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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 17:43:24
March 09 2022 17:17 GMT
#11981
Indoor mask mandate ending 3/25 in Hawaii.

I’m telling u I won’t miss eating my nose hairs.
Skol
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
March 10 2022 05:44 GMT
#11982
Austria suspends compulsory vaccination mandate law due to disproportionate effects: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60681288
gg no re thx
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46498 Posts
March 10 2022 13:14 GMT
#11983
On March 10 2022 14:44 RKC wrote:
Austria suspends compulsory vaccination mandate law due to disproportionate effects: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60681288


"It comes as nearly 48,000 new infections were announced in Austria, more than at any time since the pandemic began."

So they removed the vaccine mandate at the same time as they were experiencing more infections than ever before, even though we know the vaccine helps prevent infection?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
March 10 2022 20:36 GMT
#11984
On March 10 2022 22:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2022 14:44 RKC wrote:
Austria suspends compulsory vaccination mandate law due to disproportionate effects: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60681288


"It comes as nearly 48,000 new infections were announced in Austria, more than at any time since the pandemic began."

So they removed the vaccine mandate at the same time as they were experiencing more infections than ever before, even though we know the vaccine helps prevent infection?


Correct
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-11 07:57:49
March 11 2022 07:46 GMT
#11985
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Well, starting now, no more masks required in indoor spaces in BC
Vaccine passports still in place for another month.

Slowly getting back to normal I guess, which makes sense given ~93.3% of all 12+ and 91% of all eligible have at least one dose.

Hospital/ICU's been in decline for a month now, even though deaths are still steady, so it's less of a healthcare crisis. Back to normal by summer it seems.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-11 08:07:18
March 11 2022 07:56 GMT
#11986
Meanwhile in Germany, cases are rising again, if only by a little. Don't think the mask requirement in indoor spaces will be lifted soon here, but idk. Even hospitalization and ICU don't seem to be down a lot.

Reasons are obviously that more things are allowed now compared to a few months back. But dropping masks seems a bit too much I think.

edit: I just read they ARE planning to drop mask requirements on most things like schools and shopping centers, but not for public transportion and nursing homes, starting from March the 20th. We'll see I guess.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2013 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-11 19:20:10
March 11 2022 19:18 GMT
#11987
I am in Norway, it was a bit weird that almost all visible COVID restrictions are gone, including face masks in airplanes and airports. There are still plenty of alcohol dispensers, plastic shields and hygiene posters, though.

Even after the virus is essentially beaten, this pandemic will still live on for a long time in our minds and the way we behave, which I find very scary! I even notice it on my own behavior, always asking before entering an elevator with someone, often greeting with the elbow, talking less to strangers... I even tried to find an FTP2 mask as I had to meet up with someone who though they were infected.

Returning to the normal quality of life will take a long time, and lifting the mandatory restrictions is only a part of it. Maybe we will be less sick, but at what cost?
Buff the siegetank
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27462 Posts
March 11 2022 20:37 GMT
#11988
I’m alright if tweaks like wearing masks while sick, or hell sick people being expected to drag themselves to work are more long-lasting.

Working from home arrangements 100% need to be kept as a silver lining of COVID, if they make sense to organisations and people.

Things havenot really kicked into gear for me, I’ve no real intention to travel (first time in Dublin for three years yesterday). No gigs upcoming that really tickle my pickle.

The biggest relief and change is considerably less people playing epidemiology or fractious arguments on the topic, which, partly due to lessening anyway, in part to Ukraine have largely taken a back seat.

I’m sure as things normalise further there will be other benefits I enjoy more, but genuinely my biggest current plus point is a relative cessation of COVID discussion
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2022 20:55 GMT
#11989
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 11 2022 21:02 GMT
#11990
Covid in Germany hits the young ones currently. Up to 8 in 100 four to 14 year olds infected over the last week in some federal states. Source is the Tagesschau website with current infection numbers.
Hence it looks good in the hospitals, albeit record numbers.

Our minister of public health is of a different opinion, urging caution in contrast to the rising feeling that we're staying to get over it.
(Maybe others can add to that feeling I'm getting in Berlin)
passive quaranstream fan
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
March 12 2022 01:57 GMT
#11991
I'm all for more work flexibility. At the same time, I can understand why employers do not wish to set the bar too low for employees to 'get off sick' (whether to go on leave, miss important meetings, defer deadlines, etc). Yes, health is paramount. But too much leeway will result to abuse. Sure, some of us are honest hard-working drones. But there are others who will take advantage of every loophole and make a living hell for the rest of us at the workplace.
gg no re thx
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 12 2022 14:40 GMT
#11992
Do you have any data to back up your feelings?
passive quaranstream fan
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
March 12 2022 19:58 GMT
#11993
On March 12 2022 10:57 RKC wrote:
I'm all for more work flexibility. At the same time, I can understand why employers do not wish to set the bar too low for employees to 'get off sick' (whether to go on leave, miss important meetings, defer deadlines, etc). Yes, health is paramount. But too much leeway will result to abuse. Sure, some of us are honest hard-working drones. But there are others who will take advantage of every loophole and make a living hell for the rest of us at the workplace.


God forbid the employees get a small benefit if it's at the corporation's expense. Its not like a corporation would ever take a advantage of a loophole as far as their employees are concerned.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland965 Posts
March 12 2022 21:47 GMT
#11994
All of my past employers have had pretty strict guidelines that you don't come to work if you're sick, because you'll just infect others, and that's way more costly for the company compared to occasionally having some people be on sick leave. There's also a system where the employer pays for your doctor visit, because Nordic socialism.

I also hope that wearing masks will be normalized.

Current employer is very openly aiming for a hybrid model where people go to the office when needed, but can work remotely as much as they want. When needed also includes things like "I want to socialize with other people".
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 12 2022 22:41 GMT
#11995
On March 13 2022 04:58 Nick_54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2022 10:57 RKC wrote:
I'm all for more work flexibility. At the same time, I can understand why employers do not wish to set the bar too low for employees to 'get off sick' (whether to go on leave, miss important meetings, defer deadlines, etc). Yes, health is paramount. But too much leeway will result to abuse. Sure, some of us are honest hard-working drones. But there are others who will take advantage of every loophole and make a living hell for the rest of us at the workplace.


God forbid the employees get a small benefit if it's at the corporation's expense. Its not like a corporation would ever take a advantage of a loophole as far as their employees are concerned.

I mean, it's just talking points unless somehow substantiated.
To me, he's just venting his feelings, or fear, I don't know. Stating that as a fact without backing it up is where I simply won't follow the narrative and see no reason to engage further than asking for substantiation of said feelings.
passive quaranstream fan
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2013 Posts
March 13 2022 07:31 GMT
#11996
I believe working more from home will be the best thing coming out of this pandemic. It has a lot of added benefits, like fighting the horrors of mass commuting, especially by car.

But, it isn't for everyone and online communication does have its limitations, in education, it has generally been a failure. By nature, we are very social creatures who like to see, touch and smell each other.
Buff the siegetank
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
March 13 2022 08:54 GMT
#11997
Yeah, that's one thing I hope comes from the pandemic. When I first visited asia in 2005, I thought the culture of wearing masks to prevent the spread of hayfever was so thoughtful. I hope people will use masks when they could be at risk of spreading sickness.

I work in legal, and I think the widespread adoption of zoom depositions is a godsend.

I think some good things from COVID is that...a lot of the cracks in society were exposed and widened. Like, inadequate sick leave, how doomsday preppers totally ignored the apparent significant need of cosmetology, and how a lot of min. wage workers are completely undervalued when they're "essential".

I feel bad for teachers because now I think its completely undeniable that they're glorified babysitters. I know they do more than that, but in regards to society as a whole, they are the crux of it. And they need more compensation/love for that.

And personally, I experienced a lot of growth from the pandemic in that I am urgently planning a more extroverted lifestyle, now I see everything that was denied to me for two years.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4456 Posts
March 13 2022 23:06 GMT
#11998
Pfizer CEO claims fourth shot is necessary, is now in process of submitting data to the FDA regarding fourth dose.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/598026-pfizer-ceo-says-a-fourth-booster-shot-is-necessary?amp


Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said on Sunday that a fourth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine will be necessary to continue to help keep hospitalizations manageable and sicknesses more mild.

"Right now, the way that we have seen, it is necessary, a fourth booster right now. The protection that you are getting from the third, it is good enough, actually quite good for hospitalizations and deaths," Bourla said while appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation."

"It's not that good against infections but doesn't last very long. But we are just submitting those data to the FDA [Food and Drug Administration], and then we will see what the experts also will say outside Pfizer," he added.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 14 2022 00:11 GMT
#11999
On March 13 2022 07:41 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2022 04:58 Nick_54 wrote:
On March 12 2022 10:57 RKC wrote:
I'm all for more work flexibility. At the same time, I can understand why employers do not wish to set the bar too low for employees to 'get off sick' (whether to go on leave, miss important meetings, defer deadlines, etc). Yes, health is paramount. But too much leeway will result to abuse. Sure, some of us are honest hard-working drones. But there are others who will take advantage of every loophole and make a living hell for the rest of us at the workplace.


God forbid the employees get a small benefit if it's at the corporation's expense. Its not like a corporation would ever take a advantage of a loophole as far as their employees are concerned.

I mean, it's just talking points unless somehow substantiated.
To me, he's just venting his feelings, or fear, I don't know. Stating that as a fact without backing it up is where I simply won't follow the narrative and see no reason to engage further than asking for substantiation of said feelings.


It's called human nature. People here (before covid) were routinely caught buying medical licences to miss work. No oversight inevitably leads to some sort of abuse.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 14 2022 00:14 GMT
#12000
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