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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 01 2009 17:56 GMT
#81
On March 02 2009 02:46 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
Your DEA is busy doing cocaine, opium and heroin business. For your information that is the product that comes mostly from Afghanistan. You can guess how the drug industry has grown over there since the anti terrorist guys stepped in. Wohoo

Estonia fucking sucks.
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
March 01 2009 18:08 GMT
#82
On March 01 2009 16:27 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 12:19 Kennelie wrote:
2004 called and asked what you doing with its footage...


i would guess 2001 was calling..


Are you saying that waiting 8 years to post a picture is... unreasonable?

The relief is mesmerizing!
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
March 01 2009 18:29 GMT
#83
Jibba:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium

"After regularly producing 70% of the world's opium, Afghanistan decreased production to 74 tons per year under a ban by the Taliban in 2000, a move which cut production by 94 per cent. A year later, after American and British troops invaded Afghanistan, removed the Taliban and installed the interim government, the land under cultivation leapt back to 285 square miles, with Afghanistan supplanting Burma to become the world's largest opium producer once more. Opium production in that country has increased rapidly since, reaching an all-time high in 2006. According to DEA statistics, Afghanistan's production of oven-dried opium increased to 1,278 tons in 2002, more than doubled by 2003, and nearly doubled again during 2004"

In 2006 its 82% of world supply. In 2009 its how much?
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
March 01 2009 18:34 GMT
#84
On March 02 2009 03:29 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
Jibba:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium

"After regularly producing 70% of the world's opium, Afghanistan decreased production to 74 tons per year under a ban by the Taliban in 2000, a move which cut production by 94 per cent. A year later, after American and British troops invaded Afghanistan, removed the Taliban and installed the interim government, the land under cultivation leapt back to 285 square miles, with Afghanistan supplanting Burma to become the world's largest opium producer once more. Opium production in that country has increased rapidly since, reaching an all-time high in 2006. According to DEA statistics, Afghanistan's production of oven-dried opium increased to 1,278 tons in 2002, more than doubled by 2003, and nearly doubled again during 2004"

In 2006 its 82% of world supply. In 2009 its how much?

Do you have something against Afghanistan?
No no no no its not mine!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 01 2009 18:42 GMT
#85
On March 02 2009 03:29 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
Jibba:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium

"After regularly producing 70% of the world's opium, Afghanistan decreased production to 74 tons per year under a ban by the Taliban in 2000, a move which cut production by 94 per cent. A year later, after American and British troops invaded Afghanistan, removed the Taliban and installed the interim government, the land under cultivation leapt back to 285 square miles, with Afghanistan supplanting Burma to become the world's largest opium producer once more. Opium production in that country has increased rapidly since, reaching an all-time high in 2006. According to DEA statistics, Afghanistan's production of oven-dried opium increased to 1,278 tons in 2002, more than doubled by 2003, and nearly doubled again during 2004"

In 2006 its 82% of world supply. In 2009 its how much?

There's no citation on most of that, and it provides absolutely zero form of causation. The obvious correlation is that the Taliban used oppressive means to ban production (for 1 year out of 20+ of their reign), and by removing that oppressive force, it was allowed to grow again. It still has no relevance to 99% of what your first post said.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 01 2009 18:42 GMT
#86
Nice, if it gets fully legalized that'll be pretty cool.
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
March 01 2009 19:20 GMT
#87
On March 01 2009 10:13 exeprime wrote:
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On March 01 2009 08:07 Ace wrote:
Tobacco is not a drug though - the comparison isn't so easy.


Actually tobacco has one of the highest addiction rates of any drugs, much higher than weed, which you can hardly even call addictive at all... Also, due to the fact that tobacco smokers generally smoke much more than pot-heads (think one pack a day vs. a joint / day), it turns out tobacco is also more dangerous for people's health.

But i agree, tobacco isn't a drug. Neither is weed. They're plants.


semantics, plants secrete hormones.
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 01 2009 19:22 GMT
#88
On March 01 2009 08:07 Ace wrote:
Tobacco is not a drug though - the comparison isn't so easy.


On March 01 2009 10:13 exeprime wrote:But i agree, tobacco isn't a drug. Neither is weed. They're plants.


Really? I mean, c'mon, really? All you have to do is use google or do any minimal amounts of research to show how stupid it is to claim that tobacco isn't a drug, and that something being a plant somehow makes it not a drug.
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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 19:37:56
March 01 2009 19:33 GMT
#89
I dont really get why ppl are so hyped about medicinal marijuana being legal. I mean isnt the only thing its gonna be used for if you have some pain with your eyes, and stuff like that? Imo I dont think it's gonna be very easy to get, or even find someone who can get it for you.

Also I never understood ppl, who says weed doesnt fuck ppl up. They obviously havent smoked weed for very long. I've seen ppl getting pretty fucked up the first time they smoke it. I havent with alcohol. Also there is a chance of getting a severe psychosis. I understand why it's illegal.
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
March 01 2009 19:35 GMT
#90
On March 02 2009 01:09 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 14:24 Mastermind wrote:
On March 01 2009 12:27 ilj.psa wrote:
not good imo shouldn't be legalize, just imagine like 70% of peple are stoners, that would be awesome and sad at the same time, yeah gonna get flamed.

You could at least try to justify your outrageous claims.

why is it outrageouus?, the number of stoners will indeed go up, i was joking about "70%". But legalizing marijuana in a whole state/country isn't a good preposition in terms of morals and health IMO.
* expecting some response that theres a study that marijuana doesn't affect your health *



I don't smoke but I'm all for legalization.

Yes marijuana is not good for your health in heavy excess, neither is alcohol, neither is fat, neither is pepsi or red meats. But aside from that, weed is very low on dependency and toxicity levels.

An Overdose on cannabis is unheard of because the body can tolerate high amounts of THC.

Cannabis is safer than alcohol
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
March 01 2009 19:37 GMT
#91
On March 02 2009 03:34 Clasic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2009 03:29 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
Jibba:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium

"After regularly producing 70% of the world's opium, Afghanistan decreased production to 74 tons per year under a ban by the Taliban in 2000, a move which cut production by 94 per cent. A year later, after American and British troops invaded Afghanistan, removed the Taliban and installed the interim government, the land under cultivation leapt back to 285 square miles, with Afghanistan supplanting Burma to become the world's largest opium producer once more. Opium production in that country has increased rapidly since, reaching an all-time high in 2006. According to DEA statistics, Afghanistan's production of oven-dried opium increased to 1,278 tons in 2002, more than doubled by 2003, and nearly doubled again during 2004"

In 2006 its 82% of world supply. In 2009 its how much?

Do you have something against Afghanistan?


He has something against US policy on drugs.
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 01 2009 19:46 GMT
#92
On March 02 2009 04:35 Rev0lution wrote:I don't smoke but I'm all for legalization.

Yes marijuana is not good for your health in heavy excess, neither is alcohol, neither is fat, neither is pepsi or red meats. But aside from that, weed is very low on dependency and toxicity levels.

An Overdose on cannabis is unheard of because the body can tolerate high amounts of THC.

Cannabis is safer than alcohol


This really is the key. Obviously, marijuana can be harmful in several ways if not used responsibly. But the same is true for alcohol and tobacco, and the fact is that both of those substances aren't illegal. You can't really condemn marijuana, while at the same time supporting or approving alcohol and/or tobacco.

Personally, I think that all three are harmful, and that people should generally be discouraged from using it if at all possible. However, I'm also well aware that you're never going to get everyone to not use it, and that it's not so dangerous that we have to make it illegal to possess it or use it reasonably. Just as with sex and the prevention of STD's, the trick is not to tell people to abstain completely, but to just be responsible and take appropriate steps to be as safe as possible.

As to this particular action by Obama, I support it since it's basically clearing up an inconsistency in the letter of the law and its enforcement (legalized by the states, but treated as illegal by DEA). However, I would like to see some steps taken to improve the process by which people can obtain prescriptions, because it really does appear to be too easy to get it now. I anticipate that this will be the next step, because Obama's not going to want to be seen as completely legalizing marijuana, which he would be seen as doing if he allowed people to own and use "medicinal marijuana" without taking any steps to make sure it's only being distributed for medicinal purposes. He's said it's okay to own and use it for medicinal purposes, so he's now got to make sure it's clear that he's taking steps to make sure it's ONLY being used for that purpose. The complete legalization of marijuana as recreational, as well as medical, uses isn't here yet.
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
March 01 2009 21:01 GMT
#93
On March 02 2009 04:33 MadNeSs wrote:
I dont really get why ppl are so hyped about medicinal marijuana being legal. I mean isnt the only thing its gonna be used for if you have some pain with your eyes, and stuff like that? Imo I dont think it's gonna be very easy to get, or even find someone who can get it for you.

Also I never understood ppl, who says weed doesnt fuck ppl up. They obviously havent smoked weed for very long. I've seen ppl getting pretty fucked up the first time they smoke it. I havent with alcohol. Also there is a chance of getting a severe psychosis. I understand why it's illegal.


How fucked up have you seen people get from smoking pot? Unless you smoke an incredible amount, you're not going to be that fucked up. The worst I've ever seen anyone get it a little freaked out (which is probably partially due it being illegal), somewhat uncontrollable muscle contractions in arms/legs, along with severe dizzyness, vomiting and then falling asleep.

But I've seen much worse for alcohol. I've never seen anyone throw up all night because of marijuana, at most usually once or twice. I've seen people basically vomiting for an hour straight after a night of heavy drinking. I've also seen people black out and not remember anything for several hours from alcohol. I've never personally seen it, but I'm sure people have died the first time they drink, whereas nobody has ever died from smoking. What effects have people gotten from pot that are worse than these things?
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
March 01 2009 21:13 GMT
#94
Isn't this like the perfectly normal thing to do?
Since it's already legalized by the state and all... Not sure how U S and A works, but the situation before this change sounds a little absurd.
Myrkul
Profile Joined February 2009
Croatia132 Posts
March 01 2009 21:26 GMT
#95
On March 01 2009 07:32 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 07:10 radiumz0rz wrote:
if it gets heavily, heavily taxed and regulated, i'm for it


If you put heavy taxes on weed then you are not solving the problem at all. Legalizing it with a severely steep tax on top would only make illegal weed dealers more prosperous because no one is going to buy something alot more expensive. Especially when growers / sellers can give it away for much much cheaper. If anything, you would be making the problem worse that way.

The goal is to eliminate the illegal dealers etc, and the violence and crime that go along with it. The best way to do that, is to not only legalize it, but sell it at a cheaper price than it is on the streets. Currently most marijuana goes for $10 a gram. however, dealers can buy it for close to $3 dollars a gram from a grower. If the government dropped the price to $3-4 dollars per gram, then it just wouldn't be worth it for weed dealers to continue selling it.


holy shit 10 bucks a gram? for regular weed u get about 7-8g for 10 dollars where i live
July = best goddamn zvp in this part of the universe
iheartgna
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States184 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 21:28:49
March 01 2009 21:28 GMT
#96
The original idea that the DEA did not respect the statewide laws is not as absurd as everyone seems to try to make it out, we all know that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

Anyway I'm glad there is some headway being made in marijuana legalization, and anyone who is insinuating that this will not affect the non-medicinal users have not visited Oaksterdam, California.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oaksterdam

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Measure Z Clubs are businesses that sells cannabis to people over the age of 18. One private club in Oaksterdam sells cannabis and food containing cannabis to adults who do not hold valid physician recommendations for medical marijuana, which are needed to obtain county issued patient identification cards in California. One such club is named after Oakland's Measure Z, a city ballot initiative which makes the private sales, cultivation, and possession of cannabis the lowest police priority and mandates that the City of Oakland tax and regulate cannabis as soon as possible under state law.
Hell is other people.
Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
March 01 2009 21:45 GMT
#97
On March 01 2009 10:22 Osmoses wrote:
Question is how many people will smoke weed once it's legalized, seeing as how it won't be cool anymore

whoever smokes weed to be "cool" is a retard .....
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 01 2009 22:08 GMT
#98
weed keeps the news interesting Even though I dont use any, it still is entertaining
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
March 01 2009 22:27 GMT
#99
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=083128310F3EBD4A
Thats to all of you who think weed is bad.
Gosh, I still can't belive people think it will " hurt you " in the long run.
My friends great grandpa was smoking weed for 50 years, he was the healthiest and wisest/smartest man I know. He even lived till he was 96 so beat that.
Lol I sound like a 10 year old.
No no no no its not mine!
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
March 01 2009 22:36 GMT
#100
On March 02 2009 06:01 PJA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2009 04:33 MadNeSs wrote:
I dont really get why ppl are so hyped about medicinal marijuana being legal. I mean isnt the only thing its gonna be used for if you have some pain with your eyes, and stuff like that? Imo I dont think it's gonna be very easy to get, or even find someone who can get it for you.

Also I never understood ppl, who says weed doesnt fuck ppl up. They obviously havent smoked weed for very long. I've seen ppl getting pretty fucked up the first time they smoke it. I havent with alcohol. Also there is a chance of getting a severe psychosis. I understand why it's illegal.


How fucked up have you seen people get from smoking pot? Unless you smoke an incredible amount, you're not going to be that fucked up. The worst I've ever seen anyone get it a little freaked out (which is probably partially due it being illegal), somewhat uncontrollable muscle contractions in arms/legs, along with severe dizzyness, vomiting and then falling asleep.

But I've seen much worse for alcohol. I've never seen anyone throw up all night because of marijuana, at most usually once or twice. I've seen people basically vomiting for an hour straight after a night of heavy drinking. I've also seen people black out and not remember anything for several hours from alcohol. I've never personally seen it, but I'm sure people have died the first time they drink, whereas nobody has ever died from smoking. What effects have people gotten from pot that are worse than these things?


Well, I had a periode where I was smoking basically everyday, and there always came new ppl everyday, some who hadnt ever tried it.

Once there was this girl, who smoked one head (dont know what ppl call it in english), and I swear she got completely fucked up, she didnt understand shit, and all she said didnt make any sense, and when you asked her something she only said jibberish. It's hard to really explain, but I've never seen anyone getting that fucked up, from smoking weed before. Also their was a lady friend of mine, who always got fucking fucked up, and got totally fucked up. I once asked her (hope this makes sense in english): "Bettina, is your name spelled with one or two t's?" and she said: "What...!? Tennis racket?" - WTF?

Also there is the paranoia stuff. I remember one of my friend some years ago, when we were smoking some weed at his apartment. Then suddenly he was just convinced that the cops had planted microphones all over his apartment no matter what we said he still believed it. Then someone ringed the door bell,and he hurried into the bedroom and jumped into the bed, because he thought it was the cops.

That being said. I dont mind weed at all, but comparing it to alcohol is just stupid, it is pretty dangerous. However I'm pretty sure alot of ppl can smoke it every weekend for at alot of years, without having ant psychotic episodes or anything. But seriously saying, that weed should be legal, is just a sign of ignorance.
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