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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 10 2007 21:28 GMT
#101
On January 11 2005 17:36 Myrmidon wrote:
My zvz is pretty weak because of my bad control and intuition, but I do know this:

When you have around 9-12 muts vs. enemy muts, you DO NOT want to focus fire with the entire group. 12 (your group of 12) x 9 damage (one volley) = 108. Mutalisks have 120 HP. This means it will take two volleys from the entire group to kill a mutalisk (108 x 2 = 216 > 120). That's almost 100 wasted damage. Instead, if you hotkey 7-8 mutalisks to a group, then two volleys from each mutalisk will do a total of 126//144 damage, which means you don't waste much of your attacking potential. Send your extra muts slightly in front to draw fire so the killgroup doesn't take casualties, and have the extras just hit random targets or something. Keep in mind that if your group of 7-8 gets reduced to 6 or less, you'll want to just attack-move or something, as then it'll take 3 volleys instead of 2 (or possibly 2 if there's been enough splash damage going around).

Also, beware of too much excessive shift usage, as if they just pull an injured mutalisk back that you're focusing on, then it won't be too pretty for you. Scourge are your friends, but don't make more than you can control effectively. Getting six scourge to clone to one mutalisk each in a battle is great for you, but getting six scourge to all bomb one poor mutalisk means you probably lose the game (I'm talking smaller numbers).
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-10 21:30:02
June 10 2007 21:29 GMT
#102
On November 05 2004 04:47 CTStalker wrote:
where should we meet to play the games

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19801&currentpage=2#31
in that 2v2 tourney travis held a while back
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-10 21:30:53
June 10 2007 21:30 GMT
#103
Not my first post, but like the 5th one (first post didn't make sense at all)

On July 02 2004 23:38 OctoPuSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2004 15:16 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
i started doing that after abandon started ignoring me for no fucking reason. fuck abandon

heres what i saw. abandon playing a game. abandon comes back to chat. abandon joins game. never answers my questions. never responds to anything i said. for like 50 minutes, while he leaves a game, joins, and plays

u all make me feel like i have to say "hi, xxx, sorry for bothering you" every time i see you. that is not a nice feeling u know. imagine it. u wake up, first person you see:

"hi, good morning, sorry for bothering you"
"hi, yeah whats up, sorry for bothering you" ......


If you know you're bothering him, why the hell do you keep msging him when you know that he WON'T answer you back. I don't think you should publicaly say that your friends are ignoring you. It's not good for your "image".


That was so bad wasn't it? Young fool I was...
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
June 10 2007 21:39 GMT
#104
Sairs can also be useful to hunt down overlords if he doesn't guard them well, and of course dweb counters hydras nicely as well. Usually that's pushing it, but still...


first post and i'm already offering stupid pvz advice =D
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16993 Posts
June 10 2007 21:43 GMT
#105
My first post was in a thread asking for your favorite TvP replay.

"I liked didi vs boxer on char."
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
June 10 2007 21:47 GMT
#106
In the thread "Matrix: Revolutions [Spoilers]"

On November 06 2003 07:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
the ending sucked. this is not because the movie was hard to figure out, because it definitely was not. at least it's a better ending than the "matrix within a matrix" thing.

did anyone find it stupid that they could create ships with gravitation lifts, electromagnetic pulses, and sophisticated docking electronics, but had to use machine guns and reload them via wheelbarrow?

anyway, it turns out that the first move occurs mostly inside the matrix, and that's when it's fun. naturally, the best scenes occur in the matrix (without Neo there, as being God really takes the excitement out of action sequences), i.e. the chase scene in Reloaded and the scenes with merovingian in Revolutions.

i wanted much more in-matrix time in this one... i mean that's what was revolutionary, the physics defying fighting. the ships and giant exosuits with guns were cool but 40-50 minutes of it?? overkill.. real world and xion just aren't as interesting as the mystique of the matrix.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
June 10 2007 21:47 GMT
#107
On August 11 2006 07:11 ilovezil wrote:
damn...i made an account on tl.net just to get a chance to ask a question


From the canata live fan interview -_-
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32275 Posts
June 10 2007 21:47 GMT
#108
On June 11 2007 06:17 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2004 06:45 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I own rock paper scissor


Actually
Strafe[iR] Netherlands. March 25 2003 18:20. Posts 266 PM Profile Buddy Quote
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you


LOL
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32275 Posts
June 10 2007 21:50 GMT
#109
Im embarrased by the first 3 pages, im not looking anymore
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
June 10 2007 21:55 GMT
#110
On December 25 2006 21:07 DrainX wrote:
Back on topic though I think its perfectly moraly justifyable to pirate as long as you still buy what you think is good. Remember, when you copy something nothing is removed anywhere so it cant be compared to theft. Its not possible for someone to lose anything from me creating a copy of something. It is in no way proven that people who pirate buy less. Actualy an investigation in Sweden showed that people who regualrly pirate movies were more interested in movies and actualy went to the cinema twice as offen as usual. If I buy one movie and watch it or if I buy one movie and watch ten... what differance does it make? I gain a lot from it and no one loses anything from it. Its not like books stop selling cuz there are librarys :/


um right
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
June 10 2007 22:00 GMT
#111
On November 30 2002 19:55 ShAsTa wrote:
this might seem stupid or so.
But I thought Blackman also competed.
Did he get kicked out earlier??

from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=802

Yea, blackman owns
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
June 10 2007 22:02 GMT
#112
Hope no one makes their first post in here linking to itsself making an infinite loop destroying the universe
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-10 22:07:51
June 10 2007 22:05 GMT
#113
On October 14 2006 09:08 Kennigit wrote:
...i shed a tear at the end when he walked off to the great beyond

In the VOD Tracker thread - re: boxer's "going away" video
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
June 10 2007 22:07 GMT
#114
On September 23 2002 00:58 iD.Twisted wrote:
bm

!!

rofl


My first.

Omg
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 10 2007 22:08 GMT
#115
lmao hhahaa
why so 진지해?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
June 10 2007 22:12 GMT
#116
"Mondi is destroying his opponents also ... winning ZvT on Gorky with Androide, for instance : >"
BatTheMan
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada759 Posts
June 10 2007 22:13 GMT
#117
"In my experience, going the hydra way can be a viable build and also really fun. I would usually do a 2 hatch hydra like I would vs Protoss to rush him, but with some variations depending on what my oponent is doing. If the oponent isn't carefull enough he could also lose 1 or 2 overlords which really will put him in a defensive mode. And when you go out with your 8+ hydra (while constantly producing) he wont have mutalisks ready usually. One thing that can kill you is mass speedling, if you see him delaying his lair he's probably going that route and just constantly check what he's producing early on. It is important to know of his activites because you don't want to be caught off guard in a flank. Alot things can go wrong when you go hydra, but the more you play it the more you'll learn from your loss. The average Zerg player isn't ready for a ZvZ where the oponent goes Hydra so that will give you an advantage whereas you usually know how to play vs a mutaling player. So just start playing lots of ZvZ and come back later if you have other problems with a context or a replay.

I hope this helped a little, if not well oh well. First post "
aka RichardNPL (RichardNamPhong@Azeroth)
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 10 2007 22:14 GMT
#118
On June 11 2007 07:07 iD.Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2002 00:58 iD.Twisted wrote:
bm

!!

rofl


My first.

Omg


and it actually got worse
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z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
June 10 2007 22:16 GMT
#119
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=788

On November 28 2002 11:00 z7-TranCe wrote:
ho
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
June 10 2007 22:17 GMT
#120
Thats Strafe[iR], thats not me
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