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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2913 Posts
1 hour ago
#117481
If they want to finally admit that Republicans don't care about fact, they just say stuff recreationally, I'm fine with that. But I suspect they're too proud to do so and will come up with increasingly hilarious explanations for these blatant contradictions.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1507 Posts
1 hour ago
#117482
It's funny because the classic republican line is always:

"These people have more support from the state then I do, and despite them having a very important job I will blame them and their unions for successfully negotiating instead of asking myself why does my pension suck and why I have no benefits"

It's never, ever the problem of the system that causes you to be unhappy with your situation, no, we must attack others who get paid fairly.

Same with immigrants, these guys don't want to work these jobs, they don't want their kids to change sheets in hotels or pick fruits, but they still want to sleep in hotels at a decent price and eat relatively cheap fruit, but someone has, along the way convinced them, despite all numbers saying otherwise that these people are "taking" from them, and nothing will convince them otherwise.

It's not a zero sum game, but to a conservative, that's an impossible thing to grasp.

I guess that's why they love Trump so much, he's the embodiment of this 2d thinking, trade deficit = bad, no space for nuance.

Also, obligatory: oBlade, who won the 2020 presidential election (bump #6).
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46239 Posts
1 hour ago
#117483
On July 24 2026 23:21 Jankisa wrote:
Also, obligatory: oBlade, who won the 2020 presidential election (bump #6).

oBlade also hasn't yet explained why/how Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2913 Posts
1 hour ago
#117484
I'm not even going to dignify anti-union drivel with a response. If you're against higher wages, better benefits and safe workplaces but you're not part of the Epstein class, you're just a bootlicker. It's not even up for debate.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2060 Posts
58 minutes ago
#117485
I would say unions are not without their warts. I’ve got plenty of friends and family in them. Their biggest complaint is that they spend too much time and money fighting for the 5% shit employees. It especially makes them mad when they fight for people who are dangerous or toxic to the other employees. They also do not like the protections for the just bad workers because it is frustrating to have to do more, and make the same as someone doing nothing.

That doesn’t mean they (most anyway) want to get rid of the union, that’s just the part they want fixed. But seems to exist in most unions.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8150 Posts
13 minutes ago
#117486
On July 24 2026 21:26 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2026 21:00 oBlade wrote:
On July 24 2026 05:06 KT_Elwood wrote:
Trump allows sponsors of 9/11 to run a nuclear programme that will include their own enrichment facilities (because he explicitly said they would buy fuel rods and don't have their own centrifuges).

If he ups his insurance of Trump Tower, I guess he really dislikes Mamdani!


Saudi Arabia did not sponsor 9/11. They are a US ally we buy oil from and sell arms to. There's no reason for them not to have nuclear power. The whole world should have nuclear power.

You need centrifuges to enrich so if you're buying fuel rods it's just the opposite of enriching. Your sentence disagrees with itself. Source whatever he "explicitly said" to alleviate this.

On July 24 2026 06:13 LightSpectra wrote:
The "Iran's leadership are all fanatical Muslims, they have no qualms at all about starting a nuclear war because they look forward to receiving 72 virgins in Jannah"* crowd don't seem to have any strong feelings about the possibility of the Saudis getting nukes.

(*which isn't accurate because this claim comes from a Sunni [i.e. like the Saudis] hadith and Iran is Shi'ite, not that it matters)

Iran could have also had civilian nuclear power including free fuel, but they didn't go for that. Instead, they signed a MOU and ceasefire and then broke it making everything that follows unequivocally their fault.


Who won the 2020 elections?

Gotta say oblade refusal to answer a simple question exemplifies MAGA republicans cognitive dissonances in a fairly neat way.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6329 Posts
8 minutes ago
#117487
On July 24 2026 23:53 Billyboy wrote:
I would say unions are not without their warts. I’ve got plenty of friends and family in them. Their biggest complaint is that they spend too much time and money fighting for the 5% shit employees. It especially makes them mad when they fight for people who are dangerous or toxic to the other employees. They also do not like the protections for the just bad workers because it is frustrating to have to do more, and make the same as someone doing nothing.

That doesn’t mean they (most anyway) want to get rid of the union, that’s just the part they want fixed. But seems to exist in most unions.

Public unions are a big part of why essential services like USPS and public schools suck.

It's not the 19th century and at a certain point collective bargaining for more "benefits" when your employer is the government, is just extorting the taxpayer because you can't handle the private sector. Luckily the US at least doesn't let transit unions go crazy.
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