• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:14
CET 15:14
KST 23:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !1Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win1Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO8 - Day 1 - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread The 2048 Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Employee Retention in Behavioral Health: Building Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1359 users

Team Liquid Tournament Winner!

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-28 15:32:46
November 28 2002 12:50 GMT
#1
The Teamliquid.net Invitational has finally elapsed. The finals pitted two players against eachother who we can now call friendly rivals. The Dutch Dynamo himself, Nazgul, versus the Brazilian Bushwhacker, Hellghost. As most of you know, Hellghost gave Nazgul his first loss at WCG, so this was Naz's chance at revenge, and yet another chance for Hg to prove just how great of a player he really is.

Since Hg won the winner's bracket, he recieved a 1 game lead in this best-of-5 series. Game 1 turned out to be an epic and controversial PvT battle on Temple that will go down in Teamliquid.net replay section history. It was a Draw.

Game 2:
Map: Lost temple
Nazgul: Protoss, Hellghost: Random Protoss
The Game: Naz warped in at 6 o'clock, and Hg at 9 o'clock. Naz, not knowing Hg's race did a standard 2 gate rush build versus random, while Hg did a tech build. Early game consisted of Nazgul rushing and Hg frantically attempting to keep his probes alive from Naz's stealthy zealot onslaught. Hellghost survived the rush with minimal damage. Both players micro'd and macro'd very well in this action-packed game. But in the end, Naz came out victorious.

1-1-1

Game 3:
Map: Neo Forbidden Zone (Hg's pick)
Nazgul: Protoss, Hellghost: Terran
The Game: Naz warped in at 7 o'clock, while Hg started at 5 o'clock. Both players started out with defensive builds. Hg did a fairly early safe expand while Naz did two gates outside of his main and an expand soon after. When Hg massed up a big army and attacked, Naz was on the edge. Hellghost seiged up near Naz's natural and both armies were reduced to minimal numbers after the first battle. Hg kept sending units while Naz kept pumping units out of a bunch of gateways.
Eventually with the use of shuttles, Naz fended off the attack. After that the game was macro intensive with many small battles and attacks on expansions here and there. Hg stuck to the ground while naz used ground units and many shuttles. In the end Naz had grabbed too many expansions for Hg to handle, and overwhelmed Hg's forces.

2-1-1 in Naz's favor.


Game 4:
Map: Lost Temple (Hg's pick)
Nazgul: Protoss, Hg: Random Terran
The Game: Hellghost knew he was on the ropes. It was do or die this game. One's best guess would be that he picked Temple and prayed to God he got ZvP on good positions, or TvP on 3v12, as he had been outclassed so far in the match. Alas, Hellghost started at 6 o'clock with Terran, and Nazgul at 12 o'clock with Protoss. Those positions are without a doubt the hardest for Terran to win versus Protoss on Lost Temple. Hellghost used the same build he had been using all tourney for TvP on temple; Fast Expand. Naz went with 1 gate gas tech this game. Hg managed to get his scouting SCV into Naz's base early and found the 1 gate tech with a citadel warping in. Hg begun to make an academy. Just after the SCV died to a dragoon, Naz cancelled the citadel and early expanded. Naz's guile had worked perfectly. Naz was able to expand twice, while Hg was scared and made some turrets along with his scan. After some building up, Hg came to attack but was crushed by Naz's immense army of zealots and dragoons. After that Naz was able to grab more expands, and power like a mofo. Hg tried to take the isle with turrets all around, but was stopped short by a multi-shuttle drop on the island. After that it was just pure domination by Naz. Hg made some more attacks in vein, but was squashed every time.

With a final score of 3-1-1 (dominating the finals 3-0-1 but we must give Hg his credit for winning the winners bracket), Naz wins the TL.net tournament. He may have had a few shakey losses in group play and in the 8 man tourney, but when elimination was on the line, he played with great skill and resolve, and NEVER gave up.

Congrats and thanks to Naz for setting up and winning his own tournament . Congrats to Hellghost for his stellar performance with all 3 races throughout the tournament and earning 2nd place.

Poll:
42% of you (310) thought Hellghost would win. Well he was 2nd place among 16 great players, only behind to Nazgul, so thats a very impressive performance.

33% of you (243) thought Naz would win. Yay, you were right.

25% of you (186) thought Daaman would win it all. Daaman went flawless until the winners bracket finals, beating many of your favorite players (including Elky 2-0). But finally met his match versus Hg and Naz. Nevertheless, 3rd place is solid.

Thanks to Naz, Nash[pG] for helping run it, all the players, and all the interested fans for a great tournament.

why so 진지해?
Liquid`Spy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands1301 Posts
November 28 2002 13:05 GMT
#2
congrats naz, I knew you would win
Im a spy in the house of love
Volchica
Profile Joined November 2002
Russian Federation10 Posts
November 28 2002 13:14 GMT
#3
Victor Congratz!

I love u



But HOT_Forever lose Mumyung.
http://progamer.ru/ Female -_-;;
Liquid`Crystal
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada398 Posts
November 28 2002 13:57 GMT
#4
of course naz won

he took me out the best player in the tournament...:D
andy rocks
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
November 28 2002 13:57 GMT
#5
Nice newspost rek, keep 'em coming

That was your first one wasn't it?
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
ee.Crazy
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil1 Post
Last Edited: 2002-11-28 14:48:41
November 28 2002 14:47 GMT
#6
"of course naz won"
such a unhappy post...

everybody ignores the brasilian power...
and what is a draw?? hellghost has dominated all the map... has more points and everything...
so unfair...


maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
November 28 2002 15:36 GMT
#7
ee.Crazy
even if u gave HG that win that would make the series 3-1,,if u count the +1 for winners bracket, its still 3-2 in NAZs favor. I dont understand how the outcome is "so unfair..."
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
Fear^^
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil1 Post
November 28 2002 15:46 GMT
#8
maleorderbride, sure that made a big difference
u known why...

i don't think that was fair
=/
hellghost won that game
everybody noe
Pomozite
Profile Joined October 2002
Croatia647 Posts
November 28 2002 16:06 GMT
#9
I don't know that HG won that game. He didn't win it and only rule in game is that winnet is the one who destroys all enemy buildings. Neither of them could do that so it is draw. This game doesn't have rule that if nobody destroys opponents building winner is player with more points. There is no time limit so if Nazgul didn't want to surrender that game would last forever. HG could't win game so he accepted draw. If you don't understand that you are stupid.
i used to be schizophrenic, but we re ok now
Slayer
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil2 Posts
November 28 2002 16:11 GMT
#10
Brazil still has many good players as hg, many has possibilities to earn of nazgul
hi =]
sQ.sHu
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil2 Posts
November 28 2002 16:38 GMT
#11
Congratulations Naz and HG...the our brazillian player is a great player
Poleto
Profile Joined November 2002
Netherlands4 Posts
November 28 2002 16:57 GMT
#12
Congrats Naz! But HG won at WCG
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 28 2002 17:00 GMT
#13
"Dutch Dynamo?" "Brazilian Bushwacker?" I think we have ourselves a SPORTSWRITER! GJ + thx for the report.

And gg to both players. This tourney was fun.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Senff
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States360 Posts
November 28 2002 19:36 GMT
#14
Reps messed up, can't download, how do I get around this?
Jesus: The Other White Moses
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 28 2002 19:44 GMT
#15
see replay comment
Administrator
Senff
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States360 Posts
November 28 2002 19:50 GMT
#16
Thank you suh. Are you on MSN? I think mine may be messed up, cause it's saying you are both currently on and not on at the same time. In any case, thanks a million, congrats for everything.
Jesus: The Other White Moses
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 28 2002 20:03 GMT
#17
yes
Administrator
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
November 28 2002 21:11 GMT
#18
fear,
no im afraid i "dont know why..." that game was supposed to make a big difference. the bottom line is in the next three games nazgul COMPLETELY dominated HG. I wish i could say they were genuinely good games and well-fought by both sides, but the truth is naz destroyed HG three times in a row. My point was that EVEN IF u give HG a two game lead (counting the tie) he STILL lost the series. HG is a great player, and i admire him for playing random, that takes some real balls, but naz deserves a victory untainted by cries of "it was unfair..." "you know why.." Because i dont. Has anyone else noticed that every single post that is a complaint about the fairness of the tie is by a brazilian? think past ur natural bias..
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 28 2002 21:37 GMT
#19
What was unfair about the win? Did HG not AGREE to the DRAW? Did Nazgul FORCE HG to agree to a DRAW? I certainly don't hear HG complaining about it (probably because the guy's actually a kick-ass player and knows better than to whine).

Can't believe we're still discussing this...
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
AK-501
Profile Joined November 2002
Korea (South)3 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-29 04:14:06
November 28 2002 23:28 GMT
#20
i knew already Naz winner of liquid tourney.......when i born :D

Congrats Victor

from ur hyung
Be Happy :)
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV 2025
12:00
Playoffs
Spirit vs RogueLIVE!
Scarlett vs Reynor
TBD vs Clem
uThermal vs Shameless
WardiTV1087
ComeBackTV 499
TaKeTV 243
IndyStarCraft 135
Rex124
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #115
Percival vs KrystianerLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings107
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko348
IndyStarCraft 135
Rex 124
BRAT_OK 71
ProTech22
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3883
Rain 3326
Bisu 1678
Jaedong 1038
Larva 661
GuemChi 634
Soma 624
actioN 399
BeSt 397
EffOrt 343
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 338
Mini 325
Stork 294
Light 276
Snow 184
firebathero 172
Rush 146
hero 136
Hyun 92
Sea.KH 64
Killer 53
JYJ 51
sorry 32
Aegong 28
Mind 28
Terrorterran 27
scan(afreeca) 25
GoRush 20
yabsab 20
Mong 15
Movie 9
Bale 8
Oya187 6
Dota 2
Gorgc3899
qojqva2358
BananaSlamJamma333
420jenkins322
XcaliburYe188
syndereN139
capcasts56
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2116
x6flipin654
byalli374
allub272
markeloff72
Other Games
B2W.Neo2087
hiko345
Pyrionflax320
Fuzer 302
Hui .271
RotterdaM138
ArmadaUGS55
QueenE54
Trikslyr29
Chillindude18
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1319
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 16
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV752
League of Legends
• Jankos3046
• TFBlade650
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
10h 46m
WardiTV 2025
21h 46m
MaNa vs Gerald
TBD vs MaxPax
ByuN vs TBD
TBD vs ShoWTimE
OSC
1d
YoungYakov vs Mixu
ForJumy vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
The PondCast
1d 19h
WardiTV 2025
1d 22h
Cure vs Creator
TBD vs Solar
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.