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Deleted User 3420
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My doctor, who prescribes me adderall, had me take a drug(pee) test, before he will write me a 3-month prescription of adderall. I am totally going to fail the drug test, but I took it anyways just so he would write me this month's prescription. I figure that when the test shows positive for smoking weed, there isn't going to be anything the doctor can do by then, I'll already have my prescription. anyways, are there any flaws with this plan. also, has anyone else's doctor ever done this? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
D: | ||
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Pressure
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
what business of it is his? can he even make you take a piss test before writing a prescription for a medication you are in need of and already using? | ||
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Scorpion
United States1974 Posts
;D | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
but he is the doctor I assumed if I said I wouldn't do it he would just tell me to go somewhere else which is a huge hassle | ||
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decafchicken
United States20008 Posts
- you will show positive for an illegal substance - no jetpack solution? +jetpack | ||
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CustomXSpunjah
United States1093 Posts
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
"adderal is a controlled substance, we don't want people taking adderal if they are also using other drugs" or whatever which doesnt make any sense but I wasn't going to argue with him | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
I work in a pharmacy.. just recently, we had an instance where the pharmacist called the doctor after some weirdo only bought vicodin without getting the amox(which happens all the time, dunno why he called on this one), and the doctor even said, don't let her have the vicodin without the amox..but there wasn't anything we could do. Even while she was standing there. She ended up buying the amox though, because the doctor said he wanted her to take it. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
so unless some cops show up at my door and take it from me np | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
i dunno how long it stays in the system but if its less than a week i will show positive for weed but not for adderal | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
He's not a cop and you aren't going to get in any criminal trouble for the results. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
Well I mean I do smoke weed while on adderal but honestly I've seen 0 evidence it's harmful over the years, and that's beside the point. I don't understand why the doctor would drug test, weed is illegal for everyone not just people who take adderal. maybe it's what hasuwar said | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
worst case scenario: he calls you out on the weed and tells you to stop smoking while taking the adderall. i mean, it is just weed ;/ | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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KwarK
United States42428 Posts
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
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satanslittlehelper
United States114 Posts
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Clutch3
United States1344 Posts
Side effects in adults * dry mouth[7] * loss of appetite[7] * difficulty falling asleep[7] * headache[7] * weight loss[7] * sexual desire Um, is that last one even a "side effect"??? gotta go, brb going to store to get Adderall for my girl.  | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
im pretty sure? | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:45 Clutch3 wrote: I was just looking up Adderall on wiki... check out this list of "side effects" Side effects in adults * dry mouth[7] * loss of appetite[7] * difficulty falling asleep[7] * headache[7] * weight loss[7] * sexual desire Um, is that last one even a "side effect"??? gotta go, brb going to store to get Adderall for my girl. Well shit... with the exception of #1, it sounds like weed is perfect for counteracting Adderall's side effects. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:51 Ftrunkz wrote: apart from the fact you sound like you live an absolutely pathetic life, everything should be fine... who the fuck are you to come in here and say that? you don't know travis, so don't be a shithead | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:45 Clutch3 wrote: I was just looking up Adderall on wiki... check out this list of "side effects" Side effects in adults * dry mouth[7] * loss of appetite[7] * difficulty falling asleep[7] * headache[7] * weight loss[7] * sexual desire Um, is that last one even a "side effect"??? gotta go, brb going to store to get Adderall for my girl. The last one is supposed to be "loss of sexual desire". Here's one for the prove wikipedia wrong thread. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:52 Mindcrime wrote: Well shit... with the exception of #1, it sounds like weed is perfect for counteracting Adderall's side effects. haha i was gonna make this post;p | ||
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Phantom
Canada2151 Posts
unless it's the cops making u do the drug test...i don't see how this matters to the law.. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:51 Ftrunkz wrote: apart from the fact you sound like you live an absolutely pathetic life, everything should be fine... lol? because i smoke weed and take adderal? | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
it is perfect for it! | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
don't worry about it... just talk to him. he's there to help you edit: @OverTheUnder Travis legitimately needs adderall edit2: seriously, my old man is a shrink, and a lot of the patients he sees are serious cocaine abusers, and one day I asked him why don't you just report them to the police, it would help these people, and he said he was legally bound by doctor patient confidentiality | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Hippopotamus
1914 Posts
The last one is supposed to be "loss of sexual desire". You know what actually wasn't even listed in the article until somebody added that in today. I call {unintentional?) vandalism. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
- usually docs make you sign a "contract" if they are going to prescribe a controlled substance for more than 6 months; they don't have too but it is highly advisable that they do to protect themselves should there ever be a problem. This contract almost always says they can drug screen you randomly without a reason to test for compliance and illicit drug use etc.. if you are a child your parent would have to sign it etc. - you can always refuse the drug test regardless, but in general that means that is the last time he might prescribe you any controlled substance for sure (plus even see you as a patient etc.. depends on each doc) - in fact if you know you are going to test positive, and you go ahead and have the drug test, it will stay in your medical record (insurance companies will eventually know etc..) - doctors usually check patients when they suspect lack of compliance or drug abuse - but it can be purely random if they are following good practice guidelines - if you are under 16 they will inform your parents for sure and between 16-18 they should but some don't cause they don't know their laws - depends on different states too. Also to drug test a child you need parental consent (or judge order). - if they suspect your selling (i.e. diversion) your medications they can and some will report you to the authorities but in my experience very few actually do (its hard to prove plus messy) - they generally just fire you as a patient and don't see you again. - if you test positive for non-prescribed controlled drug, or illegal drug or you don't test positive for a controlled substance you are supposed to be taking that is probably the last time you will see him (they will usually ask you did you take your adderall this morning etc.. you better test positive for it) - drug tests take usually 24-48 hours if they are sent off to a lab, or can be immediate if they have the kit or tester in the office (most don't), if they use a local hospital lab they might have the results that same day too - in which case they will cancel your prescription by phone if you have not filled it yet when they find out - any time you lie to your doctor, is usually the last time they will see you | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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CustomXSpunjah
United States1093 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:46 NotSorry wrote: Move over to California and just get some Medical Marijuana. a good friend of mine who was diagnosed with ADD (takes adderall) also got a club card (legit) because he told his doc the adderall was stopping him from his normal eating habits and unable to sleep. Cure? i think we all know. | ||
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Nickisonfire
United States440 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:42 satanslittlehelper wrote: That's the kind of idiocy your doctor is probably looking out for. A lot of people abuse weed + adderall for the high, which is stupid cause adderall is an addictive drug even if weed isn't. Depending on your relationship with your doctor, he'll probably just try and get you to stop smoking.smoking on adderall is fun, ive seen some mild hullicinations a few times during this combo. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
what is the difference between "abusing" and simply "using"? | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
"This is a list of Schedule II drugs under the Controlled Substances Act for the United States. Required findings for drugs to be placed in this schedule: [1] 1. The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse. 2. The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions. 3. Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence." | ||
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Clutch3
United States1344 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:58 Funchucks wrote: The last one is supposed to be "loss of sexual desire". Here's one for the prove wikipedia wrong thread. Oh, NOW you tell me... | ||
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ReTr0[p.S]
Argentina1590 Posts
On November 02 2007 21:30 travis wrote: what does it mean to "abuse" something for the high what is the difference between "abusing" and simply "using"? ab | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:10 decafchicken wrote: cons: - you will show positive for an illegal substance - no jetpack solution? +jetpack i lol'ed | ||
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Flaccid
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On November 02 2007 11:10 decafchicken wrote: cons: - you will show positive for an illegal substance - no jetpack solution? +jetpack I see no flaws in this. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On November 02 2007 21:30 travis wrote: what does it mean to "abuse" something for the high what is the difference between "abusing" and simply "using"? if you're not prescribed to it, no matter what it is, and you use it you're abusing it. for example, i abuse xanax. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32045 Posts
To op: I wouldn't sweat it. Worst that happens is that he won't give you the perscription and you have to go elsewhere. | ||
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fig_newbie
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Flaccid
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On November 03 2007 00:10 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: if you're not prescribed to it, no matter what it is, and you use it you're abusing it. for example, i abuse xanax. Meh, I don't find myself onside with those definitions. I smoke weed from time to time - certainly don't abuse it. I drink from time to time - certainly don't abuse it. Everything's good in moderation? | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32045 Posts
On November 02 2007 13:52 Slaughter)BiO wrote: People do by adderal though. College kids looking for a way to really concentrate on big tests buy some and take higher doses and it helps alot when you want to cram/get a lot of work done. Some people take addys to get fucked up too.... i really cant imagine why. ive taken it several times for tests/papers and it's not something id imagine being fun. It feels like youre tweakin for coke no fun there =[ | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On November 03 2007 00:19 Flaccid wrote: Meh, I don't find myself onside with those definitions. I smoke weed from time to time - certainly don't abuse it. I drink from time to time - certainly don't abuse it. Everything's good in moderation? hey i smoke weed daily and i don't think i abuse it. i agree about moderation, but i'm speaking from a legal stand point. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On November 03 2007 00:22 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: hey i smoke weed daily and i don't think i abuse it. i agree about moderation, but i'm speaking from a legal stand point. Hey guys learn to read: as long as you're not prescribed to it you're abusing it. Marijuana is considered drug abuse (except in Holland), no matter how much you smoke it. (Alcohol is different because it can't be prescribed while weed can. It falls more into the category of smoking.) Drug abuse doesn't mean you're an dangerous addict or something though, relax. From a legal standpoint you're fucked if you get caught by the cops or something but otherwise it's fine obviously. Oh and travis you won't get anymore drugs from your doc obviously, but at least he's not allowed to tell the cops about it.  | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32045 Posts
On November 03 2007 00:20 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: yeah for a while there xanax was turning into my favorite drug. the only problem is that shit kills your memory. there are nights that all i'd use was weed and xanax and the next day i wouldn't remember anything. and to top it off xanax always gives you the urge to do wild stupid shit like break the windows of a burger king. Even with smoking and bars? I just thought it kills your memory if you drink and do it. Ive had a couple of those nights =p | ||
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uiCk
Canada1925 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:45 Clutch3 wrote: I was just looking up Adderall on wiki... check out this list of "side effects" Side effects in adults * dry mouth[7] * loss of appetite[7] * difficulty falling asleep[7] * headache[7] * weight loss[7] * sexual desire Um, is that last one even a "side effect"??? gotta go, brb going to store to get Adderall for my girl. oh damn, does are the same sideeffects as speed. o wait it is speed. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On November 02 2007 13:58 CustomXSpunjah wrote: Yea weed cures almost all the side effects of adderall, so it's a great combo.a good friend of mine who was diagnosed with ADD (takes adderall) also got a club card (legit) because he told his doc the adderall was stopping him from his normal eating habits and unable to sleep. Cure? i think we all know. | ||
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:10 decafchicken wrote: cons: - you will show positive for an illegal substance - no jetpack solution? +jetpack Hahahahah so true. | ||
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reiterate
Canada25 Posts
But truth aside, i told my family doctor i do all sorts of drugs, but he still writes me scripts for xanax and adderall, i think it's because i've known him since i was born, and he knows i actually need them. | ||
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davidgurt
United States1355 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On November 02 2007 11:45 Clutch3 wrote: I was just looking up Adderall on wiki... check out this list of "side effects" Side effects in adults * dry mouth[7] * loss of appetite[7] * difficulty falling asleep[7] * headache[7] * weight loss[7] * sexual desire Um, is that last one even a "side effect"??? gotta go, brb going to store to get Adderall for my girl. take a look at that wikipedia-article, it says side effects on childen [...] sexual desire. wtf? I just edited it to decreased sexual desire, let's see if wiki has a mistake there or if they're actually right. | ||
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reiterate
Canada25 Posts
On November 03 2007 02:50 davidgurt wrote: Weed is bad for you. Not with moderate use. | ||
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Flaccid
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edit: abusing alcohol. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On November 03 2007 02:50 davidgurt wrote: Weed is bad for you. the irony :x | ||
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Nickisonfire
United States440 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 03 2007 06:54 Nickisonfire wrote: if you don't eat on weed you will lose a million pounds... OK | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On November 03 2007 02:28 NotSorry wrote: Yea weed cures almost all the side effects of adderall, so it's a great combo. no kiddin | ||
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SojT
United States789 Posts
 obviously it helps with the whole sleeping thing as well. The only obvious problem with the combination is dry mouth... drinking water usually solves this. or possibly chewing gum. As far as loss of sexual desire- logically, since weed is known to decrease testosterone, when you put the two together (weed+addy) you would think the results would be negative. However, in my experiences, if it is a problem, i am not conscious of it. In other words, while adderall does protrude on my sexual desire, adding weed to the mixture doesn't noticeably effect my sexual desire. | ||
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drop
Romania306 Posts
could you explain why are you doing drugs? "to kill time"? wtf, there are so many things to do Im not against drugs or whatever, but seriously, Im curious why do you use them, if your life is cool. There are many interesting things to do in life.. like starcraft and diablo and shit ;-) | ||
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
On November 03 2007 09:43 drop wrote: if you dont lead a shitty life, why do you take drugs then? could you explain why are you doing drugs? "to kill time"? wtf, there are so many things to do Im not against drugs or whatever, but seriously, Im curious why do you use them, if your life is cool. There are many interesting things to do in life.. like starcraft and diablo and shit ;-) The same reason people drink, moderate use of drugs can be a fun way to pass time, it doesn't always have to be some emotional or physical problem people are trying to get away from by using drugs. Drugs don't have to be a negative thing o.o | ||
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On November 03 2007 03:09 Mandalor wrote: take a look at that wikipedia-article, it says side effects on childen [...] sexual desire. wtf? I just edited it to decreased sexual desire, let's see if wiki has a mistake there or if they're actually right. Amphetamines mostly increase the libido, so I guess that´s true for Adderall as well. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On November 05 2007 03:50 bdams19 wrote: how do you know he's testing for THC anyway hes not specifically, but thats whats gonna turn positive? | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On November 05 2007 04:07 Maenander wrote: Amphetamines mostly increase the libido, so I guess that´s true for Adderall as well. no, adderall significantly decreases your sex drive -_- not only that, but it makes yur penis tiny :x | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
On November 05 2007 04:48 zizou21 wrote: hes not specifically, but thats whats gonna turn positive? A test doesnt just "turn positive." You have to test for the presence of certain chemicals using different tests. IE, testing for the presence of opiates and cannibinoids is not the same process. So I was asking what the hell he was testing for, but if the op doesnt know then who the fuck can tell. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
On November 05 2007 04:49 zizou21 wrote: no, amphetamine significantly decreases your sex drive -_- not only that, but it makes yur penis tiny :x Corrected. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On November 05 2007 05:01 zobz wrote: If your doctor does tell you not to smoke and take adderal at the same time maybe you should take his word for it. Or do some kind of proper research. Just because you don't notice the negative effects doesn't mean they're not there. Would you notice like, extra liver damage or anything like that? Or would it just sneak up on you in 25 years or so? I'm sure there's a handful of negative effects, which could be easily avoidable by say, doing weed only after the adderal wears off, which one would tend not to notice. Just ask him what the problem is or look it up somehow. eh? I've done research the problem is that i didn't want to tell him i smoke weed because i wanted to get my adderall. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
On November 05 2007 05:17 bdams19 wrote: A test doesnt just "turn positive." You have to test for the presence of certain chemicals using different tests. IE, testing for the presence of opiates and cannibinoids is not the same process. So I was asking what the hell he was testing for, but if the op doesnt know then who the fuck can tell. He'll probably do all the general testing pot is one of the things they definitely test for | ||
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Meowmix
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theroman1994
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
whelp, it's already been bumped, i wonder what that guy said | ||
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riotjune
United States3392 Posts
i remember failing a test because i had a caffeinated cola the night before. while the other guys who were smoking weed passed theirs because they flushed their system with water when they found out there was going to be a test the next morning | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
Call me biased but that's just my opinion. I've taken amphetamine once (I'm no stranger to various drugs) and I've said to myself - never again. It's just my opinion though. No concern for alarm. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On February 28 2019 08:08 Manit0u wrote: In my opinion, if you're taking adderal or any other amphetamine-derivative you're basically a sub-human. Call me biased but that's just my opinion. I've taken amphetamine once (I'm no stranger to various drugs) and I've said to myself - never again. It's just my opinion though. No concern for alarm. Well, it's a really strong opinion! Drugs affect users differently, so it might not be wise to make a generalization based on how it affected you specifically. Actually, to talk about this, back when this post was originally made I had been on adderall for about 3 years. In 2011 I went off of adderall. In 2017 I went back on it. The second stint was a horrible decision for me, I no longer needed the help, but the first stint is not something I regret - I feel like it was really helpful in my development as a person. | ||
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StrongJohn
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pmh
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You should have told your doctor in advance if you want help with problems,unless all you want is an aderall prescription for your addiction lol. But that is not what doctors are for. | ||
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WombaT
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On February 28 2019 09:59 travis wrote: Well, it's a really strong opinion! Drugs affect users differently, so it might not be wise to make a generalization based on how it affected you specifically. Actually, to talk about this, back when this post was originally made I had been on adderall for about 3 years. In 2011 I went off of adderall. In 2017 I went back on it. The second stint was a horrible decision for me, I no longer needed the help, but the first stint is not something I regret - I feel like it was really helpful in my development as a person. Wow holy bump Batman. Think original thread precedes me even being on TL. Personal circumstances differ certainly. I’m on meds myself. I think personally from an outside perspective it’s not any individual‘s medicating habits that I find disturbing but how blasé and widespread Americans are about popping x pill culturally. I was in psychiatric hospital for nearly a year and have had casual conversations where Americans ream off a bunch of medications they take for, no diagnosed condition whatsoever than what I take for Bipolar disorder under quarterly monitoring and blood tests. | ||
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