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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
November 19 2021 05:48 GMT
#461
On November 19 2021 06:26 Emnjay808 wrote:
We all know how this story ends. Sadly.

Yeah, Microsoft and Sony are looking to tank Acti-Blizzard stock and buy them out for cheap. Dont know how atractive Blizzard is to Sony but if they want a way into the PC market why not?
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 19 2021 19:16 GMT
#462
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
November 19 2021 20:18 GMT
#463
On November 19 2021 14:48 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2021 06:26 Emnjay808 wrote:
We all know how this story ends. Sadly.

Yeah, Microsoft and Sony are looking to tank Acti-Blizzard stock and buy them out for cheap. Dont know how atractive Blizzard is to Sony but if they want a way into the PC market why not?


The funniest part is how blatant the whole "wait for the new CoD to release, THEN make a statement on it" angle is.
Really fucking pathetic.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 19 2021 20:45 GMT
#464
More than 1,500 Activision Blizzard Inc. employees have signed a petition calling for Chief Executive Officer Bobby Kotick’s removal, but it’s a group of just 10 people who will ultimately decide the embattled leader’s fate.

Since this week’s bombshell report in the Wall Street Journal that said Kotick was aware of sexual harassment and misconduct allegations at the company for years, didn’t inform the board of some of the reports, and that he himself was a perpetrator of misconduct, the video game industry has reverberated with calls to end his 30-year reign at the top. Shareholders, employees and even other gaming companies have criticized Activision’s lack of action.

Yet the board said in a statement Tuesday that it’s standing by him. In meetings across the company, executives relayed the same message.

Many people have questioned why the board is supporting Kotick when the situation at Activision has become publicly toxic and detrimental to the company’s stock. But this is a loyal group that has stood by the CEO through several massive crises before, such as his 2010 legal battle with the creators of Call of Duty. The board, mostly men, includes five people who have been connected to Activision for at least 18 years.

Two of the seats are occupied by Kotick and his longtime business partner, Brian Kelly, who together purchased their first stake in Activision in 1990. Kelly is the board chairman. Robert Morgado, the lead independent director, is a former CEO of Warner Music Group who was forced to resign after a controversial restructuring plan and has been on Activision’s board since 1997. Robert Corti is a longtime executive of Avon Products Inc. who has held a seat since 2003.

A fifth director, Peter Nolan, a senior advisor to private-equity giant Leonard Green & Partners, also began serving on Activision’s board in 2003 although he took a leave for several years following the company’s merger with Vivendi Games. He rejoined in 2014.

In other words, half of Activision Blizzard’s board has been together for nearly two decades. Three of the others — Dawn Ostroff, Casey Wasserman and Barry Meyer — are longtime Hollywood insiders who have undoubtedly brushed shoulders with Kotick during his many years in Los Angeles. Kotick has long been plugged into the movie business and even appeared in the 2011 film Moneyball. He launched an Activision film and TV division six years ago.

Reveta Bowers, one of only two women on the board, joined in 2018. She is an independent governance and organizational consultant for non-profit organizations. She previously served on the board of the Walt Disney Co. Hendrik Hartong III was vice president of marketing at Activision from 1996-1998. He’s currently the CEO of private equity firm Brynwood Partners and has been a director on Activision’s board since 2015.

There’s another reason the board may not be ready to show Kotick the door just yet: They’ve been making many millions of dollars together for years. In 2003, the year Corti and Nolan joined the board, Activision Blizzard was trading at around $2. Now, even after shedding about 32% this year due to the ongoing crisis, shares are hovering around $63.

Some current and former employees of Activision Blizzard have described the company’s upper ranks as a “boys’ club” where being friends with the top executives is the best way to get promoted. Perhaps that’s also why Kotick remains in charge.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 19 2021 20:56 GMT
#465
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26261 Posts
November 19 2021 23:28 GMT
#466
I remember Kotick once in an interview complained that potential dates Googling him were lead to devil pictures made by angry gamers over his nickle and diming

Probably should have been relatively happy with that level of negative footprint online
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
kramvti
Profile Joined July 2019
73 Posts
November 20 2021 18:25 GMT
#467
On November 17 2021 20:25 WombaT wrote:
It can be, alternatively it can just legitimately be a rationale for using information that isn’t necessarily admissible in a court of law to form opinions, rather than being tethered to the law.

Exhibit A, a person has settled sexual harassment claims to keep them out of court. Said person is top dog at a company with a litany of credible claims about a culture of harassment at their company. Said person admitted to threatening a woman over the phone. Said person had a company-wide email sent out that was so bad in acknowledging problems that it prompted a walk-out, and he even stuck another woman’s name on it to boot

Is said person likely to be a remotely good choice to steer the company away from the controversy and elicit the cultural reform needed?

Based on what’s out there it’s a pretty big no from me, best case for Kotick he’s not shown a sensitivity and adeptness in this domain, worst case he was an active participant.

Being an asshole isn’t a criminal offence though, and I would apply different standards to if I were judging criminality, or in a jury or whatever.


I agree in large part. To be clear, I am in no way standing up for this guy, or the things that they have been accused of in any sort. Kotnick has long been known to be poisonous to the companies he has been involved in. The fact much of this is finally coming to a head is pretty astounding. (Many of my friends work in the game industry, and I did as well for a bit...it was known then what a prick he was).

That said, too often these days the twitterverse just crucifies people for the fun of it. They are flat wrong as often as they are right.

Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 21 2021 23:16 GMT
#468
did you do a study of the gazillion of twitter posts to come to that assumption?
passive quaranstream fan
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 21 2021 23:43 GMT
#469
Uh huh...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 22 2021 00:38 GMT
#470
The latter half of the article doesn't mince words.

"It’s also said that at a separate meeting on Friday “top executives of Activision Publishing relayed to Mr. Kotick that some employees wouldn’t be satisfied unless he resigned, according to those people”, and that “Mr. Kotick said he was ashamed of some of the incidents that had happened on his watch and apologized for how he has handled the unfolding problems”.

This is bullshit. Kotick took charge of a reborn Activision in 2008. Those “culture problems” he’s talking about are a systemic level of harassment, misogyny and abuse, fostered through years of cultural neglect and at times even reportedly committed and protected by Kotick himself.

The lawsuit which blew the doors off this whole thing became public knowledge in July. He has had months to address this. Instead during that time he oversaw the appointment of the first woman to co-lead Blizzard, only for her to quit after feeling “tokenized, marginalized, and discriminated against”, then saw it reported that Kotick himself took part in instances of abuse, including threatening in a voicemail to have one of his assistants killed.

He shouldn’t be “considering” quitting. He should have already done it."


All basically what we were all saying the scene looked like from all indicators. He always acted like the company just did all of this system-wide abuse without him knowing about it or being able to do anything about it, which was bullshit. It started trickling down when he unzipped.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
kramvti
Profile Joined July 2019
73 Posts
November 22 2021 01:05 GMT
#471
On November 22 2021 08:16 Artisreal wrote:
did you do a study of the gazillion of twitter posts to come to that assumption?

have you had your head in the sand for the last 5 years?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26261 Posts
November 22 2021 01:14 GMT
#472
On November 22 2021 08:16 Artisreal wrote:
did you do a study of the gazillion of twitter posts to come to that assumption?

A cursory examination of the Twitterverse on basically any controversy involving a public figure should suffice.

I wouldn’t trust Twitter/social media outrage as far as I could throw it, even though occasionally it is directed in the correct direction.

Sober and well-considered, and grounded in the facts it ain’t. Not to say there isn’t occasionally great stuff posted for and a forum for grievance addressing provided.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 22 2021 02:29 GMT
#473
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 22 2021 09:21 GMT
#474
On November 22 2021 10:05 kramvti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2021 08:16 Artisreal wrote:
did you do a study of the gazillion of twitter posts to come to that assumption?

have you had your head in the sand for the last 5 years?

nah, I just pick the part of twitterverse that fits my argument
passive quaranstream fan
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17263 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-22 22:36:09
November 22 2021 22:18 GMT
#475
O'Neal was making less than Ybarra? LOL. Richard Hoeg covers this topic is a very academic, middle of the road manner. He calls Activision-Blizzard the "dumbest company in the world" for paying O'Neal less than Ybarra. When you get comical hyperbole out of Hoeg .... you are doing something.



this is so dumb it is hard to believe it is real.

It is clear each successive Blizzard leader is making way less than their predecessor. Morhaime as CEO made a King's ransom. JAB as "president" prolly made a lot, but a fraction of what Morhaime made. The new twin heads were "co-leaders". WTF does a "co-leader" make? Prolly a tiny fraction of what Morhaime makes.

We've gone from an all powerful CEO/Founder to a Prez to twin "co-leaders". WTF? Blizzard is burning to the ground. Originally , the founders of Silicon and Synapse along with their first employees revelled in their culture of chaos. They named their company "Chaos" for a short time. Welp, its 30 years later and we've got a some chaos boys.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26261 Posts
November 22 2021 23:02 GMT
#476
On November 23 2021 07:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
O'Neal was making less than Ybarra? LOL. Richard Hoeg covers this topic is a very academic, middle of the road manner. He calls Activision-Blizzard the "dumbest company in the world" for paying O'Neal less than Ybarra. When you get comical hyperbole out of Hoeg .... you are doing something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKQmY3mpU0&t=882s

this is so dumb it is hard to believe it is real.

It is clear each successive Blizzard leader is making way less than their predecessor. Morhaime as CEO made a King's ransom. JAB as "president" prolly made a lot, but a fraction of what Morhaime made. The new twin heads were "co-leaders". WTF does a "co-leader" make? Prolly a tiny fraction of what Morhaime makes.

We've gone from an all powerful CEO/Founder to a Prez to twin "co-leaders". WTF? Blizzard is burning to the ground. Originally , the founders of Silicon and Synapse along with their first employees revelled in their culture of chaos. They named their company "Chaos" for a short time. Welp, its 30 years later and we've got a some chaos boys.

That’s, legitimately your take?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17263 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-22 23:27:08
November 22 2021 23:15 GMT
#477
On November 23 2021 08:02 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 07:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
O'Neal was making less than Ybarra? LOL. Richard Hoeg covers this topic is a very academic, middle of the road manner. He calls Activision-Blizzard the "dumbest company in the world" for paying O'Neal less than Ybarra. When you get comical hyperbole out of Hoeg .... you are doing something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKQmY3mpU0&t=882s

this is so dumb it is hard to believe it is real.

It is clear each successive Blizzard leader is making way less than their predecessor. Morhaime as CEO made a King's ransom. JAB as "president" prolly made a lot, but a fraction of what Morhaime made. The new twin heads were "co-leaders". WTF does a "co-leader" make? Prolly a tiny fraction of what Morhaime makes.

We've gone from an all powerful CEO/Founder to a Prez to twin "co-leaders". WTF? Blizzard is burning to the ground. Originally , the founders of Silicon and Synapse along with their first employees revelled in their culture of chaos. They named their company "Chaos" for a short time. Welp, its 30 years later and we've got a some chaos boys.

That’s, legitimately your take?

yes, what has Blizzard made in the past 5 years? Compare that to what Blizz made in any other 5 year time period. All the top talent is gone.

[image loading]

Look for ATVI to continue moving dev resources away from Irvine CA and towards Albany, NY. Doing so diffuses this situation and allows them to pay their employees less money. You can pay someone under 100K in Albany and they can easily afford a fully detached house not far from work. That employee can live the American dream. That can't happen if you pay that same employee 150K in Irvine.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 22 2021 23:43 GMT
#478
That makes 3.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26261 Posts
November 22 2021 23:47 GMT
#479
On November 23 2021 08:15 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 08:02 WombaT wrote:
On November 23 2021 07:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
O'Neal was making less than Ybarra? LOL. Richard Hoeg covers this topic is a very academic, middle of the road manner. He calls Activision-Blizzard the "dumbest company in the world" for paying O'Neal less than Ybarra. When you get comical hyperbole out of Hoeg .... you are doing something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKQmY3mpU0&t=882s

this is so dumb it is hard to believe it is real.

It is clear each successive Blizzard leader is making way less than their predecessor. Morhaime as CEO made a King's ransom. JAB as "president" prolly made a lot, but a fraction of what Morhaime made. The new twin heads were "co-leaders". WTF does a "co-leader" make? Prolly a tiny fraction of what Morhaime makes.

We've gone from an all powerful CEO/Founder to a Prez to twin "co-leaders". WTF? Blizzard is burning to the ground. Originally , the founders of Silicon and Synapse along with their first employees revelled in their culture of chaos. They named their company "Chaos" for a short time. Welp, its 30 years later and we've got a some chaos boys.

That’s, legitimately your take?

yes, what has Blizzard made in the past 5 years? Compare that to what Blizz made in any other 5 year time period. All the top talent is gone.

[image loading]

Look for ATVI to continue moving dev resources away from Irvine CA and towards Albany, NY. Doing so diffuses this situation and allows them to pay their employees less money. You can pay someone under 100K in Albany and they can easily afford a fully detached house not far from work. That employee can live the American dream. That can't happen if you pay that same employee 150K in Irvine.

I mean I’m not sure where even to begin with this.

Your posting simultaneously argues that Bobby Kotick deserves his generous remuneration package because he’s a genius, but also that a huge, blue chip asset like Blizzard is withering on the vine from poor management. Of which, golly gee maybe Kotick has some influence in.

We’re not even remotely touching the sexual harassment stuff and your positions don’t make one iota of sense, and fuck me there’s a lot in that domain to unpack.

Not even remotely touching that stuff, which isn’t to say I underplay it’s importance, but in any business acquiring a brand, at huge expense that has an incredible reputation, a 20 year backlog of consistent quality and well, you do nothing positive with that new acquisition except tank its reputation, maybe you’re not all that great?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 23 2021 03:52 GMT
#480
On November 23 2021 08:15 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 08:02 WombaT wrote:
On November 23 2021 07:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
O'Neal was making less than Ybarra? LOL. Richard Hoeg covers this topic is a very academic, middle of the road manner. He calls Activision-Blizzard the "dumbest company in the world" for paying O'Neal less than Ybarra. When you get comical hyperbole out of Hoeg .... you are doing something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKQmY3mpU0&t=882s

this is so dumb it is hard to believe it is real.

It is clear each successive Blizzard leader is making way less than their predecessor. Morhaime as CEO made a King's ransom. JAB as "president" prolly made a lot, but a fraction of what Morhaime made. The new twin heads were "co-leaders". WTF does a "co-leader" make? Prolly a tiny fraction of what Morhaime makes.

We've gone from an all powerful CEO/Founder to a Prez to twin "co-leaders". WTF? Blizzard is burning to the ground. Originally , the founders of Silicon and Synapse along with their first employees revelled in their culture of chaos. They named their company "Chaos" for a short time. Welp, its 30 years later and we've got a some chaos boys.

That’s, legitimately your take?

yes, what has Blizzard made in the past 5 years? Compare that to what Blizz made in any other 5 year time period. All the top talent is gone.

I mean, your boy Bobby openly said he wanted to take all the fun out of making games. He threw in some sexual harassment, death threats, and gross negligence of his duties as an executive for good measure, but he got the job done.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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