ Show Spoiler +
and wow my core i7 is pwnage /brag


regardless of this being the current case, if intel has no competition the can sit down for the next 10 years on their core i7 and not develop a single processor, simply muscling every other company out of business.

they deserve the fine.

If Intel tries to sit for 10 years on core i7, even their economy of scale and awesome distributor channels won't save them. People are exaggerating the effects of a monopoly.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
May 15 2009 06:37 GMT
#40
The should have had a bigger fine than that!
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