Epic Riot In Greece - Page 8

On December 18 2008 13:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
this is a pretty cool riot.

Like half of the protesters are in the most epic, iconic poses you could possibly be in-- all while the city burns around you. Random.

On December 18 2008 06:28 jjun212 wrote:
This takes balls.

Canadian and American civilians balls are no where near as big as the rest World's peoples.

Of course, this is just a personal opinion but so much b.s happens here but not "bad enough" for the masses to take action. North Americans have their own prerogative to decide what they want to do but in the end, I think it's due to fear of the government.

Governments should be scared of their people, not the other way around.

. For serious if you deeply believe your government is corrupt why the fuck do you live there.

On December 18 2008 13:09 cz wrote:


Yeah brah.

Btw you finished Mr. Stevens' bio assignment yet? I can't figure out question 3.

PS I can't believe we're going to high school in just 8 MONTHS! WOO!

cya in class tomorrow dazed

On December 18 2008 13:12 SerpentFlame wrote:
A few people can be in definitely in the wrong, but when a large group of people are willing to face off against another large group (in this case, rioters vs government), then there are almost certainly deeper problems. This bases itself on the basic statistical assumptions that among a distributed population, there aren't abnormally high concentrations of psychotics, and that people are all created, at least to some extent about moral judgment, equal.
Is anyone completely in the right? Certainly not. But one side has to be more in the wrong than the other.

While I don't have a developed opinion on this issue specifically, I noticed a lot of people in this thread seem to champion rioting as *always* wrong, clearly doing so without actually researching this case in specific. The arguments supporting those claims is that peaceful demonstration will always work. (Which they don't; the example of ending slavery, which was brought up, was to a much greater extent economic free-labor, which is entirely situational as opposed to general, rather than to abolitionist moral rectitude. It was also based upon war?)


When you live somewhere, you have a right to the land, so long as it was earned through honest labor?

It's hilarious that you mention how African Americans eventually won their rights, while advocating that, "They should've just moved?"

If everyone just moved to wherever they wanted to move, rather than expressing change, violent or otherwise, (Keep in mind that all of the prominent non-violent movements, however grand they be, are all backed by violence) even assuming that moving was socioeconomically viable for everyone, imagine where we'd be today eh? Slavery and black codes in the US, Monarchies and despots in Europe, Empires in Asia, Sovietism in Russia, etc, etc, etc. Don't solve stuff, move somewhere else!

And look where we are in Africa eh? Refugees everywhere. People displaced (<--- that is not a good thing, for you move-advocates). Problems everywhere. Shit is not being solved. No, I am not saying that riots would solve the problem in that case, but "if you don't like it, move" mentality is borderlining on complete ignorance.

On December 18 2008 13:17 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Lol, that was a really pathetic attempt at an insult. Oh poor immature me, Im not empathetic that people are having a shitty life SOMEWHERE in the world, at some point in time. Fuck off dude. How long am I seriously suppose to care that people die in wars? Terrorist bombings? Starvation? Disease? It's a common mother fucking occurrence and it always will be, its on the news every damn night, and when its half way across the globe- yes, I am fucking desensitized. And you really don't have any moral high ground in all this, because its pretty damn assured you are desensitized as well.

On December 18 2008 13:20 cz wrote:


You got owned, move on.

Random.

On December 18 2008 13:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:
So how much charities have you donated to today? [Or ever]?

On December 18 2008 13:22 cz wrote:


Too busy with the epic and iconic poses. Random.

On December 18 2008 13:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:
You got owned, move on.

On December 18 2008 05:23 closed wrote:
The riots are caused by economic reasons IMO. European Union is basically making people poor.
Especially the young. As described in the blog, there is a "700 euro generation" of overworked, underpaid and debt-ridden people. Such problems occur in the whole EU - e.g. in Italy, they have been talking about "1000 euro generation", there are problems with employment in France, which were "solved" by introducing 35h working weeks. The CEE countries such as Poland have big problems with emigration - a lot of young people travel to other EU countries, because instead of earning PLN 900 (which is not much), they can earn EUR 900, which is still not much, but a bit more in terms of purchasing power.

I have the feeling that free trade system will actually collapse, as it means that technically the incomes should get averaged - the Chinese will earn more, while everyone else will earn less. Perhaps bringing back duties could do it.
Its also the problem of introducing euro, the monetary policy and many other policies, which simply slow down the development e.g. Germany has been having economic problems for quite a long time now.

Not sure about such countries as France, or the UK; but the government sectors seem to be very inefficient in many EU countries - e.g. Greece, Italy, Poland etc.

On December 19 2008 02:48 Smorrie wrote:
pictures...