EPTDid PirateSoftware really hurt this movement or like, is everyone looking for an excuse to hate the guy? I think he's an ass but I cant imagine 1 streamer being responsibility to chill an entire petition.
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
Did PirateSoftware really hurt this movement or like, is everyone looking for an excuse to hate the guy? I think he's an ass but I cant imagine 1 streamer being responsibility to chill an entire petition. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1994 Posts
It's also much easier to hate on the guy than create actual content on the subject itself because - like a lot of things in life - it does get pretty tricky and somewhat divisive once you get past the obvious corporate triple A cases and start looking at the actual details. Edit: Just to be clear, not a big fan of Piratesoftware either. I'm just not a big fan of the current way of Internet handling things in general either. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10820 Posts
On July 11 2025 15:12 lestye wrote: Yeah I hope the EU can curb this behavior. Did PirateSoftware really hurt this movement or like, is everyone looking for an excuse to hate the guy? I think he's an ass but I cant imagine 1 streamer being responsibility to chill an entire petition. Iirc he hurt it in the beginning, now after all this blew up he was probably a net positive with all the extra attention. He's also just so uniquely hateable for so many reasons, basically everyone can find a reason to shit on him. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
Really hope this Can make positive changes | ||
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ScoutWBF
Germany630 Posts
I hope there will be a new EU law to reflect the requests of the petition. It's so dumb that games become unavailable when servers are turned off. Especially for offline single player games. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2609 Posts
On July 26 2025 07:00 ScoutWBF wrote: Shoutouts to PirateSoftware for doubling the signatures for this petition. I hope there will be a new EU law to reflect the requests of the petition. It's so dumb that games become unavailable when servers are turned off. Especially for offline single player games. Is bolded a thing that actually happens often? I can't think of examples of a game with offline singleplayer and online multiplayer that killed access to both when servers shut down. I can think of single player games that are not playable on modern hardware, but that specific scenario doesn't ring any bells, and games not being playable anymore is a separate issue. | ||
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ScoutWBF
Germany630 Posts
Game got removed from all stores on 2023 and servers got turned off in 2024. https://racinggames.gg/article/modders-appear-to-have-saved-the-crew-1 Other examples would be the typical mobile phone gacha game. Players dump thousands of Dollars/Euros into those, servers get shut off, money is gone. Also found this list of games with always online DRM, including game with single player content that got turned off already at the bottom. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_using_Always_Online_DRM | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2609 Posts
On July 26 2025 18:03 ScoutWBF wrote: One example would be "The Crew". Game got removed from all stores on 2023 and servers got turned off in 2024. https://racinggames.gg/article/modders-appear-to-have-saved-the-crew-1 Other examples would be the typical mobile phone gacha game. Players dump thousands of Dollars/Euros into those, servers get shut off, money is gone. Also found this list of games with always online DRM, including game with single player content that got turned off already at the bottom. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_using_Always_Online_DRM Cool, thanks! Seems like "not that often" is ultimately the answer. Also cool to see titles like Duelyst, an online multiplayer game, lose the support of its original dev studio, but that dev studio gave out the source code and in some capacity allowed the release of Duelyst 2. It's worth stating that always online DRM is stupid (for titles with singleplayer content) and shouldn't be a thing. I hope Stop Killing Games helps murder that as a thing. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4975 Posts
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