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inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
March 01 2009 04:53 GMT
#61
On March 01 2009 12:17 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 12:11 Mynock wrote:
Yeah, I just saw the news too.

[image loading]

Shoped? lol


rofl
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
March 01 2009 05:24 GMT
#62
On March 01 2009 12:27 ilj.psa wrote:
not good imo shouldn't be legalize, just imagine like 70% of peple are stoners, that would be awesome and sad at the same time, yeah gonna get flamed.

You could at least try to justify your outrageous claims.
PhorClayton
Profile Joined July 2008
United States198 Posts
March 01 2009 07:08 GMT
#63
On March 01 2009 12:11 Mynock wrote:
Yeah, I just saw the news too.

[image loading]


That's not photoshopped.

It's from 9/11.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 01 2009 07:09 GMT
#64
Nor is it funny.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
PhorClayton
Profile Joined July 2008
United States198 Posts
March 01 2009 07:15 GMT
#65
On March 01 2009 08:50 PhorClayton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 07:32 eXigent. wrote:
On March 01 2009 07:10 radiumz0rz wrote:
if it gets heavily, heavily taxed and regulated, i'm for it


If you put heavy taxes on weed then you are not solving the problem at all. Legalizing it with a severely steep tax on top would only make illegal weed dealers more prosperous because no one is going to buy something alot more expensive. Especially when growers / sellers can give it away for much much cheaper. If anything, you would be making the problem worse that way.

The goal is to eliminate the illegal dealers etc, and the violence and crime that go along with it. The best way to do that, is to not only legalize it, but sell it at a cheaper price than it is on the streets. Currently most marijuana goes for $10 a gram. however, dealers can buy it for close to $3 dollars a gram from a grower. If the government dropped the price to $3-4 dollars per gram, then it just wouldn't be worth it for weed dealers to continue selling it.


Agreed. I'd imagine that the major players in the market of legal US marijuana would be the tobacco companies. With steep taxes, if they felt they couldn't gain an edge over illegal street sold marijuana, why wouldn't they lobby the government for lower taxes on it?

But also, and more probable, is that if it were made legal, why wouldn't marijuana, with all it's trendy strains, become like micro-breweries, a unique one in every major town and city?

Simply compare buying street marijuana (in a legal environment) to buying your beer from someone's basement... it doesn't make sense. Everyone is going to want a brand name, because it will be better, probably cheaper and most importantly, convenient.


Tooth Paste For Dinner, good timing:
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TrainReq
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada113 Posts
March 01 2009 07:25 GMT
#66
On March 01 2009 16:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Nor is it funny.


I laughed a bit to be honest.
Don't put your fingers where you wouldn't put your dick.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 01 2009 07:27 GMT
#67
On March 01 2009 12:19 Kennelie wrote:
2004 called and asked what you doing with its footage...


i would guess 2001 was calling..
:O
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 01 2009 08:23 GMT
#68
BANGIN
cw)minsean(ru
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
March 01 2009 15:58 GMT
#69
On March 01 2009 08:20 Piy wrote:
it just went to class B here...That's 5-10 if i get caught with intent.....

I know a guy who just got caught with definite intent and things don't look good for him.

I'm glad to hear about this, progress is being made and hopefully the government here will change their tune.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
March 01 2009 16:09 GMT
#70
On March 01 2009 14:24 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 12:27 ilj.psa wrote:
not good imo shouldn't be legalize, just imagine like 70% of peple are stoners, that would be awesome and sad at the same time, yeah gonna get flamed.

You could at least try to justify your outrageous claims.

why is it outrageouus?, the number of stoners will indeed go up, i was joking about "70%". But legalizing marijuana in a whole state/country isn't a good preposition in terms of morals and health IMO.
* expecting some response that theres a study that marijuana doesn't affect your health *

MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
March 01 2009 16:20 GMT
#71
well..
The stoners will be at least more "accepted" and stuff.
And stoners are better than wifebeater alcoholics.

Legalizing weed would probably lower alcohol use.

Because alcohol nor weed fits everyone :p
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 16:23:18
March 01 2009 16:22 GMT
#72
thread title changed to actually reflect what happened -_-
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 16:23:40
March 01 2009 16:22 GMT
#73
On March 02 2009 01:09 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 14:24 Mastermind wrote:
On March 01 2009 12:27 ilj.psa wrote:
not good imo shouldn't be legalize, just imagine like 70% of peple are stoners, that would be awesome and sad at the same time, yeah gonna get flamed.

You could at least try to justify your outrageous claims.

why is it outrageouus?, the number of stoners will indeed go up, i was joking about "70%". But legalizing marijuana in a whole state/country isn't a good preposition in terms of morals and health IMO.
* expecting some response that theres a study that marijuana doesn't affect your health *

I think the general argument is that while marijuana does affect your health, it doesn't affect it any worse than alcohol or tobacco. Can't make an argument against it affecting morals, since that's purely subjective.

Edit: thanks FS, I was kind of regretting the title I put up originally =/
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2009 16:30 GMT
#74
On March 02 2009 01:09 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 14:24 Mastermind wrote:
On March 01 2009 12:27 ilj.psa wrote:
not good imo shouldn't be legalize, just imagine like 70% of peple are stoners, that would be awesome and sad at the same time, yeah gonna get flamed.

You could at least try to justify your outrageous claims.

why is it outrageouus?, the number of stoners will indeed go up, i was joking about "70%". But legalizing marijuana in a whole state/country isn't a good preposition in terms of morals and health IMO.
* expecting some response that theres a study that marijuana doesn't affect your health *



Yeah, forget that the majority of drug related death and crime is violence over the right to sell illegal drugs, and competition between cartels.

Forget that the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness involves ingesting whichever chemicals may or may not please you.

Forget that 70% is an outrageous and idiotic number.

Who cares if more people get stoned? Jesus, half the people who run this country are probably coke addicts anyway. Plenty of people do drugs and succeed.
RIP Aaliyah
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 16:37:25
March 01 2009 16:32 GMT
#75
wow this is huge

DEA fucking with the state laws has always been such a pain in the ass, now that's going to stop it's pretty much weed everywhere. all you need is to know someone who can buy medical MJ, and how difficult is that?

weed isn't illegal because it fucks you up. it has never fucked anyone up. it's only illegal because pharmaceutical companies, alchohol and tobac companies are against it.

natural plant = no patent = no ridiculously overpriced good with inelastic demand for 20 years

and alcohol and tobac? well... recreative drug with no hangover the next day (maybe a little slow and a little high still) and no fucked up lungs and addiction and cancer.... hm....


though... i only see it as a pain reliever and not really the panacea it's hyped up to be by the people fighting for it to be legalized. I see it as a recreational drug that should be legalized and taxed pretty heavily.

my god the price difference will not make a difference! those of you saying if it's 50% more expensive people will go back to their dealers is talking right out of their asses! haven't you learned anything? people buy stuff because of brands! people are WILLING to shell out enormous amounts of cash for Levis, Nike, Smirnoff, Marlboro its ridiculous... and now something like weed gets legalized and you know that it will be top quality bud with a name? I've never heard any of my friends buy their alcohol from homebrewers or anyone that smokes get their smoke from tobac growers. only as a one time thing if a friend made some wine or something they would get it as a gift, but otherwise nothing big.

to people saying that people will pop up at their jobs all high and there will be traffic accidents all over... I don't see drunk people walking the streets, going to work, crashing their cars so much that it turns into a serious problem. of course there will be idiots, but those are the same idiots that are irresponsible regardless what substance abuse they're having.


MJ is cheap, easy to grow, has no serious health effects, has no hangover. Hell, it's about time the govt stepped in and tried to regulate the inflated prices and cashed in on this huge business.

and let's not forget alcohol used to be illegal, what a shitstorm that was.




the next/real question is cocaine and heroine. legalize and tax? I think -that- is a more discussion worthy topic. it's going to be around anyway. aggregate demand will always be present. but i'm really split on coke and smack.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
March 01 2009 16:43 GMT
#76
In general in countries where drugs have been legalized, drug abuse has gone down. Everything should be legal; it's your own body and health and if you want to abuse it so be it.
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
March 01 2009 16:49 GMT
#77
On March 02 2009 01:09 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 14:24 Mastermind wrote:
On March 01 2009 12:27 ilj.psa wrote:
not good imo shouldn't be legalize, just imagine like 70% of peple are stoners, that would be awesome and sad at the same time, yeah gonna get flamed.

You could at least try to justify your outrageous claims.

why is it outrageouus?, the number of stoners will indeed go up, i was joking about "70%". But legalizing marijuana in a whole state/country isn't a good preposition in terms of morals and health IMO.
* expecting some response that theres a study that marijuana doesn't affect your health *



Dude, it really isn't bad for your health.

On another note : Marijuana is pretty much legal in all north South American countries exept Venezuela.
No no no no its not mine!
Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
March 01 2009 17:24 GMT
#78
I hope tax exempt status for churches is next to go.
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
March 01 2009 17:46 GMT
#79
Your DEA is busy doing cocaine, opium and heroin business. For your information that is the product that comes mostly from Afghanistan. You can guess how the drug industry has grown over there since the anti terrorist guys stepped in. Wohoo
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 01 2009 17:47 GMT
#80
On March 01 2009 16:08 PhorClayton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 12:11 Mynock wrote:
Yeah, I just saw the news too.

[image loading]


That's not photoshopped.

It's from 9/11.

The text at the bottom is photoshopped :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
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