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If a crazy guy covered in Nazi tattoos goes on a shooting spree in a predominantly black neighborhood and hits 100 black people and 1 white guy, would you say "he can't be racist, look he hit a white guy too"?
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Yeah I can see someone dedicated to the removal of "brown" people doing it by advocating for removal of "illegal immigrants" and sticking to their guns when their net catches some "non-brown" people.
Also, the decision-makers give orders without necessarily reviewing each case and saying "oh, this isn't what we meant, let them go" so the agents on-the-ground just treat them all the same.
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On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative.
Sometimes things 'go against the narrative' and don't even slightly invalidate said narrative.
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On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative. Show nested quote +On June 14 2025 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Radical moderate blackjack never heard of the night of the long knives what a surprise. It's like when portnoy wanted to keep the people who were antisemitic private so they could take a trip to Germany to see auschwitz. The administration that's showing unwavering support to provide arms and intelligence to the Jewish state and refusing visas to anyone critical of Israel must be keeping their anti semitism really really low-key.
We all make mistakes, even Trump. Fortunately, if this individual can afford a million dollar lunch with Trump, he can probably wish all his problems away. Trump will remember that Denmark is one of those 'good' countries.
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I mean, does it go against the narrative? Far-rightists/racial supremacists are pretty infamous for committing a lot of friendly fire throughout history. That's part of the reason why educated people widely view them as idiots.
One of the funniest jokes I've ever heard was someone, commenting in 2020 on Tucker Carlson's COVID denial and recommending cattle dewormer: "Hate the guy all you want, he's definitely killed more Nazis than any Democrats have this year."
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On June 15 2025 02:59 LightSpectra wrote:
If a crazy guy covered in Nazi tattoos goes on a shooting spree in a predominantly black neighborhood and hits 100 black people and 1 white guy, would you say "he can't be racist, look he hit a white guy too"?
Illegal immigrants are predominately brown. You can't enforce immigration law without it predominantly affecting brown people. We might as well just skip ahead here to the point that enforcing borders is racist.
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On June 15 2025 03:23 LightSpectra wrote:
I mean, does it go against the narrative? Far-rightists/racial supremacists are pretty infamous for committing a lot of friendly fire throughout history. That's part of the reason why educated people widely view them as idiots.
I'm accepting blackjack at his word that the narrative is that ICE raids are targeting people based on skin colour.
Even given that, pointing to an example of that not happening doesn't lessen the strength of the narrative.
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On June 15 2025 03:24 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 02:59 LightSpectra wrote:
If a crazy guy covered in Nazi tattoos goes on a shooting spree in a predominantly black neighborhood and hits 100 black people and 1 white guy, would you say "he can't be racist, look he hit a white guy too"? Illegal immigrants are predominately brown. You can't enforce immigration law without it predominantly affecting brown people. We might as well just skip ahead here to the point that enforcing borders is racist.
I notice you didn't actually answer my question.
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On June 15 2025 03:23 Fleetfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative. On June 14 2025 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Radical moderate blackjack never heard of the night of the long knives what a surprise. It's like when portnoy wanted to keep the people who were antisemitic private so they could take a trip to Germany to see auschwitz. The administration that's showing unwavering support to provide arms and intelligence to the Jewish state and refusing visas to anyone critical of Israel must be keeping their anti semitism really really low-key. We all make mistakes, even Trump. Fortunately, if this individual can afford a million dollar lunch with Trump, he can probably wish all his problems away. Trump will remember that Denmark is one of those 'good' countries.
MP posted a video of a 19 year old non-citizen that was detained by ICE testifying before Congress, despite her brownness and not having a million dollars to bribe Trump with. Not only was she not deported (yet) but she was able to escape the camps and allowed to testify against the very totalitarian regime trying to disappear her. Apparently her father has also been released from ICE detention and is freely talking to the media. Safe to say these Nazis suck at Nazi-ing.
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On June 15 2025 04:36 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 03:23 Fleetfeet wrote:On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative. On June 14 2025 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Radical moderate blackjack never heard of the night of the long knives what a surprise. It's like when portnoy wanted to keep the people who were antisemitic private so they could take a trip to Germany to see auschwitz. The administration that's showing unwavering support to provide arms and intelligence to the Jewish state and refusing visas to anyone critical of Israel must be keeping their anti semitism really really low-key. We all make mistakes, even Trump. Fortunately, if this individual can afford a million dollar lunch with Trump, he can probably wish all his problems away. Trump will remember that Denmark is one of those 'good' countries. MP posted a video of a 19 year old non-citizen that was detained by ICE testifying before Congress, despite her brownness and not having a million dollars to bribe Trump with. Not only was she not deported (yet) but she was able to escape the camps and allowed to testify against the very totalitarian regime trying to disappear her. Apparently her father has also been released from ICE detention and is freely talking to the media. Safe to say these Nazis suck at Nazi-ing.
MP has also posted videos about white people in the past, so it's safe to declare they're not racist.
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"modern fascists are less competent than the original Nazis" dissuades neither fascists nor antifascists, so I'm not sure who you're trying to appeal to with that argument
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Learning more about a suspect for these assassinations in Minnesota
Authorities are looking for 57-year-old Vance Boelter in connection with the shootings, multiple sources told The Associated Press. Boelter was appointed by Gov. Mark Dayton in 2016, then reappointed by Gov. Tim Walz in 2019 as a private sector representative to the governor's workforce council, with the term expiring in 2023.
Boelter has a PhD in education and was previously appointed by two Minnesota governors to the Workforce Development Board.
Boelter has extensive experience in security operations. His current employment includes being the director of security patrols at Praetorian Guard Security Services, a security company based in the Twin Cities metro. The company provides a variety of armed home security services, including residential security patrols, uniformed armed security and event security services, according to their website.
The company website highlights that Boelter has experience with security situations in Eastern Europe, Africa, North America and the Middle East – including the Gaza Strip.
www.fox9.com
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On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative. Show nested quote +On June 14 2025 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Radical moderate blackjack never heard of the night of the long knives what a surprise. It's like when portnoy wanted to keep the people who were antisemitic private so they could take a trip to Germany to see auschwitz. The administration that's showing unwavering support to provide arms and intelligence to the Jewish state and refusing visas to anyone critical of Israel must be keeping their anti semitism really really low-key.
It is much easier to show no empathy to a person who is considered a second class citizen or in some instances a non-person (sub-human). Deportation rates are far higher for - you guessed it - minority groups such as Mexicans. Now can you guess which president has rallied against Mexicans in recent history and shown no empathy towards them?
It follows that a mass deportation campaign under Trump is caused, in part, by racism. He has actively targeted Mexicans. We're not fabricating this, it's been Trump's rhetoric for at least a decade. The lack of empathy towards migrants is, in part, connected to his anti-Mexican rhetoric. Racism is fundamental in his mass deportation campaign.
If you don't understand this reasoning, then it makes sense why you wouldn't understand virtually anyone in this thread who disagrees with you.
On June 15 2025 04:36 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 03:23 Fleetfeet wrote:On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative. On June 14 2025 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Radical moderate blackjack never heard of the night of the long knives what a surprise. It's like when portnoy wanted to keep the people who were antisemitic private so they could take a trip to Germany to see auschwitz. The administration that's showing unwavering support to provide arms and intelligence to the Jewish state and refusing visas to anyone critical of Israel must be keeping their anti semitism really really low-key. We all make mistakes, even Trump. Fortunately, if this individual can afford a million dollar lunch with Trump, he can probably wish all his problems away. Trump will remember that Denmark is one of those 'good' countries. MP posted a video of a 19 year old non-citizen that was detained by ICE testifying before Congress, despite her brownness and not having a million dollars to bribe Trump with. Not only was she not deported (yet) but she was able to escape the camps and allowed to testify against the very totalitarian regime trying to disappear her. Apparently her father has also been released from ICE detention and is freely talking to the media. Safe to say these Nazis suck at Nazi-ing.
She should've never had to end up detained and going to court to begin with. She should've been free from all persecution, this should've never even been a question.
The necessity of this is due to the racism of the administration. Racism from above comes not solely from Trump's administration but also from previous administrations and from other decision makers in general - but Trump's administration is without a doubt leading the charge. His racism is supercharged and now we have a supercharged racist ICE.
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On June 15 2025 04:36 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2025 03:23 Fleetfeet wrote:On June 15 2025 02:48 BlackJack wrote:On June 15 2025 00:49 KwarK wrote:On June 14 2025 14:40 BlackJack wrote:On June 14 2025 09:20 KwarK wrote:There's this Danish green card holding American called Kasper Eriksen in the US who is extremely into Donald Trump, to the tune of over 2,000 social media posts about much he loves Trump. He married an American woman but failed to submit form I-751 (petition to remove conditions on residence) in 2015. Incidentally I submitted that form in 2013, anyway, he forgot and so his immigration process was incomplete. In 2019 the Trump administration issued a deportation order against him but were unable to reach him to let him know and so he remained in limbo. He remained in the country illegally due to an administrative error but was unaware that he was in the country illegally. That's absolutely on him, you're required to make sure that USCIS know where you live but whatever. In 2020 Biden won and efforts to deport him were paused. He applied for his green card (legal permanent resident) and was granted it. He continued to whine constantly about Biden and illegal immigrants and simp for Trump to do something about them. By 2024 he's been a legal permanent resident for long enough that he can apply for naturalization and he does so. What he doesn't realize is that under the old administration the legal permanent resident status was presumed to trump the 2019 deportation order whereas the new administration has a quota to fill. The new administration tells him all his paperwork is in order, gives him a scheduled interview date, and confirms it's all good to go. He shows up at his naturalization hearing with his American wife who is pregnant with their fourth child believing it's a routine part of the process because it is and he's literally a legal permanent resident of the United States. However the interviewer isn't there, it's the US Marshals. Chains go on and he's off to the holding facility. Fortunately for him he was able to stay in touch with his family because the holding facility has contracted with a private telecommunications company that dictates pay per minute rates for phone calls so he can still speak with his children until the money runs out. And once he's back in Denmark then he can read them bedtime stories for the price of a zoom. And at least it's clear to him who is to blame for his predicament. He explains The reason I'm sitting here is more or less a product of the Biden Administration. They were the ones who let me go through this process without saying there was a problem. They didn't keep an eye on it. It wasn't until Trump that things got sorted out His wife, who does not work and relied upon him for her income, has moved the family into a RV and they are currently living on gofundmes. She explains that they still absolutely support Trump's immigration policies. There is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They're broken. Crazy anecdote of just how far gone some of these Trumpers are but the story of the white guy from Denmark that made 4 white babies also being a target for deportation is a buzzkill for some of the other narratives we got going on here I woke up and remembered this gotcha and it's still funny. You genuinely went with "how can they be Nazis if they're hurting white people" and thought you'd made a good argument. This guy literally forgot the entire of World War 2. The narrative I was referring to is that people are being deported chiefly because they are brown and not chiefly because they are here illegally. Deporting the white Trump loyalist who made 4 white anchor babies back to Denmark because he didn't file a form 10 years ago kind of goes against that narrative. On June 14 2025 23:29 Sermokala wrote:
Radical moderate blackjack never heard of the night of the long knives what a surprise. It's like when portnoy wanted to keep the people who were antisemitic private so they could take a trip to Germany to see auschwitz. The administration that's showing unwavering support to provide arms and intelligence to the Jewish state and refusing visas to anyone critical of Israel must be keeping their anti semitism really really low-key. We all make mistakes, even Trump. Fortunately, if this individual can afford a million dollar lunch with Trump, he can probably wish all his problems away. Trump will remember that Denmark is one of those 'good' countries. MP posted a video of a 19 year old non-citizen that was detained by ICE testifying before Congress, despite her brownness and not having a million dollars to bribe Trump with. Not only was she not deported (yet) but she was able to escape the camps and allowed to testify against the very totalitarian regime trying to disappear her. Apparently her father has also been released from ICE detention and is freely talking to the media. Safe to say these Nazis suck at Nazi-ing.
Nazis have always been grossly incompetent, that’s part of why they’re Nazis. They’re the kind of people to declare war on the United States based on vibes. Himmler was a fucking failed chicken farmer for example. Nazis are the kind of dumb fucks who think that having two separate armies compete against each other to decide which is the best army is a reasonable strategy for resource allocation in the middle of the biggest war the world has ever seen.
Consider Hesgeth and how he is completely professionally underqualified for the job, displays an appalling lack of understanding on basic subjects related to his job, is an active alcoholic, and routinely displays huge errors in judgment. But he’s promoted because the boss likes the things he says. That’s how Nazis always do it.
Nazis have always sucked. That’s a part of what makes them dangerous, they do dumb fucking things like kick off World War 2.
This is “if they’re Nazis why are they hurting white people” again. “If they’re Nazis why are they so bad at Nazism” as if the thousand year reich didn’t end in 12.
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Nazi-like behavior = nazism. Un-nazi-like behavior = also nazism, just incompetent nazism. Why are we giving billions to the Jewish state of Israel? Oh because these nazis suck at the antisemitism part. Sounds like we've set up a nice catch-all here.
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@MP Can you provide me a citation that Mexicans are deported at a higher rate?
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On June 15 2025 07:32 BlackJack wrote:
Nazi-like behavior = nazism. Un-nazi-like behavior = also nazism, just incompetent nazism. Why are we giving billions to the Jewish state of Israel? Oh because these nazis suck at the antisemitism part. Sounds like we've set up a nice catch-all here.
Which is why the argument that they’re acting like fascists isn’t built on the hill you’re undermining. It’s built on a completely different hill. But you’re jumping in and saying “suppose the only evidence was this thing, well that wouldn’t be very strong would it”. Like okay guy but nobody said that.
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Are you using nazi and fascist interchangeably? I have no problem admitting Trump is fascist though while all nazis are fascists not all fascists are nazis. Unwavering support for Israel is a pretty big "but" in labeling him the brand of fascism infamous for their antisemitism.
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On June 15 2025 07:54 BlackJack wrote:
Are you using nazi and fascist interchangeably? I have no problem admitting Trump is fascist though while all nazis are fascists not all fascists are nazis. Unwavering support for Israel is a pretty big "but" in labeling him the brand of fascism infamous for their antisemitism.
My view is that Trump is a fascist. Nazi is a very specific (and when you get into it, very weird) subtype of fascism that has loads of bad biology and Darwinism mashed into it. Whereas Trump is just classic “there was a glorious past but then the enemy within took it away from us and only by ceding all power to the great leader can the enemy be destroyed and the national birthright be restored”. Super fascist but without the crazy “violence is the only real truth and so the only way of telling which scientific theory is correct is to make the competing scientists fight to the death” shit that Nazis do.
Honestly on the Nazi thing you got me with your classic trap. The correct response to you ought not to have been “okay but Nazis totally do that”, even though your point was laughably false and Nazis do totally do that. It ought to have been “why are you talking about Nazis”.
That said, there's absolutely a racial element to Trump's brand of fascism. He's made it very clear that the other which is infecting the blood of the nation and must be destroyed is foreign and nonwhite. This is kind of like how grandmas call all consoles Nintendos. If you know a bunch about the subject you can chime in and say "actually this is a Playstation which is made by Sony which is a Japanese company whereas Nintendos are made by Nintendo which is also a Japanese company but not the same one". But you don't have to do that, you know what grandma means. "Nazi" is functionally true enough for people who aren't particularly informed about Nazism. It gets you 90% of the way there.
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