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On August 19 2008 06:29 X.xDeMoNiCx.X wrote:try and figure out which statments are really true and which are really false.  enjoy... each true keeps the statement the same, each false reverses it. start with statement 1. statement 1) 2 and 3 are false. statement 2) 1 is false, 3 is true. statement 3) 4 is false, 5 is true. statement 4) 2 is true, 3 is false. statement 5) 1 is true, 3 is true. ill give you guys a while to figure it out before posting the answer. edit: hint, tally up all the true/false for each statement on a piece of paper as you go.
Since you said start with one i will
I assume 1 is true. This means that 2 and 3 are false, meaning 1 is true, and 4 is true. Except now 2 is true if four is true.
This means 1 is false, right? Well that means 2 and 3 are true. Which mean 2 and three are true. Which means 5 is true. Which means 1 is true. But we just figured out its false. No solution starting with 1.
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On August 19 2008 14:51 iamke55 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Only the first statement is true. Just start from Statement 5 and work your way up from that.
He says start with one...
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On August 20 2008 02:20 MiniRoman wrote:+ Show Spoiler +1 and 5 true, the rest false
if 5 is T, 3 is also T, so it doesn't work
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On August 20 2008 01:37 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Someone please close this thread. It's making me (and others) sad.
Yeah fuck this.
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+ Show Spoiler +Assuming 1 = true, 2 and 3 contain elements of falseness.
4 options:
yes, yes
yes, no
no, yes,
no, no
if 2 is completely false, that means, 1 is true and 3 contains elements of falseness. ( which is what we want since it matches up with statement 1)
So far, we have established based on our 1st assumption,
1= completely true.
2= completely false.
If 3 contains elements of falseness, then there are only 3 possibilites. Since the given statement is
"statement 3) 4 is false, 5 is true." and that this is false,
Only remaining is:
yes, yes
yes, no
no, no
SKipping ahead for a second, we want to maintain the fact that
1= completely true.
2= completely false.
Thus, with statement 4,"statement 4) 2 is true, 3 is false." We want it to be false so that 2 will be false.
Since we have assumed 3 contains elements of falseness, the only remaining choice is (no, no) since (no, yes) is assumed false.
We now have:
1= completely true.
2= completely false.
3= Half True. (but still false)
Since statement 3 allows us to continue the assumption that statement 4 is false, that means we are able to conclude some information.
We know that the first part, 2=yes is false. What we don't know is whether the second part of the statement, 3 is false is true or not.
However, since we already established 3 = half true, we can say the 2nd part of statement 4 is true.
We now have:
1= completely true.
2= completely false.
3= Half True. (but still false)
4= Half True ( but still false)
Statement 5 says 1= true. We must assume this to be true since it is the basis for everything. However, based from statement 3, we had established statement 5 is false. That means 3=yes is incorrect. Meaning 3 is false. ( Which we have established )
Thus
1=true
2=false
3=false
4=false
5=false
Is what I think the answer is.
I think this is right, does anyone have the 100% answer? ( my explanation may be a bit odd though.) I use yes = true, and no = false throughout it.
edit: When I first attempted it, I was operating solely with Completely True or Completely False. When I did this, I ended up going in a circle, since statements contradicted each other.
What i did in the spoiler, was assume that a False statement can still have truth in it.
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There is no answer to this puzzle, I can only only assume that it was meant to be typed:
statement 1) 2 and 3 are false.
statement 2) 1 is false, 3 is false.
statement 3) 4 is false, 5 is true.
statement 4) 2 is true, 3 is false.
statement 5) 1 is true, 3 is true.
p.s. X.xDeMoNiCx.X, I got nothing done at work 2day thanks to you, you baffoon 
p.p.s. There is an actual answer to the above
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+ Show Spoiler +1 is true, rest are false
Hm, there's some discussion about what it means to be false. In terms of binary logic, statement 1 would be false if either 2 is true OR if 3 is true. But if that's not how you're defining the question, then it changes the answer...
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