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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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I mean, just look at RaGe's post. | ||
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Puosu
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On January 04 2009 05:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I agree with you, Gear. The real problem is that all the old-timers have become douchebags. I mean, just look at RaGe's post. RaGe could've written an essay on the topic but really, the whole thing came clear in a few words. Expressing your opinion should not require walls of text unless of course the situation calls for it. You really can't deny it sounding arrogant as hell either. | ||
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brian
United States9625 Posts
On January 04 2009 05:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I agree with you, Gear. The real problem is that all the old-timers have become douchebags. I mean, just look at RaGe's post. summation : You're right, rage is a doucebag. thank you for your individual effort. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
I'll try even harder now by posting and contribute more! :O | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
*shudder* | ||
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On January 04 2009 05:22 MYM.Testie wrote: clazziquai's country picks 08 *shudder* LOLOLOL | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 04 2009 05:25 AdamBanks wrote: Ugh another one of these purges. These things do little to improve the quality of posting here rather it just turns into finger pointing, name calling and then temp bans. Its good that you are trying to improve post quality, but your method (or lack thereof) has not the effects you desire and quiet possibily detracts from the quality of disscussion on the forum. The Stategy forum purge did a damn good job. So did the Purge of '08. While these threads can turn into somewhat of a shitstorm, I think the overall forum quality tends to increase. | ||
micronesia
United States24701 Posts
(which I think they have been doing lately), then it's more than reasonable for them to expect everybody to apply a bit of self-reflection, and maintain a good level of posting quality. | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
On January 04 2009 05:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I agree with you, Gear. The real problem is that all the old-timers have become douchebags. I mean, just look at RaGe's post. DING DING DING. | ||
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
On January 04 2009 05:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The Stategy forum purge did a damn good job. So did the Purge of '08. While these threads can turn into somewhat of a shitstorm, I think the overall forum quality tends to increase. Now that you mention it, the strategy forum did go from 0 - 100 but i think that was a special case. I just find these threads redundant and are just ban bait for some newb to speak there mind to someone with a pile of post's even tho both may have a point in their respective argruements. Anyway, maybe i'm wrong and this thread will keep me from having to wonder if you sit or stand when you wipe. | ||
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KwarK
United States42957 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On January 04 2009 05:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I agree with you, Gear. The real problem is that all the old-timers have become douchebags. I mean, just look at RaGe's post. ... I have read a shitload of GearItUp posts and 99% of them were terrible. Then, as one of the worst low post count users he starts giving us shit for giving veterans some more credit? Not to mention the way in which he did it.. (this is in reply to GearItUp  The small advantages that we give to veteran users are advantages they earned. And while sometimes it may be a bit unfair, I often get the feeling that a lot of previously permbanned users and warned/tempbanned users use it as an excuse. "If I had more posts I wouldn't have been banned for that." or "There are forum regulars that post worse than me." are the worst excuses I personally can imagine for bad posting behaviour. First of all, low post count or high post count, before a ban a mod will ALWAYS look at your post history. If you don't contribute at all, badmouth other people don't blame TLs moderating system. Blame yourself. I'm 100% convinced that every single person on this planet could post actively on TL and not get banned, as long as he puts effort, thought and respect into his posts. We never ban based off personality (with LastShadow etc being obvious exceptions). Secondly, as previously mentioned, while this slight advantage giving to veterans might be a bit unfair compared to other forum moderating systems, it definately churns out the best forum quality. Doesn't seniority always play a role in every active community? Otherwise it's really hard to moderate and/or maintain a quality standard in the forums. Also, I would like to react to your 'Customer Is King' argument. Who the fuck do you think you are, GearItUp ? 'Im a new poster, I make you guys money, serve me bitches' is basically the aura that came off of your posts. Every single active staff member of TeamLiquid gives a lot to the TL community without getting any kind of money out of it. No, we do it cause we like the community and it's high standards. Your argument says that we should "adapt to the customer's needs". I think that a staff filled with people that are committed to the community are allowed to demand a good post quality from that community. They are allowed to determine what defines a good post and what defines a bad post. Now, I'm not asking you to bow humbly for all staff members, but the least you could show some respect to the set of rules they defined, the set of rules that made this website have a high quality community for so many years. You're new around here, and while it would indeed be unfair of me to judge you based on your joining date/post count, you should realize that you're 1. too new and mostly 2. too much of a HORRIBLE poster to fully understand how TL works, let alone redefine our standards. I doubt you're even gonna read this. You're probably just gonna cry over the ban you've just been given, whine that it's all because you're a low post count user, and never change your arrogant attitude. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
Keep up the good work guys... I don't think I've ever been part of a forum that was run so well. As always I'll be avoiding making wasteful posts. Hopefully everyone else will to and we can all make this a better place. Just felt the need to put in my 2cts after all the hatin' | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
What's the problem? 75% of the forums in general (and in other forums, although there are much less there) turn into shitstorms of insulting and people eventually getting banned. And we get random, overall shitty threads that usually get closed as soon as a mod sees it. Don't think the mods should just moderate more strictly, because most of the posts I see aren't worth a banning, just a warning or something of the sort. Huh? What's wrong with this? Well, the shitstorm is definitely not a way to encourage new users to post here. I joined teamliquid 9 months ago, and lurked for about 3-4 months before I made an account. At first I was posting in the general forum, but that has gradually decreased as the number of random arguments ensuing mass insulting has increased. As for the random, shitty threads, just look at the /b/ board of 4chan. Most people don't like that. Well? What should we do? Well, looking at the general threads, most of the shitstorms start with a difference in opinion, in which one person will begin to insult someone who's opinion differs from theirs. Arguments in the general forum are unavoidable, and there is no reason to stop them, they give out good info to people who read it, along with different viewpoint on the issues. But, please don't use anything insulting in your retort, just say something along the lines of "I disagree, and here's why/my point _______." In the general forum we see people insulting each other nonstop. I want the flaming/trolling to stop. But dis n00b is dumb lolololol, can i flame plz???// No, let the mods deal with posts that are obviously against the commandments. Do not reply to them. Should I make this thread? Or will it get closed? I just request that you really think before you make a new thread or post. Just use common sense on whether you think it will be closed, and whether it is an overall acceptable thread. Key Points
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
I don't see this so much as a Red Scare as a much-needed restoration of order. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
I don't exactly think everyone has the same idea of a "good post", but I guess that it's going to be the moderators job to decide that. Anyone who has ever been a part of any forum basically has to accept that before they even begin posting. I've never seen a thread get closed on TL that I didn't think warranted it. And I commend the moderators for that. Anyway, always glad to hear that the administrators are going to make more of an effort to ensure quality on the forums. Not saying it's needed, but always good to hear that people are on top of that. I come from a place where the forums are absolutely mind-boggling. Not in a good way, either. Everyone who complains about TL's forums needs to take a look at a lot of other forums. cough cough. Where else can you really connect with fellow pro SC fans on this level? Riddle me that. | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
And I don't see what the problem is being harder on new people? Your first hundred posts (though mine where less than stellar) are a good indication of your attitude for the rest of your time here, and it's not a problem to make judgments based on the fact that you have only 75 posts and 20 of them are outright flames. Meanwhile we would have older members making the same kinds of posts, but it's let slide sometimes because their overall % of good/bad posts is a lot better than the 75/20 of the new member. It has less to do with favoritism and a lot more to do with a large % of someones posts being shitty. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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