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On January 09 2009 16:18 ForVengeance wrote: I PERSONALLY THINK CHICKS ARE 99 PERCENT IDIOTS.
So what you're saying is that you're gay?! O_o 'Cause all I kept reading was how 'girls suck cause i lost my loved one that we were dating for three years, now I must go gay cause all girls suck and suck more.'
Seriously, the only way to think about a girl in that way is because you had a bad experience from dating.
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Please skip to My Views ( below) for my post referring to the OP, and not another individual
To ForVengeance: First Please take the time to read this, i have no malice intended, and am trying to understand/ clarify your views
I can see the points you are trying to make, mostly that the average person has an IQ of 100 and that they are easily influenced or manipulated ( peer pressure anyone?), and that you have simply applied this notion to the female gender as is inherent to the nature of this thread, (Clarification: he is willing to say men are stupid as well, and will be right in the most part), but you have done two things in the process of transmitting these ideas which has riled up a few members.
First you use absolutes. I understand that you are primarily trying to transmit meaning and intent, which is alright but understand you will get criticized for it especially sense there are so many indviduals who believe in what your are writing and not saying ( Clarification: I PERSONALLY THINK CHICKS ARE 99 PERCENT IDIOTS. in this statement if read between the lines we get that you believe people in general are ignorant, but some of these ignorant people who you refer to in that phrase ACTUALLY BELIEVE 99% of chicks are idiots.
Second, you apply this directly to a gender (female) in an almost misogynistic way. Though I perceive this as a simple application of your thoughts (on people in general) to the subject at hand (women).
I would also like to point out one that i personally ( can't speak for other TL members since i have yet to see a post regarding this specific part of yours( yours being the one i am going to refer to ) did not appreciate the unsubstantiated and that is the last part about genes and how they aren't human etc.. here you imply the idea that the only reason ( with the exception of a platonic one) we have relationships is because of our primal necessity to reproduce, well this is not the case, I.E gay people, and the use of contraceptive methods. I have a feeling this part was an emotional add-on used to make little of relationships in general, but i never the less disagree with it's inclusion in the post.
To Manifesto7: even though the research and his subsequent backing of it by personal experienced does not make it a universal truth, it does as he stated, make it the truth to him and relevant to his post as it clarifies his way of thinking.
this is not to start an argument between us, though if you find something you feel you disagree with or would like to discuss based on my views you are more than welcome to, but to define why i believe that particular part of his post was relevant or necessary, also i justify, according to my view on the post, where other parts of his post are relevant to his views in the part of this post directed at him.
My Views
I Personally feel that to us individuals with a majority of bad relationships, ( mind you i am still young) they are failures because of our nature primarily, and not necessarily by the women we relate with, we are reflected on them and thus the relationship falters or fails due to our shortcomings and rough edges.
I for one am a broken individual or at least not entirely sane as normality would dictate, and thus my relationships are thus insanely complex ( to me) and emotionally/psychologically draining( on both of use).
Also I do not have "dumb chicks" as partners since we simply don't mesh well together, and to elucidate, i mean "dumb chicks" as in superficial women who, like ForVengeance stated, listen to current music because it's current or spend most of their day worrying about their hair and nails, which does not make them less than I am, they simply have different priorities and lifestyles thus not meshing well with me.
And to all the skeptics who think i haven't "really fallen" for a girl, or at least not the "right" girl, I did and she killed herself while we were supposedly in love, and if you would like a vivid description of what that felt like to check the validity of this statement please ask for it and i will try to post something as close to what i felt.
Oh and please do not say that I blame myself for her death and thus i blame myself for every relationship failing, as this is not the case, she killed her self of her own free will.
My Views in a nutshell it's our fault our relationships fail guys
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One can always blame oneself for all the misfortunes one endures. That is a grim philosophy that will definitely make life less enjoyable.
As for me, I'm in love so of course I'm happy! There are just those who are and those who aren't.
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long distant sucks that's all I gotta say =(
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On January 09 2009 18:08 iloveHieu wrote: long distant sucks that's all I gotta say =(
AGREED
On January 09 2009 16:18 ForVengeance wrote: I PERSONALLY THINK CHICKS ARE 99 PERCENT IDIOTS.
I have yet to meet a girl i would deem of having common sense/ not being an airhead. All of them. Jocks/nerds/hot girls, they're all fucking airheads. Our high school valedictorian has said some of the dumbest things i've ever heard T_T
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Its all about Maslows Pyramid guys. Those who say less enjoyable are the sociopaths and the people who havent passed the first few levels of the Maslow =)
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Norway28281 Posts
depends entirely on the relationship AND the person some people would be less happy in any relationship, some would be more happy in almost any relationship, some would be happier in a good relationship and less happy in a bad one
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I believe that if you can find the right women, you will forever be happy. "Love is finding ones counterpoint in another" lol
This what I see: People are too hasty to jump into relationships, and thusly do not fully understand or applicate the person they are with. Because of this, people end up starting a relationship while only understanding 10% or so of the person they are now in a commitment with. i believe that there is always someone out there for anyone, and coming from a misanthrope (for any of your that read my blog's this should be apparent ^^) like myself- Even I can get a girl (2) (to be precise) for me. I believe that haste is what causes unhappy relationships.
Blondies mother once told me this: "It is unfair to judge someone until you have been with them for 4 seasons."
I really took that to heart, and i hope that you can also see the wisdom in that little gem!
Happy Hunting!
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On January 10 2009 02:33 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 18:08 iloveHieu wrote: long distant sucks that's all I gotta say =( AGREED Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 16:18 ForVengeance wrote: I PERSONALLY THINK CHICKS ARE 99 PERCENT IDIOTS.
I have yet to meet a girl i would deem of having common sense/ not being an airhead. All of them. Jocks/nerds/hot girls, they're all fucking airheads. Our high school valedictorian has said some of the dumbest things i've ever heard T_T
I think people in general think way too highly of their own intelligence. The kind of arrogance that stems from a false sense of surpriority is rather disgusting imho. ForVengance' posts were excellent examples of this as well, I wonder what makes people act that way?
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Shared Pain Is Half Pain, Shared Joy Is Double Joy
Serious relationships are like a responsible job: you would better not take it on if you are not ready for it. And most people are never ready.
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On January 10 2009 03:15 Cheerio wrote: Shared Pain Is Half Pain, Shared Joy Is Double Joy
Serious relationships are like a responsible job: you would better not take it on if you are not ready for it. And most people are never ready. So most people should vote "Less enjoyable".
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It's impossible to be truly 100% happy in a relationship. Sorry, if you are, you're deluding yourself. However, relationships do help you keep a 'minimum happiness'. For example, you might never go below 60% happy with your life because you always have help/money/family to fall back on.
But you can't be 100% happy, because you experience life only through your perspective. You look out of your own eyes, you feel out of your own body. Living in restraints and rules, and giving up valuable pieces of your scant time, living for someone else is never a 'happy' thing. We do a good job of deluding ourselves and saying 'oh I enjoy making someone else happy' and all that, but honestly this is not what you'd rather be doing. All of us would rather be doing amazing things, going interesting places, or building something cool - not grinding our life away at a school/job somewhere to satisfy the judgmental oversight of a significant other. If you didn't have to impress somebody (most notably the opposite sex), what would you be doing? Would you be going into indentured servitude via college debt? Would you still feel inadequate all the time because every person around you makes up BS about how great their job/girl/school is because they feel inadequate too? Nah. You'd probably take a bunch of friends and go to Sweden and never come back.
Families are different of course. Having kids is the primary responsibility of the living.
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On January 10 2009 03:10 Liquid`Drone wrote: depends entirely on the relationship AND the person some people would be less happy in any relationship, some would be more happy in almost any relationship, some would be happier in a good relationship and less happy in a bad one
so how was the icedEarth relationship?
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Norway28281 Posts
crappy, obviously
current one good
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On January 10 2009 03:41 garmule2 wrote: It's impossible to be truly 100% happy in a relationship. Depends on what drugs you take.
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Depends on what drugs you take. Pleasure != Happiness
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This is a retarded question.
If you aren't ready to settle down, then of course it will make your life 'less enjoyable.'
If you are ready to settle down, then it will be 'more enjoyable.'
What's up with these polls lately?
Dream, your 'Do you wipe your butt up or down?' and 'Do you tuck your penis in when you take a crap' polls were much better. Those ones spring more curiosity.
I had a lot more interest in those.
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I pretty much just felt from quite an early age (maybe I'm just weird / fucked up, you tell!) that my only "goal in life" is to find happiness in maintaining a healthy family. Thus finding the girl suitable for that, of course
I guess it's pretty obvious what my answer to this question is, then.
P.s.: Mani, I've never seen someone mix "your" and "you're" in the way you just did, only the other way around. The extra small joys of teh interwebz (not to berate you, really - I think I can feel that your post contains a LOT of anger held back[justifying the typo], which you should get props for - I don't think I could've held myself back there)
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On January 10 2009 04:06 Naib wrote:I pretty much just felt from quite an early age (maybe I'm just weird / fucked up, you tell!) that my only "goal in life" is to find happiness in maintaining a healthy family. Thus finding the girl suitable for that, of course I guess it's pretty obvious what my answer to this question is, then. P.s.: Mani, I've never seen someone mix "your" and "you're" in the way you just did, only the other way around. The extra small joys of teh interwebz (not to berate you, really - I think I can feel that your post contains a LOT of anger held back[justifying the typo], which you should get props for - I don't think I could've held myself back there ) This is so true for me... The only thing I really need in this world is to spend as much of my life with the person I want to/will marry... T_T
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