Blizzard bans HS Pro for political statement - Page 16

On October 10 2019 09:42 TaylorG wrote:
imo, nobody here has the slightest clue as to how politics work.... my guess is anyone angry at this has issue themselves and just using this to justify their anger

On October 10 2019 09:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

i'm pretty sure Blizzard only "celebrates" gay pride in certain countries it is not a global initiative.

On October 10 2019 09:33 Nakajin wrote:


Also, she isn't in China

On October 10 2019 10:50 BerserkSword wrote:
Blizzard was completely within its rights regarding the actions it took, and it did nothing wrong.

It is trying to maintain access to its 2nd/3rd biggest market, and likely its most rapidly growing market.

freedom of speech =/= saying whatever you want, whenever you want, without consequences.

The HS player hijacked Blizzard's platform, broke the ELUA, and jeopardized the ability of Blizzard to do business in one of its major markets.

Blizzard choosing to stay apolitical =/= complicity with China.

If the people who are outraged over this want to be consistent and non hypocritical, they should show this outrage to companies such as Apple, Nike, Ford, GM, Costco, Walmart, etc as well.

If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, the U.S. and its NATO cronies have engaged in practices that violate human rights as well. Might as well speak out against NATO countries and companies associated with them as well.

"We should separate politics and sports" - gamer brings politics into esports, gets banned. But somehow it's Blizzard's fault?

On October 10 2019 06:29 chuchuchu wrote:

Westerners still believe that they are on the side of democracy and freedom.
Instead of standing in the US-China trade war and the Sino-US dispute, it stands on the side of the United States.
Hong Kong and the NBA are just a continuation of this struggle.
You are like a high school student.
Disappointed

Is the fact of the statement racial discrimination? very funny. Just like you won't praise me for accepting the Cultural Revolution.
Is it freedom of speech?
When things are reversed, when a Chinese person in turn accuses the West of being racist, it is brainwashed and persecuted.
I am only suspecting the tears of the crocodile. Because Western society is the beneficiary of the collapse of Chinese society.


If I am racist, I will not mention that I love nasa and love Kennedy.
As you are ridiculous about my remarks, I also treat your remarks like this.

You call me the AI ​​of high school students.
Indeed, because my native language is Chinese, using Google Translate allows me to express a lot of things faster.
I at least think that my English is better than your Chinese.

Of course you won't care, but still laugh at my English. Emm, this is what I want to say. Because you are born to think that you are right, think that everyone should speak English and think that you are on the side of justice.

Yes, I said it is a fact, and you should believe in what I believe. It is not difficult to explain why there are always many missionaries in the West, and even in the most glorious time in history, the East did not send a missionary to the West.

On October 10 2019 11:09 Garnet wrote:


This is an interesting take. Can someone refute it?

On October 10 2019 10:45 Yurie wrote:


It was not said in the game. It was said outside the game in the extra content section that I hardly ever watch in e-sports or normal sports.
Secondly, the punishment is not proportional with the action. If the action was a warning (perhaps a minor fine) with the VOD up with a disclaimer added there would be no thread here.
Third, if somebody is of that opinion and made it in the extra section that is there to tell you more about the players to personalize them I wouldn't think it is wrong. I would not agree with their opinion and likely lose respect for them as a person but would not request them to remove the VOD.

It is not hate speech in either case. Somebody going out and saying kill all the police or kill all the Islamic people in China in a serious way would deserve a similar response as what this got. Especially if they pushed people to join them in the actions. Stating support with a moment that is mostly positive or pointing out current political problems doesn't really match that.

On October 10 2019 11:17 RealityTheGreat wrote:

They want to avoid all the argument, but this(Tracer) is not a correct decision.
When the player said those, Blizzard obey its rule, not for politic.

On October 10 2019 11:09 Meta wrote:
You can say all of those horrible things about westerners, and nobody will fire you from your job or take away things you've earned. You can peddle wild and offensive conspiracy theories that are refuted by literally hundreds of people who witnessed the events, moved away, and have been allowed to speak about their firsthand experiences, and suffer essentially no negative consequences at all. That's the difference between mainland China and the West. That's the whole point of why people in HK are upset.

On October 09 2019 20:10 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

A free press is not an essential of capitalism, it is an essential of freedom. Two different concepts. Capitalism only needs the flow of money to be concentrated to be spent. And China and their ruling party understands capitalism oh so very well, which is why they can use it to their advantage.

Their capitalistic system undergoes many different descriptions over time, but the most popular one seems to be "state capitalism" at the moment, if you want to read up on how exactly China has captured the world market with its capitalsim.

On October 10 2019 12:01 BronzeKnee wrote:
Wow, you really butchered and perverted the definition of Capitalism. Adam Smith is rolling in his grave.

cap·i·tal·ism
/ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
"an era of free-market capitalism"

China's trade and industry are heavily manipulated by the state.

On October 10 2019 12:08 meiji_emperor wrote:


China is known as state capitalism. It is similar to Bismark's Germany and Japan from Meiji era on wards. The state directs investment and controls major industries such as steel, coal, railways, etc. but operates these industries according to principals of capitalism: profit and expansion, rather than to satisfy human needs. Other sectors are dominated by private firms and operate also for profit.

On October 10 2019 11:35 blunderfulguy wrote:

In sports, gaming, and exports, it is universally accepted in the west that it is a good, positive, healthy thing to allow the victor to speak in solidarity with groups like the protesters in Hong Kong just as Blitzchung did. It's been that way since my grandparents were born, and earlier. After you lift your trophy (literally or figuratively) you are given time to speak. In this case, the player said something objectively positive and in opposition to objectively inhumane behavior. Under normal circumstances, this would have been celebrated briefly with applause and kind comments theb, likely, largely forgotten about outside of Asia. Instead, Blizzard chose to start a shit storm.

On October 10 2019 11:35 blunderfulguy wrote:

In sports, gaming, and exports, it is universally accepted in the west that it is a good, positive, healthy thing to allow the victor to speak in solidarity with groups like the protesters in Hong Kong just as Blitzchung did. It's been that way since my grandparents were born, and earlier. After you lift your trophy (literally or figuratively) you are given time to speak. In this case, the player said something objectively positive and in opposition to objectively inhumane behavior. Under normal circumstances, this would have been celebrated briefly with applause and kind comments theb, likely, largely forgotten about outside of Asia. Instead, Blizzard chose to start a shit storm.