US Politics Mega-thread - Page 548

On July 27 2018 19:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I'm not sure taping Trump is unethical when the guy lies so much. Working with him must be hell, because he might blame you for not doing something he never asked, or blame you for doing something he did asked, while denying he did. You can't just rely on a prior discussion being genuine like with regular people, because you know he can do a 180 without blinking and you are the one who has to crawl out from under the bus.

On July 27 2018 19:09 Gorsameth wrote:
The point is your supposed to tell him your taping the conversation.

A rapidly expanding wildfire in Northern California surged into parts of the city of Redding late Thursday, sending residents scrambling to escape the inferno.

Images posted on social media showed orange and red flames glowing against the night sky. Long lines of vehicles backed up as people tried to flee parts of Redding, a city of 92,000 people about 100 miles south of the Oregon border.

One person was killed, a privately hired bulldozer operator who was fighting the fire, the authorities said.

“This fire is extremely dangerous and moving with no regard for what’s in its path,” said Bret Gouvea, incident commander for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or Cal Fire.

Some firefighters and civilians were injured, but the exact number was not yet known, Chief Gouvea said.

At 10:30 p.m., a news anchor at KRCR-TV, an ABC-affiliated television station in Redding, abruptly announced that the station was under evacuation orders.

“Right now we are being evacuated and that’s why we are kind of closing out right now,” said the anchor, Allison Woods. “We are going to leave the station because it is now unsafe to be here.”

The fire was started Monday by “mechanical failure of a vehicle” in the Whiskeytown National Recreation Area, Cal Fire said in a report, without elaborating.

By late Wednesday the fire, known as the Carr Fire, had engulfed 6,700 acres. It expanded to 20,000 acres by Thursday morning and to more than 28,000 acres by Thursday evening, with just 6 percent of it contained.

Hot, dry weather fueled the fire. The temperature peaked at 113 degrees in Redding on Thursday and hovered around 90 late Thursday night.

“Tonight it blew up and blew into the city limits of the city of Redding,” said Scott McLean, a spokesman for Cal Fire.

Multiple structures were on fire on the west side of the city, and the speed of the blaze’s expansion recalled the deadly wildfires north of San Francisco last year.

“This fire is just extremely dynamic,” Mr. McLean said. “We really haven’t seen anything like this except for last year on the Tubbs.”

The Tubbs fire, wind-driven blazes that ravaged Sonoma and Napa Counties, killed 22 people and destroyed more than 5,500 structures, making it the most destructive wildfire in California history.

That disaster raised questions about emergency alert and evacuation systems for fast-moving fires. Sonoma, Napa and other counties used alert systems that send text messages to mobile phones. But those warnings generally go only to the people who have signed up to receive them, and the fires knocked out cellular service in many areas.

The authorities then described a chaotic scramble to evacuate residents. Similar situations were reported on social media on Thursday night in the Redding area.

The weather conditions that fostered the surging flames in Redding — blistering temperatures, low humidity and a steady wind — are expected to continue on Friday.

In addition to the Carr fire, large wildfires are burning in Central and Southern California. The Ferguson fire caused the largest closing of Yosemite National Park in 30 years, and the Cranston fire is only 5 percent contained in the San Jacinto Mountains in Southern California.

A man suspected of starting the Cranston fire was arrested on Wednesday night and charged with five counts of arson to wildland.

On July 27 2018 18:32 GreenHorizons wrote:


In 2014 none of that would surprise anyone. I find it hard to believe anyone is actually surprised. So basically you have the rumor (pretty much anyone would have believed before he became president) becoming slightly more real and specific. No that's not news, that's tabloid trash at least imo.

If they are allegedly tied to campaign finance violations, lucky for Trump they are basically worthless in that they have to prove Trump (who everyone thinks is an idiot) fully grasped that it would be illegal and have intentionally broke the law.

Remember when this all started and I said he was going to eventually get his "extremely careless" pass? That's where all that would fall anyway. If Comey didn't think you could prove intention with Hillary's server there's no way anyone can prove Trump understood campaign finance law and intentionally broke it.

I know I'm always telling you guys to calm down and that whatever the latest thing is will not end Trump but I just have to say it's not because I don't think he should be locked under the worst prison in the country, it's because every single sign is flashing in bright neon that it's not happening.

On July 27 2018 19:28 Plansix wrote:

It is perfectly legal in NY, so there is that. It is bad to do if you are an attorney taping your client without their knowledge. Like getting disbarred bad. But legal otherwise.

And reporters do not give a fuck at all about how the tape was made. No news organizations have or ever will. There is nothing unethical about it.

actually I was talking about running an anonymous source for no stated reason. Of course we should all know it was for ad money pure and simple. It's journalism ethics 101, So I don't think I would put much credibility in any "serious" publication that doesn't mention it.

On July 27 2018 20:00 iamthedave wrote:


Nobody is surprised, but confirmation makes a difference. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about one affair. If Trump's going to lie about... three? Four?

Surely that makes sense as a matter of interest, yes?

On July 27 2018 22:43 JimmiC wrote:
Pakistan elected it's first leader not from the traditional power families. Khan who won has rallied against corruption, which is good because there is lots there, but the sad part is has allied with the most corrupt group their, the military.

Things for the US are not going to get easier as he is also very anti USA. He is described as a loose cannon who will be hard for the military to control.

He did not win enough for a majority government and will have to form a coalition with some of the minor parties as he will not join with the two majors who had run the country forever(not really but close).

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-next-prime-minister-of-nuclear-armed-pakistan-really-hates-the-us/ar-BBL74ol?li=AAggNb9

On July 27 2018 23:43 JimmiC wrote:


I think most politicians do this. It just stands out because Trump does it so much bigger and with so much more aggression than anyone before him.

On July 27 2018 22:33 Womwomwom wrote:
We've got a 4.1% GDP estimate for Q2. According to Bloomberg, 0.6% of that GDP figure are from people trying to beat the soybean tariffs alone.