South American Politics thread - Page 42

On September 08 2019 11:46 JimmiC wrote:
No I didn’t and no you didn’t, you said there was US lead coup, which looks like it never will come.

On September 18 2019 07:44 JimmiC wrote:

Other than both being in South America can you source anything that makes the two situations the same?

On September 19 2019 00:14 JimmiC wrote:
I was trying to understand his point. To your point yes US was involved in both, in completely different ways. For example one was a coup one was not. I dont deny things that are actual facts, just your presumptions.

On September 19 2019 00:14 JimmiC wrote:
I was trying to understand his point. To your point yes US was involved in both, in completely different ways. For example one was a coup one was not. I dont deny things that are actual facts, just your presumptions.

On September 28 2019 05:37 JimmiC wrote:
Amnesty international is strongly supporting the UN looking into the human rights violations in Venezuela that they believe are breaking international law. This could be a precursor to eventual war crimes charges against Maduro and members of his government and military.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/09/venezuela-un-human-rights-body-backs-victims-hopes-for-justice/

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United States said on Tuesday it will provide $52 million (£41.6 million) in funding to Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, an escalation of support even as his push to oust socialist President Nicolas Maduro stalls.

Maduro, a socialist who has overseen an economic collapse and is accused of corruption and rights abuses, calls Guaido a coup-mongering U.S. puppet, an accusation likely to be bolstered by USAID’s announcement.

In a statement posted on Twitter, Guaido’s office thanked USAID for the aid but said it would not administer any of the funds itself, given that it has not yet appointed a comptroller.

“100% of the resources will be administered through implementing parties authorized by U.S. authorities,” the statement read.

Peruvian president Martín Vizcarra has dissolved Congress to end a year-long battle with rightwing lawmakers over his anti-corruption campaign, but rebel legislators refused to leave the chamber as protests against them started across the country.

Peru’s worst political crisis in two decades threatens unrest in the South American country and could bring lawmaking to a halt.

“Peruvian people, we have done all we could,” Vizcarra told the nation in a televised message. He vowed to call new legislative elections to let voters weigh in on a dispute he says has stymied his bid to stamp out graft in the ruling class.

Opposition representatives cried “Dictator” after Vizcarra invoked a constitutional article allowing presidents to dissolve Congress. The chamber immediately voted to declare him temporarily suspended, naming vice president Mercedes Araoz to replace him.

But a government source said their efforts were void, since Congress was already officially closed.

Vizcarra accused Popular Force, the opposition majority party led by jailed former presidential candidate Keiko Fujimori, of trying to use democratic institutions for personal gain.

The party has dragged its feet on passing his anti-corruption reforms and last week shelved his bill for a snap general election to end the impasse.

The last straw, Vizcarra said, was Congress’ appointment on Monday of a new member to the top court, the constitutional tribunal, which would be the likely referee in a legal dispute between Congress and the government.

Proposed nominees for up to six of the tribunal’s seven members had drawn fire for links to criminally suspect judges.

“What happened in Congress underscores the shamelessness to which the parliamentary majority has fallen,” Vizcarra added.

Peru’s mining-powered economy has largely shrugged off increasing bouts of political turmoil in recent years, including the resignation last year of former president Pedro Pablo Kuczynski in a clash with Popular Force.

Kuczynski and Peru’s three other most recent presidents have been ensnared in a massive bribery scandal involving Brazilian builder Odebrecht.

Fujimori, the daughter of former authoritarian president Alberto Fujimori, is in pre-trial detention in a case related to Odebrecht.

Protesters gathered outside Congress in Lima on Monday night to pressure lawmakers to leave, while police in riot gear stood by. Domestic media said protests in support of Vizcarra had also started in other cities across the country.

Most Peruvians in recent opinion polls have expressed support for the dissolution of Congress. Vizcarra is often greeted on the streets with shouts encouraging the move.

Peru’s constitution allows presidents to dissolve Congress to call new elections if lawmakers deliver two votes of no-confidence in a government. The current Congress has already voted once that it had no confidence in the government.

Vizcarra said he counted Congress’ appointment of a new member to the constitutional tribunal as a second vote of no-confidence.

But lawmakers, who voted to renew their confidence in his government on Monday, said he had overstepped constitutional limits by overriding Congress’ powers to appoint tribunal judges.

“Vizcarra and his ministers will end up in jail. We will end up in history!” said former congressman Jorge del Castillo.

On September 19 2019 23:29 JimmiC wrote:

Is not massive economic sanctions different? Is not over 50 countries supporting Guaido different? Is Guadio using the constitution different? Is it not different that over 3 million have fled, 2 million before the sanctions different?

This is a legal attempt to overthrow a dictator, yes the US was involved in both. But you are leaving out that basically every democracy that has picked a side has picked Guaido. And it isnt the left that is supporting Maduro, it is dictatorships.

How do you think the world should support people trying to get out from under a dictatorship?