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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-21 15:21:53
July 21 2023 15:18 GMT
#9981
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
July 21 2023 15:32 GMT
#9982
This is what happens to you if you criticize Putin but you don't have your own army to march on Moscow.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Jones313
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland173 Posts
July 21 2023 19:41 GMT
#9983
Where is Girkin? Where is Surovikin? Where is Popov? Where is Tsokov? Where is Prigozhin? It's like the final episode of The Sopranos
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 22 2023 02:03 GMT
#9984
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4632 Posts
July 22 2023 09:22 GMT
#9985
On July 22 2023 11:03 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2023 04:41 Jones313 wrote:
Where is Girkin? Where is Surovikin? Where is Popov? Where is Tsokov? Where is Prigozhin? It's like the final episode of The Sopranos

Prigozhin being the one that is free is the strangest part of the whole thing.


PigOzhin is free (relatively) because he is popular with the hard liner. If he was put in the traitor category, this would look so bad.

Now they are just adults having a disagreement. yeah right... Sad how delusional this world has become.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-22 14:39:27
July 22 2023 14:38 GMT
#9986
Large series of explosions/fires happening in central Crimea currently.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 23 2023 14:51 GMT
#9987
The Transfiguration Cathedral in Odesa was bombed last night by Russia.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
July 24 2023 16:05 GMT
#9988
To no one's surprise Putin raises the age limit for reservists. He's obviously confident in the success of his w-- ahem, operation of goodwill.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-24-23/h_68fd7fcaea05712c12477cdaebcc0769
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
July 24 2023 18:11 GMT
#9989
On July 21 2023 19:04 r00ty wrote:
Ukrainian grain for Europe is mostly transported over the danube river nowadays. Capacity had been increased before the war already and is being increased further. The cancellation of the grain deal was expected anyway.
It's not perfect, the capacity is not quite there yet and we'll still have price hikes but this will hit the middle east and Africa a lot harder.

Actually, about that:
https://t.me/ChDambiev/24604?single
Shahed drone attacks on Reni river port on Danube.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5847 Posts
July 24 2023 21:37 GMT
#9990
On July 25 2023 03:11 Ardias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2023 19:04 r00ty wrote:
Ukrainian grain for Europe is mostly transported over the danube river nowadays. Capacity had been increased before the war already and is being increased further. The cancellation of the grain deal was expected anyway.
It's not perfect, the capacity is not quite there yet and we'll still have price hikes but this will hit the middle east and Africa a lot harder.

Actually, about that:
https://t.me/ChDambiev/24604?single
Shahed drone attacks on Reni river port on Danube.

Yeah, Russia's not even pretending that it's not a terrorist state.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14162 Posts
July 25 2023 03:06 GMT
#9991
On July 25 2023 06:37 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2023 03:11 Ardias wrote:
On July 21 2023 19:04 r00ty wrote:
Ukrainian grain for Europe is mostly transported over the danube river nowadays. Capacity had been increased before the war already and is being increased further. The cancellation of the grain deal was expected anyway.
It's not perfect, the capacity is not quite there yet and we'll still have price hikes but this will hit the middle east and Africa a lot harder.

Actually, about that:
https://t.me/ChDambiev/24604?single
Shahed drone attacks on Reni river port on Danube.

Yeah, Russia's not even pretending that it's not a terrorist state.

Striking the cathedral is a particularly sickening thing. They don't even consider their own religious houses to be off-limits for missile strikes.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
July 25 2023 03:24 GMT
#9992
On July 25 2023 12:06 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2023 06:37 maybenexttime wrote:
On July 25 2023 03:11 Ardias wrote:
On July 21 2023 19:04 r00ty wrote:
Ukrainian grain for Europe is mostly transported over the danube river nowadays. Capacity had been increased before the war already and is being increased further. The cancellation of the grain deal was expected anyway.
It's not perfect, the capacity is not quite there yet and we'll still have price hikes but this will hit the middle east and Africa a lot harder.

Actually, about that:
https://t.me/ChDambiev/24604?single
Shahed drone attacks on Reni river port on Danube.

Yeah, Russia's not even pretending that it's not a terrorist state.

Striking the cathedral is a particularly sickening thing. They don't even consider their own religious houses to be off-limits for missile strikes.

It's unclear whether the cathedral was targeted or just hit by a stray missile.
Obviously Russia is not interested in conducting ethical war, so maybe the inaccuracy of the strikes is a feature rather than a bug.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
July 25 2023 04:20 GMT
#9993
On July 21 2023 22:23 KwarK wrote:
China hasn’t been a great ally for them in this anyway. No guns, no official dual use exports, Russia already has a UN veto. And why would they be?

What about unofficial one?
https://www.politico.eu/article/china-firms-russia-body-armor-bullet-proof-drones-thermal-optics-army-equipment-shanghai-h-win/
This looks like quite a military support.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
July 25 2023 04:28 GMT
#9994
On July 25 2023 12:06 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2023 06:37 maybenexttime wrote:
On July 25 2023 03:11 Ardias wrote:
On July 21 2023 19:04 r00ty wrote:
Ukrainian grain for Europe is mostly transported over the danube river nowadays. Capacity had been increased before the war already and is being increased further. The cancellation of the grain deal was expected anyway.
It's not perfect, the capacity is not quite there yet and we'll still have price hikes but this will hit the middle east and Africa a lot harder.

Actually, about that:
https://t.me/ChDambiev/24604?single
Shahed drone attacks on Reni river port on Danube.

Yeah, Russia's not even pretending that it's not a terrorist state.

Striking the cathedral is a particularly sickening thing. They don't even consider their own religious houses to be off-limits for missile strikes.

Well, Zelensky claimed that missile hitting the cathedral was an Kh-22. Now you can compare the damage in Kremenchug plant and trade center from last year being hit by the same missiles and the damage to the cathedral. It would have just leveled the place.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11940 Posts
July 25 2023 04:31 GMT
#9995
Churches are surprisingly resilient.

A lot of Northern German cities consist basically entirely of buildings built in the 50s, except for the churches.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 25 2023 14:12 GMT
#9996
Seems the situation in Bakhmut has dramatically shifted.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
July 25 2023 14:44 GMT
#9997
I very much doubt that Ukraine is interested in doing a grinding street by street offensive to take the city the way Russia did. They know better than anyone how bloody that would be and if we look at every previous fight over a city the Ukrainians have taken they all go the same way. They achieve strategic encirclement and encourage the Russians to leave with the city intact. The Ukrainians are a long way from achieving any kind of strategic encirclement at Bakhmut. They’ll do it, but not for a few months as there are a lot of trenches to clear between them and the objective.

There’s also a question mark over what Russia will do in response. Bakhmut stands as their only achievement since the first months of the war. At the start of the war they took a lot of ground in lightening strikes and then in the following months took more by expending decades of accumulated Soviet artillery shells. Since the rationing of artillery started and HIMARS kicked in they have taken exactly one city, Bakhmut, and lost several others. If they cannot hold Bakhmut then the writing will be on the wall for all to see. That may lead to more of the same costly and futile attempts to defend that we’ve seen elsewhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia senselessly commits large amounts of reserves to the defence of Bakhmut to avoid the loss of public face.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
July 25 2023 14:54 GMT
#9998
On July 25 2023 13:20 Ardias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2023 22:23 KwarK wrote:
China hasn’t been a great ally for them in this anyway. No guns, no official dual use exports, Russia already has a UN veto. And why would they be?

What about unofficial one?
https://www.politico.eu/article/china-firms-russia-body-armor-bullet-proof-drones-thermal-optics-army-equipment-shanghai-h-win/
This looks like quite a military support.

Yeah, China gonna China, klepto-capitalism gonna klepto-capitalism. But there’s a huge cap between Chinese corporations selling dual use shit under the table to enrich themselves and the way the west is supporting Ukraine.

Ukraine’s allies say “tell us what you need and if we can we’ll get it for you free of charge”. By that benchmark China is no ally of Russia.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
July 25 2023 21:02 GMT
#9999
On July 25 2023 13:28 Ardias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2023 12:06 Sermokala wrote:
On July 25 2023 06:37 maybenexttime wrote:
On July 25 2023 03:11 Ardias wrote:
On July 21 2023 19:04 r00ty wrote:
Ukrainian grain for Europe is mostly transported over the danube river nowadays. Capacity had been increased before the war already and is being increased further. The cancellation of the grain deal was expected anyway.
It's not perfect, the capacity is not quite there yet and we'll still have price hikes but this will hit the middle east and Africa a lot harder.

Actually, about that:
https://t.me/ChDambiev/24604?single
Shahed drone attacks on Reni river port on Danube.

Yeah, Russia's not even pretending that it's not a terrorist state.

Striking the cathedral is a particularly sickening thing. They don't even consider their own religious houses to be off-limits for missile strikes.

Well, Zelensky claimed that missile hitting the cathedral was an Kh-22. Now you can compare the damage in Kremenchug plant and trade center from last year being hit by the same missiles and the damage to the cathedral. It would have just leveled the place.


Thoughts on this then?



or tldr : "The attack on the Odessa Transfiguration Cathedral ( 46°28'59.09"N / 30°43'52.94"E) on July 23rd was most likely performed by a Kaliber cruise missile with a ~450 kilogram warhead"
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
July 26 2023 21:13 GMT
#10000
Well, supposedly the main offensive has now commenced in earnest:



Other than being in the Southeast, there isn't too much other information coming out just yet.
We'll see how well they can get through the minefields since the spearhead needs to penetrate 20-30km through multiple lines before it's able to advance more freely.
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