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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 18:18:59
October 15 2018 18:18 GMT
#16961
On October 16 2018 03:14 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 03:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Anyone ever wonder how people like MAGA MAN even find TL? Every now and then, we get a T_D clone who basically screams about the top 5 threads on T_D, goes bananas, then gets banned.


I am sure there are people who are gamers who get red pilled. Or red pilled people who are also gamers



yeah but they always have 0 posts at the time they start posting in this thread, which makes it seem like they registered for this thread lol
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 18:22:26
October 15 2018 18:19 GMT
#16962
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 15 2018 18:57 GMT
#16963
On October 16 2018 03:14 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 03:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Anyone ever wonder how people like MAGA MAN even find TL? Every now and then, we get a T_D clone who basically screams about the top 5 threads on T_D, goes bananas, then gets banned.


I am sure there are people who are gamers who get red pilled. Or red pilled people who are also gamers



Kickboxer never forget
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 15 2018 19:05 GMT
#16964
It's always perplexed me too, because they are clearly here just to unload on the Pol threads without a single post on the gaming side. Even their IDs are clearly made just to comment on politics. Beyond the usual suspects, maybe political action groups found video game forums a ripe field for debate.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 15 2018 19:06 GMT
#16965
A legend in his own time, going all the way down the Jordan Peterson rabbit hole into overt racism and rage against the monolith that is The Left.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 15 2018 19:18 GMT
#16966
Any mods feel like commenting on whether these are ban dodgers or just randoms searching "politics thread gaming" or something?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 15 2018 20:47 GMT
#16967
Scott Walker has an ad out today saying how important the pre-existing conditions protections are, while his AG is supporting a lawsuit trying to end those protections. Politicians are known for lying, but this shit is unreal.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
October 15 2018 21:09 GMT
#16968
I have the distinct feeling politicians just don't give a damn anymore, in the US or over here in Europe. Nobody's accountable for anything, blame gets shifted left right and center.

No wonder populists with easy answers and the mirage if a moral code are so popular :/

The latest Last Week Tonight episode had a clip of Trump saying something like that even if SA murdered Kashoggi he wouldn't stop selling them weapons because look at how much money they bring. It's this for real or out of context? I'm never really sure with that show.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 15 2018 21:27 GMT
#16969
On October 16 2018 06:09 schaf wrote:
I have the distinct feeling politicians just don't give a damn anymore, in the US or over here in Europe. Nobody's accountable for anything, blame gets shifted left right and center.

No wonder populists with easy answers and the mirage if a moral code are so popular :/

The latest Last Week Tonight episode had a clip of Trump saying something like that even if SA murdered Kashoggi he wouldn't stop selling them weapons because look at how much money they bring. It's this for real or out of context? I'm never really sure with that show.

That was the quote and it is in context. He doesn’t want to hurt US jobs over the murder of a non-citizen, as he put it. But also said there would be serious consequences if it turned out to be SA who did it, whatever that means.

But it doesn’t help that we have no ambassador to SA and the primary point of contact for SA is the president’s son in law who’s family is deep in debt.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 15 2018 23:15 GMT
#16970
On October 16 2018 06:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 06:09 schaf wrote:
I have the distinct feeling politicians just don't give a damn anymore, in the US or over here in Europe. Nobody's accountable for anything, blame gets shifted left right and center.

No wonder populists with easy answers and the mirage if a moral code are so popular :/

The latest Last Week Tonight episode had a clip of Trump saying something like that even if SA murdered Kashoggi he wouldn't stop selling them weapons because look at how much money they bring. It's this for real or out of context? I'm never really sure with that show.

That was the quote and it is in context. He doesn’t want to hurt US jobs over the murder of a non-citizen, as he put it. But also said there would be serious consequences if it turned out to be SA who did it, whatever that means.

But it doesn’t help that we have no ambassador to SA and the primary point of contact for SA is the president’s son in law who’s family is deep in debt.

Honestly, I would not cancel a billion dollar contract over a murder either. Especially since there are other people willing to sell to SA.
mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-16 01:13:11
October 16 2018 01:09 GMT
#16971
I'm in agreement with whoever said this is the dumbest "story" ever, but this is definitely damaging Warren's support from anyone who liked Warren because they believed she had any integrity as a politician.

TIL I am more black than Warren is Native American. Oh the missed opportunities...
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24770 Posts
October 16 2018 01:12 GMT
#16972
What opportunities did Warren take advantage of? From what I've heard so far, she didn't really benefit in the one or two places where she indicated that she was also Native American. Also, what is the threshold for whether she was honest or had no integrity?
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 16 2018 02:01 GMT
#16973
On October 16 2018 08:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 06:27 Plansix wrote:
On October 16 2018 06:09 schaf wrote:
I have the distinct feeling politicians just don't give a damn anymore, in the US or over here in Europe. Nobody's accountable for anything, blame gets shifted left right and center.

No wonder populists with easy answers and the mirage if a moral code are so popular :/

The latest Last Week Tonight episode had a clip of Trump saying something like that even if SA murdered Kashoggi he wouldn't stop selling them weapons because look at how much money they bring. It's this for real or out of context? I'm never really sure with that show.

That was the quote and it is in context. He doesn’t want to hurt US jobs over the murder of a non-citizen, as he put it. But also said there would be serious consequences if it turned out to be SA who did it, whatever that means.

But it doesn’t help that we have no ambassador to SA and the primary point of contact for SA is the president’s son in law who’s family is deep in debt.

Honestly, I would not cancel a billion dollar contract over a murder either. Especially since there are other people willing to sell to SA.


How many murders would you cancel the contract over?

That's not even hyperbole, it's a legitimate question to ask given Yemen.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4411 Posts
October 16 2018 02:55 GMT
#16974
Stormy Daniels has to pay Trumps legal fees.
Which means the people who donated to her gofundme for her legal fees are literally paying Trump.
He just keeps winning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-16 03:04:15
October 16 2018 03:02 GMT
#16975
On October 16 2018 10:09 mozoku wrote:
I'm in agreement with whoever said this is the dumbest "story" ever, but this is definitely damaging Warren's support from anyone who liked Warren because they believed she had any integrity as a politician.

TIL I am more black than Warren is Native American. Oh the missed opportunities...

Well I guess I'm here wondering how something can be the dumbest story ever on one hand, but also be serious enough to render that person void of any credibility on the other. In what way does this matter that much? Because Trump kept grilling her on it? I had to search for some time to find anything that wasn't just people jeering each other over it like idiots. It's nonsense.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 16 2018 03:03 GMT
#16976
On October 16 2018 11:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Stormy Daniels has to pay Trumps legal fees.
Which means the people who donated to her gofundme for her legal fees are literally paying Trump.
He just keeps winning.


I guess? The defamation side was a stretch since its hard to prove. Doesn't have anything to do with her other pending main case against him.
Never Knows Best.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-16 03:35:59
October 16 2018 03:32 GMT
#16977
On October 16 2018 11:55 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Stormy Daniels has to pay Trumps legal fees.
Which means the people who donated to her gofundme for her legal fees are literally paying Trump.
He just keeps winning.


The appeal goes to the 9th Circuit which doesn't exactly love Trump so don't count Avenatti out yet.

Also the case ultimately resulted in Michael Cohen pleading guilty to a crime while all but naming Trump as complicit. As well as the release of Cohen's tape, etc. I don't believe the feds would have been investigating Cohen were it not for Stormy Daniels' public disclosure of the hush money payment. Not only that but the feds are now investigating the Trump Organization in connection with the hush money. And that is where the real Trump crimes lie (read: tax evasion).
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
October 16 2018 03:42 GMT
#16978
I actually have to side with MAGA MAN on this one. Identity police are so bullshit. There should be no shame, pride or privilege based on how you were born.

I love taking every advantage the left will give me for being a minority. You guys have no idea how much I've gotten away with when I tell people that I'm a transgender half black, half First Nations, half white male. Take advantage of the affirmative action, use any bathroom, you get to accuse others of cultural appropriation, use racial jokes and slurs or hang out in any clique.

Race and gender are social constucts that must be mocked, taken advantage of then hopefully discarded.
Warren is way ahead of the game on this one.

Anecdotally, I met my first legit Canadian Trump supporter today. It seems like I have to spend an inordinate amount of time unravelling the crazy to even converse with him. How do you guys deal with so many of them down there?
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-16 04:01:50
October 16 2018 03:52 GMT
#16979
On October 16 2018 12:42 Wolfstan wrote:
I actually have to side with MAGA MAN on this one. Identity police are so bullshit. There should be no shame, pride or privilege based on how you were born.

I love taking every advantage the left will give me for being a minority. You guys have no idea how much I've gotten away with when I tell people that I'm a transgender half black, half First Nations, half white male. Take advantage of the affirmative action, use any bathroom, you get to accuse others of cultural appropriation, use racial jokes and slurs or hang out in any clique.

Race and gender are social constucts that must be mocked, taken advantage of then hopefully discarded.
Warren is way ahead of the game on this one.

Anecdotally, I met my first legit Canadian Trump supporter today. It seems like I have to spend an inordinate amount of time unravelling the crazy to even converse with him. How do you guys deal with so many of them down there?

Except there is, and I can guarantee you it's not because the minorities are making it that way. A person's existence isn't political until someone makes it political. Telling people they can't love who they really want to, telling them their real identity is unacceptable, pulling them over and shooting them for no reason, denying PoC their voting rights indefinitely, and for no reason, those are people telling you how to be, and what you can't do, when all you wanted to do is be who you are and do whatever you were doing. That's them making it political. Are you sure you really want to argue it's worth the perk of using a certain bathroom or making a certain kind of joke?

The unpleasant reality is yes, these things are political. But they don't stop being that way until we acknowledge it collectively and address it. Really, it may never go away completely. But it's not the fault of the people who catch shit from day 1 for being different.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
October 16 2018 04:07 GMT
#16980
There are much more than bathrooms and jokes at stake. It is monetary and personal benefits too, especially status Indians in Canada.

As the gay marriage ruling proved, it's unfair to give tangible benefits(taxes, inheritance and other spousal rights) to a demographic while denying others(homosexuals) those benefits simply based on how they were born.

There are very lucrative government contracts if this man identifies as a minority.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/25/a-dna-test-said-he-was-4-black-now-he-wants-to-qualify-as-a-minority-business-owner/] https:[/url]
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