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On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? He is saying that he can call himself Native American because of technicality, but that his kids cannot because of the same technicality. And if his kids ever claim it they would be very bad people. Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of.
so there is no relevance to Warren? i guess that’s not a surprise.
On October 16 2018 00:25 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? If Elizabeth Warren ever once tried to use her 1/32 native american ancestry to make a point or convey a message or damn near anything, she is a sham. Her Native American heritage never played an active role in any part of her life, or so I imagine. Her trying to be seen as Native American is also one of the most hilariously pointed examples of the sort of stuff the "anti-PC" crowd see as a problem with Democrats. For Elizabeth Warren to hold on to the distinction/title/whatever also shows she's amazingly tone-deaf and doesn't understand the sorts of fights Democrats can win.
are you saying she has? or just pre-emptively readying the attack? i don’t want to talk about her native american-ness any more than anyone else but pre-emptively attacking her for being 1/32-1/1052’nd native american seems equally tone deaf as needing to prove that you are.
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On October 16 2018 00:25 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? He is saying that he can call himself Native American because of technicality, but that his kids cannot because of the same technicality. And if his kids ever claim it they would be very bad people. Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of. so there is no relevance to Warren? i guess that’s not a surprise. Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:25 Mohdoo wrote:On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? If Elizabeth Warren ever once tried to use her 1/32 native american ancestry to make a point or convey a message or damn near anything, she is a sham. Her Native American heritage never played an active role in any part of her life, or so I imagine. Her trying to be seen as Native American is also one of the most hilariously pointed examples of the sort of stuff the "anti-PC" crowd see as a problem with Democrats. For Elizabeth Warren to hold on to the distinction/title/whatever also shows she's amazingly tone-deaf and doesn't understand the sorts of fights Democrats can win. are you saying she has? or just pre-emptively readying the attack?
By taking this DNA test, she has done this. The test itself invalidates her in my eyes. I am now firmly rooting against Elizabeth Warren in all 2020 contexts. She needs to get the fuck out if she can't see what a disaster this is for her image in the eyes of a national election.
On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:
Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of.
Genetics do not determine culture. I am half Hispanic and basically not even remotely Hispanic. I don't speak Spanish. But I have likely had a more Hispanic life than Elizabeth Warren has lived a Native American life.
To me, the distinction between what technically counts as heritage is besides the point because culture and life experience are much larger factors in "what race you are". A native american who never encountered the plights of being a native american, in my eyes, isn't actually one. You can't teach a culture you never had an opportunity to properly connect with or express.
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On October 16 2018 00:30 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:25 brian wrote:On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? He is saying that he can call himself Native American because of technicality, but that his kids cannot because of the same technicality. And if his kids ever claim it they would be very bad people. Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of. so there is no relevance to Warren? i guess that’s not a surprise. On October 16 2018 00:25 Mohdoo wrote:On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? If Elizabeth Warren ever once tried to use her 1/32 native american ancestry to make a point or convey a message or damn near anything, she is a sham. Her Native American heritage never played an active role in any part of her life, or so I imagine. Her trying to be seen as Native American is also one of the most hilariously pointed examples of the sort of stuff the "anti-PC" crowd see as a problem with Democrats. For Elizabeth Warren to hold on to the distinction/title/whatever also shows she's amazingly tone-deaf and doesn't understand the sorts of fights Democrats can win. are you saying she has? or just pre-emptively readying the attack? By taking this DNA test, she has done this. The test itself invalidates her in my eyes. I am now firmly rooting against Elizabeth Warren in all 2020 contexts. She needs to get the fuck out if she can't see what a disaster this is for her image in the eyes of a national election. Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:
Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of. Genetics do not determine culture. I am half Hispanic and basically not even remotely Hispanic. I don't speak Spanish. But I have likely had a more Hispanic life than Elizabeth Warren has lived a Native American life. To me, the distinction between what technically counts as heritage is besides the point because culture and life experience are much larger factors in "what race you are". A native american who never encountered the plights of being a native american, in my eyes, isn't actually one. You can't teach a culture you never had an opportunity to properly connect with or express.
Is a black person who passes as white not black?
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On October 16 2018 00:17 JimmiC wrote:
The thing that is extra funny about MAGA MAN, is most of the people here (Canada) would not consider him to be a true aboriginal with his 1/16 and that he decided to get his treaty card to take advantage of the benefits if offers, yikes.
There is a big (perceived) problem here where 1/16 and so on take many of the scholarships and so on from the more full blooded aboriginals. In fact for a long time in Canadian history Metis were not considered Native Americans and it caused all sorts of fights, they basically didn't fit in with either group.
I just bring this up because a guy who just barely qualifies, but is taking advantage of all the benefits, is throwing shade at someone who barely doesn't qualify and is not taking advantage of any of the benefits.
Thanks for the history lesson pal, I'm aware that Metis are considered Non-Status, despite our considerable efforts to protest the federal government into changing their stance on this issue.
I would not have dared apply for my card were I any less than 1/16. Oh, and you casually accuse me of taking advantage of ALL the benefits. Guess what? The benefits I've reaped amount to a single scholarship that still required me to compete based on academic standing with other Metis students. (Given how many of us there are at the University of Saskatchewan, I'm still surprised to this day that I actually won it).
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The issue is made even more complicated by the history of abducting native children and forcing them to "integrate" while also subjecting native women to rape. It's not as simple as blood.
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never mind, i really shouldn’t get in the weeds about elizabeth warrens family tree.
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On October 16 2018 00:33 IyMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 00:30 Mohdoo wrote:On October 16 2018 00:25 brian wrote:On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? He is saying that he can call himself Native American because of technicality, but that his kids cannot because of the same technicality. And if his kids ever claim it they would be very bad people. Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of. so there is no relevance to Warren? i guess that’s not a surprise. On October 16 2018 00:25 Mohdoo wrote:On October 16 2018 00:19 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:25 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way. She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump. https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696 she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻♂️ I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's. to what end? what is your point? she isn’t applying for any benefits of being native american. you’re not making any sense. what are you even saying? If Elizabeth Warren ever once tried to use her 1/32 native american ancestry to make a point or convey a message or damn near anything, she is a sham. Her Native American heritage never played an active role in any part of her life, or so I imagine. Her trying to be seen as Native American is also one of the most hilariously pointed examples of the sort of stuff the "anti-PC" crowd see as a problem with Democrats. For Elizabeth Warren to hold on to the distinction/title/whatever also shows she's amazingly tone-deaf and doesn't understand the sorts of fights Democrats can win. are you saying she has? or just pre-emptively readying the attack? By taking this DNA test, she has done this. The test itself invalidates her in my eyes. I am now firmly rooting against Elizabeth Warren in all 2020 contexts. She needs to get the fuck out if she can't see what a disaster this is for her image in the eyes of a national election. On October 16 2018 00:24 JimmiC wrote:
Which is going to make parenting very difficult. Because since he has his treaty card he SHOULD be going to powwows, supporting and teaching his people culture, especially to his kids. But then they should not announce or show any pride in that culture that he is supposed to be teaching and proud of. Genetics do not determine culture. I am half Hispanic and basically not even remotely Hispanic. I don't speak Spanish. But I have likely had a more Hispanic life than Elizabeth Warren has lived a Native American life. To me, the distinction between what technically counts as heritage is besides the point because culture and life experience are much larger factors in "what race you are". A native american who never encountered the plights of being a native american, in my eyes, isn't actually one. You can't teach a culture you never had an opportunity to properly connect with or express. Is a black person who passes as white not black?
It would depend on the extent to which they lived what someone would consider a black life. If everyone thought the black person was white, and no one ever knew they were black, they did not live a black life. If their parents never encountered any form of racism, and their parents never raised them in accordance with ideas in black culture, nothing about their upbringing had black undertones either.
I believe race is more of a matter of condition/experience/culture than genetics. When I was younger, I was much more Hispanic looking and encountered a lot of Hispanic racism. I have since become very distant from my Hispanic side of my family, don't speak Spanish and people can generally not tell I am Hispanic. In that way, I would feel uncomfortable identifying with the struggles of modern Hispanics. I am not living their struggles.
That being said, my upbringing had a lot of Hispanic undertones. I would say I still identify as Hispanic, but loosely so. More broadly speaking, people who are 50/50 tend to have a hard time fitting in with either side of their genetics. So maybe I am not the right person to comment on this. My Hispanic experiences shaped who I am today, whereas I think it is very unlikely that Elizabeth Warren's Native American heritage shaped any part of her upbringing. Maybe I am wrong.
I am differentiating between the way that a person's life is shaped by race and the way someone's genetics are shaped by race. My argument is that on the topic of a person's development as a person, the way their race shaped their life is a lot more relevant than a DNA test.
But I want to be clear. I am not saying Elizabeth Warren isn't Native American. I am saying that this is a really, really bad thing for her to be focusing on and a lot of people are going to be turned off because of it. This is bad from a voter standpoint. To a lot of voters, being 1/4 of some race is not something to talk about. Many people think it sounds kinda silly when you say "yeah so I'm 1/4 ____" when you don't even look remotely like it. People don't look at Elizabeth Warren and assume she is native American.
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I don't see this changing any voter's minds. If you haven't been living under a rock and aren't a die hard conservative, you would see this as a response to Trump's obsession with Warren's heritage. If anything, it should settle the issue once and for all for people that can have their minds changed.
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FYI: Warren recently debated her Republican challenger and her ethnicity was brought up by the Republican challenger a couple times. The issue is never going away, so I think she is trying to get some control over it.
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It's also inconsistent, if not counterproductive to rail against Warren's "focus" on her heritage using the same language utilized by conservatives who are delighting in how folks have turned their focus on her heritage into their own.
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On October 15 2018 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. EDIT: because of a math error, it turns it she's actually 1/1,024 Native American. What an absolute joke of a vindication: https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1051840505074593792?s=21 Why are you so angry about this?
Because she obviously decided to turn this into a political riposte against Trump as a means of launching her presidential campaign, which makes her fair game (see her Twitter rant today). Thus, I'm calling her out on her bullshit. We're this not politically motivated, it would perhaps be a different story.
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On October 16 2018 01:21 Plansix wrote:
FYI: Warren recently debated her Republican challenger and her ethnicity was brought up by the Republican challenger a couple times. The issue is never going away, so I think she is trying to get some control over it.
I'd want the million dollars that Trump offered for proving it honestly. Not that I expect Trump to pay out.
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On October 16 2018 01:23 MAGA MAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2018 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. EDIT: because of a math error, it turns it she's actually 1/1,024 Native American. What an absolute joke of a vindication: https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1051840505074593792?s=21 Why are you so angry about this? Because she obviously decided to turn this into a political riposte against Trump as a means of launching her presidential campaign, which makes her fair game (see her Twitter rant today). Thus, I'm calling her out on her bullshit. We're this not politically motivated, it would perhaps be a different story.
So I guess you're mad at yourself for utilizing your own heritage as a means of making a political statement that attacks Warren. Glad we got that cleared up.
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On October 16 2018 01:23 farvacola wrote:
It's also inconsistent, if not counterproductive to rail against Warren's "focus" on her heritage using the same language utilized by conservatives who are delighting in how folks have turned their focus on her heritage into their own.
If it was determined that this whole thing was never going to go away, and the best they could do is a DNA test, then I have no problem with this so long as they already determined this was necessary. I only support this strategy if it was determined to be the only way for this issue to go away. And I suppose she wants to clean all this out as early as possible.
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On October 16 2018 01:25 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 01:23 MAGA MAN wrote:On October 15 2018 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run. EDIT: because of a math error, it turns it she's actually 1/1,024 Native American. What an absolute joke of a vindication: https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1051840505074593792?s=21 Why are you so angry about this? Because she obviously decided to turn this into a political riposte against Trump as a means of launching her presidential campaign, which makes her fair game (see her Twitter rant today). Thus, I'm calling her out on her bullshit. We're this not politically motivated, it would perhaps be a different story. So I guess you're mad at yourself for utilizing your own heritage as a means of making a political statement that attacks Warren. Glad we got that cleared up.
He is also a mad at a Senator, who's enough job exists to further the political motivations of her constituents, for doing something political. As if her showing up to work in the morning isn't a political act.
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On October 16 2018 01:38 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 01:23 farvacola wrote:
It's also inconsistent, if not counterproductive to rail against Warren's "focus" on her heritage using the same language utilized by conservatives who are delighting in how folks have turned their focus on her heritage into their own. If it was determined that this whole thing was never going to go away, and the best they could do is a DNA test, then I have no problem with this so long as they already determined this was necessary. I only support this strategy if it was determined to be the only way for this issue to go away. And I suppose she wants to clean all this out as early as possible. I mean, this has been going since 2012 from what I can see in a quick google? Doesn't sound like something the GOP is likely to drop if they still bring it up 6 years later.
And why should they, baseless smear campaigns worked against Hillary, why wouldn't they try it against practically everyone else.
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I've had to dig for some time to figure out why anyone gives even the slightest shit about this.
Then I noticed the right's been picking this fight for basically forever. Nevermind, it's just nonsense.
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