EPTOn November 07 2020 00:14 LegalLord wrote:
This will be one of the most beautiful lame duck periods in recent history.
This will be one of the most beautiful lame duck periods in recent history.
It's donald, seems legit. I'll see myself out...
2020 US Election - Page 217
| Forum Index > General Forum |
|
Furikawari
France2522 Posts
It's donald, seems legit. I'll see myself out... | ||
|
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:14 m4ini wrote: Because we "completely ignored" misinformation in the last 8 years? Republicans screech at any bullshit that came from Obama, democrats screech at any bullshit that came from Trump. The hell do you think assaultrifleguy chanting "stop the vote" is gonna care about Biden telling him that Trump is a liar? Everyone else knows already. The problem was that no one gives a shit because it became normality. Uh, Obama did pretty much completely ignore misinformation for years. How many times in office did he point out birtherism as the joke it was and always has been, exactly? It took until 2016 for lies to be called out, and after the debates when HRC did so her margin expanded such that she (likely) would have won the election had it been held then. It's not for assaultrifleguy. It's for the guy who in four years will think assaultrifleguy maybe had a point. | ||
|
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
| ||
|
Drygioni
Japan379 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:33 pajoondies wrote: They also condemned two major news networks for airing Trump's speech last night, not naming them, but I'm assuming it was Fox +1? Anyone know for fact who did so? According to Fox, it was Fox and CNN that aired the whole thing. source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-cbs-nbc-all-cut-way-trumps-news-conference-election Hoping fox news is the first to call it for Biden, would be so satisfying. | ||
|
Neneu
Norway492 Posts
I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. | ||
|
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:06 JimmiC wrote: But if they nominate Pelosi and block her, then it becomes the leader of the house, also Pelosi, basically just a bad joke. The speaker of the house becomes the next in the line of succession for the presidency, but not the actual VP in that case. Which means there's no VP to be the tiebreaking vote in the Senate. | ||
|
Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:20 Neneu wrote: If you actually listen to conservative voters, a lot of the mature voters are having major problems with how the leftwing media and liberal voters are being so demonizing and hateful towards Trump and trump voters (their opinion, not mine). I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. Sure, because otoh, reps are SOOOOOOOO nice to dems... | ||
|
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:20 Neneu wrote: If you actually listen to conservative voters, a lot of the mature voters are having major problems with how the leftwing media and liberal voters are being so demonizing and hateful towards Trump and trump voters. I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. That's because conservative voters only listen to conservative news sources and deem all others as "against them". It's not exactly demonizing to call Trump corrupt, given all the evidence we have. There's no need to bash the voters, but Trump's crimes and lies will need to be laid out in full view for everyone over the next few years. Now that Trump will very soon be out of power, I suspect that Fox News will be quietly telling its prime time lineup to find something else to talk about. | ||
|
farvacola
United States18869 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46570 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:20 Neneu wrote: If you actually listen to conservative voters, a lot of the mature voters are having major problems with how the leftwing media and liberal voters are being so demonizing and hateful towards Trump and trump voters (their opinion, not mine). I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. What do you mean by "mature"? Older? Less inciteful? Responsible enough to not vote for Trump, even though they're conservative? Because if we're talking about Trump voters who chant "lock her up" and "where is his birth certificate" and incite violence and discrimination against various demographics in this country, no one is going to care when their feelings get hurt. | ||
|
Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:20 Neneu wrote: If you actually listen to conservative voters, a lot of the mature voters are having major problems with how the leftwing media and liberal voters are being so demonizing and hateful towards Trump and trump voters (their opinion, not mine). I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. Theres no healing that divide, at least not in a way thats related to Trump. Make an example of him and move on, the only healing that should be occurring is through change that benefits the people Trump conned. Aka NOT THE FUCKING RICH PEOPLE. I'm looking at you Pelosi. Glaring. With hate. | ||
|
m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:17 TheTenthDoc wrote: Uh, Obama did pretty much completely ignore misinformation for years. How many times in office did he point out birtherism as the joke t was and always has been, exactly? It's not for assaultrifleguy. It's for the guy who in four years will think assaultrifleguy maybe had a point. I don't know how often he pointed it out. I certainly hope not more than once. If you run after every dumb conspiracy theory, you'll get nothing done. How much did it help that Pizzagate was pointed out to be moronic? Benghazi? It doesn't matter. It literally doesn't matter. The people spreading it don't give a shit, and the people susceptible to it don't, either. Tribalism in its purest form, you don't believe a thing the other guy says. In fact, you got it worse now than before, because instead of getting their fix on Fox News, people will now go to whats it called, One America something or whatever, making them much less reachable. | ||
|
Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:20 Neneu wrote: If you actually listen to conservative voters, a lot of the mature voters are having major problems with how the leftwing media and liberal voters are being so demonizing and hateful towards Trump and trump voters (their opinion, not mine). I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. Just to play Devil's Advocate: Conservatives have put literally zero effort into "healing the divide". They are the ones that have actively instigated making Democrats "the enemy", constantly belittling them and threatening them in public discourse, etc. Why is it the Dem's responsibility to "heal the divide"? | ||
|
Dante08
Singapore4201 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:22 Nevuk wrote: That's because conservative voters only listen to conservative news sources and deem all others as "against them". It's not exactly demonizing to call Trump corrupt, given all the evidence we have. There's no need to bash the voters, but Trump's crimes and lies will need to be laid out in full view for everyone over the next few years. Now that Trump will very soon be out of power, I suspect that Fox News will be quietly telling its prime time lineup to find something else to talk about. The same can be said for the left no? They only read anti-Trump news and deem all others as "against them". Imo people should reach out and try to understand each other before judging, if not America is going to remain divided for the foreseeable future. | ||
|
LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:20 Neneu wrote: If you actually listen to conservative voters, a lot of the mature voters are having major problems with how the leftwing media and liberal voters are being so demonizing and hateful towards Trump and trump voters (their opinion, not mine). I don't think being strong on revenge is the right way to heal your divide and moving forward together. Trump aside, it's been a pretty common theme that the mainstream (generally leans liberal) media is less-than-fair to the right-wing and to its voters. Your less diplomatic people will say "it just reflects the truth bro" but as it stands, this issue predates Trump by many years and the media rhetoric has been very similar to what it was for people like Romney who were portrayed as a dangerous evil in their own presidential run. | ||
|
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
| ||
|
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
| ||
|
m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: What do you mean by "mature"? Older? Less inciteful? Responsible enough to not vote for Trump, even though they're conservative? Because if we're talking about Trump voters who chant "lock her up" and "where is his birth certificate" and incite violence and discrimination against various demographics in this country, no one is going to care when their feelings get hurt. It's about integrity. You don't get to bitch about people chanting "lock her up" and birthers when you're doing the same. These things are mutually exclusive. Maybe the reason here is that i actually am "older" than most people here (i'd assume), but everytime i read this bullshit of revenge fantasies and power trips, i think to myself "grow up man". edit: to be clear, i wanna stick it to trumpets as much as everyone else, but you'll not see me gloat. Sure, because otoh, reps are SOOOOOOOO nice to dems... Literally Kindergarden argument. | ||
|
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
| ||
|
GreenHorizons
United States24417 Posts
On November 07 2020 00:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So we might see a midday Friday massacre. https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1324730812496027649 Trump's coup is so lame he can't even get the CIA on board. | ||
| ||
