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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 13:13:43
October 15 2018 12:59 GMT
#16881
On October 15 2018 21:52 Mohdoo wrote:
Elizabeth Warren is an idiot if she thinks this dna test helps her case at all. The entire idea of "you may think I'm not native American, but jokes on you. I'm 3% native American " just makes her look desperate to be a minority.

I was willing to give her a chance, but now she can just fuck right off. This sort of thing is not compatible with our voters. Not when Trump is the guy you are running against. This plays her right into a bad side to be on with this current culture war we have going on. Lots of people will roll their eyes and never take her seriously at this point.

I don’t know, I got to call my brother a dumb ass for believing she lied about it. That is a net gain in my book. And ignoring it doesn’t change anything. This way she owns it.

On October 15 2018 21:52 Ryzel wrote:
Wow. Never heard of incels before this morning but if there’s ever been a group that desperately needs to be NSA’ed, it’s that one.

Not under the current administration. They are part of the same shitty internet culture that loves R_D and 4chan. Just another arm of white supremacy movement slowly creeping into our everyday lives.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 13:26:59
October 15 2018 13:24 GMT
#16882
On October 15 2018 21:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 21:52 Mohdoo wrote:
Elizabeth Warren is an idiot if she thinks this dna test helps her case at all. The entire idea of "you may think I'm not native American, but jokes on you. I'm 3% native American " just makes her look desperate to be a minority.

I was willing to give her a chance, but now she can just fuck right off. This sort of thing is not compatible with our voters. Not when Trump is the guy you are running against. This plays her right into a bad side to be on with this current culture war we have going on. Lots of people will roll their eyes and never take her seriously at this point.

I don’t know, I got to call my brother a dumb ass for believing she lied about it. That is a net gain in my book. And ignoring it doesn’t change anything. This way she owns it.


Side note, but I can't wait until the scumball independent running against Warren gets crushed.

Besides misrepresenting himself & claiming to support free speech while using libel suits to silence critics his advertisements are beyond horrible. He somehow has managed to make a singular ad criticizing Warren for her claims about Native American ancestors *and* belittle Native Americans by referring to them as indians (and in a context where he's grouping them with actual indian ancestry) which is an amazing feat of horribleness.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 15 2018 13:30 GMT
#16883
On October 15 2018 22:24 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 21:59 Plansix wrote:
On October 15 2018 21:52 Mohdoo wrote:
Elizabeth Warren is an idiot if she thinks this dna test helps her case at all. The entire idea of "you may think I'm not native American, but jokes on you. I'm 3% native American " just makes her look desperate to be a minority.

I was willing to give her a chance, but now she can just fuck right off. This sort of thing is not compatible with our voters. Not when Trump is the guy you are running against. This plays her right into a bad side to be on with this current culture war we have going on. Lots of people will roll their eyes and never take her seriously at this point.

I don’t know, I got to call my brother a dumb ass for believing she lied about it. That is a net gain in my book. And ignoring it doesn’t change anything. This way she owns it.


Side note, but I can't wait until the scumball independent running against Warren gets crushed.

Besides misrepresenting himself & claiming to support free speech while using libel suits to silence critics his advertisements are beyond horrible. He somehow has managed to make a singular ad criticizing Warren for her claims about Native American ancestors *and* belittle Native Americans by referring to them as indians (and in a context where he's grouping them with actual indian ancestry) which is an amazing feat of horribleness.

He is a blight on the city of Cambridge and surrounding area. The clown spoke at that Free Speech rally too, so it is only a matter of time before he puts on the Make America Great hat and starts a youtube channel about how the humanities are destroying the US.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 15 2018 13:37 GMT
#16884
On October 15 2018 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 22:24 Logo wrote:
On October 15 2018 21:59 Plansix wrote:
On October 15 2018 21:52 Mohdoo wrote:
Elizabeth Warren is an idiot if she thinks this dna test helps her case at all. The entire idea of "you may think I'm not native American, but jokes on you. I'm 3% native American " just makes her look desperate to be a minority.

I was willing to give her a chance, but now she can just fuck right off. This sort of thing is not compatible with our voters. Not when Trump is the guy you are running against. This plays her right into a bad side to be on with this current culture war we have going on. Lots of people will roll their eyes and never take her seriously at this point.

I don’t know, I got to call my brother a dumb ass for believing she lied about it. That is a net gain in my book. And ignoring it doesn’t change anything. This way she owns it.


Side note, but I can't wait until the scumball independent running against Warren gets crushed.

Besides misrepresenting himself & claiming to support free speech while using libel suits to silence critics his advertisements are beyond horrible. He somehow has managed to make a singular ad criticizing Warren for her claims about Native American ancestors *and* belittle Native Americans by referring to them as indians (and in a context where he's grouping them with actual indian ancestry) which is an amazing feat of horribleness.

He is a blight on the city of Cambridge and surrounding area. The clown spoke at that Free Speech rally too, so it is only a matter of time before he puts on the Make America Great hat and starts a youtube channel about how the humanities are destroying the US.



Yeah it's so infuriating. I don't understand how you can simultaneously say you promote free speech and claim to have invented email because you have a copyright for a system called email that you made after email already existed. Like if you don't fundamentally understand copyright (or willfully misrepresent it) how do you have any understanding of free speech?

I wish MIT would just like call him out instead of letting their alumni run around giving them a bad name.
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MAGA MAN
Profile Joined October 2018
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:46:49
October 15 2018 13:57 GMT
#16885
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

EDIT: because of a math error, it turns it she's actually 1/1,024 Native American. What an absolute joke of a vindication:
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1051840505074593792?s=21

User was banned for this post.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 15 2018 14:00 GMT
#16886
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.


It's 1/32, not 1/152. Where did you read 152?
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:13:43
October 15 2018 14:03 GMT
#16887
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

not that anyone should give a fuck about her native american-ness, but she is as native american as the leader of the cherokee nation. so idk, passes the smell test as far as i’m concerned.

congrats on your Métis heritage. i have no native american ancestry, so no, i couldn’t claim it. not that i would, because who cares? let us all pray she does not enter the primary.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 15 2018 14:04 GMT
#16888
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 15 2018 14:05 GMT
#16889
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MAGA MAN
Profile Joined October 2018
0 Posts
October 15 2018 14:07 GMT
#16890
On October 15 2018 23:00 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.


It's 1/32, not 1/152. Where did you read 152?


BETWEEN 1/32 and 1/152, nothing definitive. I bet you Trump could take a DNA test and achieve similar results if we're accepting such an absurdly large margin as being credible.
MAGA MAN
Profile Joined October 2018
0 Posts
October 15 2018 14:13 GMT
#16891
On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way.


She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump.

https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:17:13
October 15 2018 14:16 GMT
#16892
she's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors


Wait I'm confused, she now has the evidence that you take issue with her not having and it's not enough?

I'm **shocked** that your argument isn't actually an issue with what she's said & done, but rather taking issue with Warren and using the claim to perpetually attack her.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
October 15 2018 14:17 GMT
#16893
On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way.


She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump.

https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696


she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
October 15 2018 14:18 GMT
#16894
Well, i am 1/4 Count (two different grandfathers holding the tittle) and 1/4 Russian (also two different grandparents) and judging by the fact that i live in Poland probably also have Mongol blood. Does it matter or mean anything? Not really.
You Americans are crazy with this heritage search thing.
Pathetic Greta hater.
MAGA MAN
Profile Joined October 2018
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:29:16
October 15 2018 14:25 GMT
#16895
On October 15 2018 23:17 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:
On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way.


She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump.

https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696


she has evidence now, so that would be obviously a lie. where does she flaunt her minority status? and nobody but you gives a shit. 🤷🏻‍♂️


I dare you to take your own DNA test and have the gall to apply for a treaty card should your results come back equally as ambiguous as Warren's.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:35:03
October 15 2018 14:34 GMT
#16896
Not entirely sure what the point is in the first place.

Does she get some form of rubber points for having certain ancestors? Could someone point out why people shriek or screech about it?
On track to MA1950A.
MAGA MAN
Profile Joined October 2018
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:37:02
October 15 2018 14:36 GMT
#16897
Oh my lord. Did I say 1/512? I meant 1/1,024 🤦‍♂️

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1051840505074593792?s=21
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 15 2018 14:37 GMT
#16898
I wonder why Warren checked that box in the first place? Could it be she thought she might be treated better if Harvard thought she was a minority instead of white?
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:45:11
October 15 2018 14:38 GMT
#16899
On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way.


She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump.

https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696

Bro, I’m from MA, I know about Warren and I went through her first and second election campaign. Scott Brown brought it up during his failed re-election campaign because his team found a small referenced to it on her professor’s page at Harvard. She never brought it up herself or referenced it before people attacked her with it.

On October 15 2018 23:37 mierin wrote:
I wonder why Warren checked that box in the first place? Could it be she thought she might be treated better if Harvard thought she was a minority instead of white?

I doubt it. If Harvard wants a Native American professor, they will just find one and hire them. The motive being checking it was likely that she was filling out her professor profile and just checked the box because it was what she knew to be true.

On October 15 2018 23:34 m4ini wrote:
Not entirely sure what the point is in the first place.

Does she get some form of rubber points for having certain ancestors? Could someone point out why people shriek or screech about it?


She is white as the driven snow. So people argue, in bad faith, that she checked it off to get preferable treatment at Harvard or be treated as a minority. Because the people making that argument think that being a minority gives you special privileges, or something. It is also an attack that is really hard to disprove or counter, because no one is really specific as to why it is a big deal, only that she is lying and bad because of it.

It is like Birtherism. It is just bullshit the right peddles because it keeps their opponents on the back foot, because it has no basis in reality.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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MAGA MAN
Profile Joined October 2018
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 14:50:05
October 15 2018 14:48 GMT
#16900
On October 15 2018 23:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 23:13 MAGA MAN wrote:
On October 15 2018 23:04 Plansix wrote:
On October 15 2018 22:57 MAGA MAN wrote:
Wow, so Pocahontas thinks she can insult our intelligence by claiming 1/152 Native American ancestry somehow qualifies as being distinctly Native. As someone with 1/16 Metis ancestry (the minimum amount to qualify in Canada) and a treaty card to prove it, I find this simply laughable. By her logic, everyone in this thread could register as being Native American. Also, how suspicious that she only reveals her DNA test now in light of a presidential run.

Considering that this entire thing was created because she checked a box when Harvard asked her for her ethnic background, I don’t think she is try go insult you. If anything, Trump and the Right are insulting you by acting like this matters in any way.


She's been insisting for ages (without evidence) that she has Cherokee ancestors (even though she cannot name any) flaunting her presumed minority status to gain points within the Dem party. She's a fraud. One of the funniest rebukes I've seen in ages is when an actual descendant of Pochahontas defended Trump.

https://news.sky.com/video/digi-180717tu-pocahontas-women-vju-pdmov-11025696

Bro, I’m from MA, I know about Warren and I went through her first and second election campaign. Scott Brown brought it up during his failed re-election campaign because his team found a small referenced to it on her professor’s page at Harvard. She never brought it up herself or referenced it before people attacked her with it.

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 23:37 mierin wrote:
I wonder why Warren checked that box in the first place? Could it be she thought she might be treated better if Harvard thought she was a minority instead of white?

I doubt it. If Harvard wants a Native American professor, they will just find one and hire them. The motive being checking it was likely that she was filling out her professor profile and just checked the box because it was what she knew to be true.

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 23:34 m4ini wrote:
Not entirely sure what the point is in the first place.

Does she get some form of rubber points for having certain ancestors? Could someone point out why people shriek or screech about it?


She is white as the driven snow. So people argue, in bad faith, that she checked it off to get preferable treatment at Harvard or be treated as a minority. Because the people making that argument think that being a minority gives you special privileges, or something. It is also an attack that is really hard to disprove or counter, because no one is really specific as to why it is a big deal, only that she is lying and bad because of it.

It is like Birtherism. It is just bullshit the right peddles because it keeps their opponents on the back foot, because it has no basis in reality.


If she's white as driven snow, then she ought to swallow her lumps and admit to it, rather than insulting our intelligence by claiming 1/1,024 ancestry actually qualifies as being Native American to any remotely significant degree. Maybe in the twilight zone it does, but not in reality!
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