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now that should scare the bejesus out of some people.
https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-world
Key Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia.
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On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldShow nested quote +Key Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia.
I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US.
Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable.
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On April 25 2025 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldKey Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia. I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US. Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable.
It‘s safe to assume that unlike in the US (and even Europe sometimes) they assign people to roles according to their skills.
It‘s hard to know what China does at home.
I don‘t think they have to pay much heed to international regulations when it comes to technology and minorities.
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On April 25 2025 17:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2025 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldKey Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia. I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US. Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable.
It‘s safe to assume that unlike in the US (and even Europe sometimes) they assign people to roles according to their skills.
It‘s hard to know what China does at home. I don‘t think they have to pay much heed to international regulations when it comes to technology and minorities.
This is a huge problem in the UK.
Our parties, especially the tories later on in their last period in charge, tend to choose based on loyalty or general government experience, so you end up with lots of Machiavellian politicians in charge of absolutely everything but none of them actually know what they are doing.
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Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence
Journalists and numbers, my fucking god.
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I think tjhis is a bad, confusing sentence. US citizens were 63% while international sentiment was averaged at 46%.
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As if to underline the point:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8v691qmg5o
China will let scientists from six countries, including the US, examine the rocks it collected from the Moon - a scientific collaboration that comes as the two countries remain locked in a bitter trade war.
Two Nasa-funded US institutions have been granted access to the lunar samples collected by the Chang'e-5 mission in 2020, the China National Space Administration (CNSA) said on Thursday.
CNSA chief Shan Zhongde said that the samples were "a shared treasure for all humanity," local media reported.
Chinese researchers have not been able to access Nasa's Moon samples because of restrictions imposed by US lawmakers on the space agency's collaboration with China.
If Trump caught an American making a move like this they'd be in a torture camp in El Salvador before the day is out.
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Nah, he would be pissed that he couldn't show the space rocks around himself.
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On April 25 2025 17:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2025 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldKey Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia. I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US. Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable. It‘s safe to assume that unlike in the US (and even Europe sometimes) they assign people to roles according to their skills. It‘s hard to know what China does at home. I don‘t think they have to pay much heed to international regulations when it comes to technology and minorities.
Why is that safe to assume? This may have been true in China in the 2010s, but the last few reshuffles, Xi has been appointing people who are probably not bad at their job, but the primary criteria has seemingly been loyalty (to him, not the party). Obviously nobody as insanely unqualified as the entire cabinet in this Trump government, but that is a rather unique low point.
But this is probably not the thread to discuss China's policy.
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On April 25 2025 23:10 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2025 17:22 Vivax wrote:On April 25 2025 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldKey Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia. I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US. Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable. It‘s safe to assume that unlike in the US (and even Europe sometimes) they assign people to roles according to their skills. It‘s hard to know what China does at home. I don‘t think they have to pay much heed to international regulations when it comes to technology and minorities. Why is that safe to assume? This may have been true in China in the 2010s, but the last few reshuffles, Xi has been appointing people who are probably not bad at their job, but the primary criteria has seemingly been loyalty (to him, not the party). Obviously nobody as insanely unqualified as the entire cabinet in this Trump government, but that is a rather unique low point. But this is probably not the thread to discuss China's policy.
Because when you have the population of China and a semi-communist regime, the odds of finding a competent person for a position and it being filled by someone with actual skill are higher.
Of course they‘re loyalists. If you‘re the party leader you don‘t fill positions with people who dislike you or the party.
Trump‘s trying to run the US like the CCP, but he fills positions with corrupt rich bozos.
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On April 25 2025 23:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2025 23:10 Acrofales wrote:On April 25 2025 17:22 Vivax wrote:On April 25 2025 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldKey Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia. I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US. Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable. It‘s safe to assume that unlike in the US (and even Europe sometimes) they assign people to roles according to their skills. It‘s hard to know what China does at home. I don‘t think they have to pay much heed to international regulations when it comes to technology and minorities. Why is that safe to assume? This may have been true in China in the 2010s, but the last few reshuffles, Xi has been appointing people who are probably not bad at their job, but the primary criteria has seemingly been loyalty (to him, not the party). Obviously nobody as insanely unqualified as the entire cabinet in this Trump government, but that is a rather unique low point. But this is probably not the thread to discuss China's policy. Because when you have the population of China and a semi-communist regime, the odds of finding a competent person for a position and it being filled by someone with actual skill are higher. Of course they‘re loyalists. If you‘re the party leader you don‘t fill positions with people who dislike you or the party. Trump‘s trying to run the US like the CCP, but he fills positions with corrupt rich bozos.
Exactly this. Read up on how it works in China. Goverment positions at lower levels are cut throat. Once you get to being a somewhat higher level of management you might be the mayor of a small town of a million people. And the party expects results.
Xi might pick loyalists but the talent pool is olympic high diving deep compared to the kiddie pool of US politics.
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Watermelons are racist, well, "antisemitic" according to recent NYPD training.
Glad the free speech absolutists are running things now. /s
I remember being a young kid asking "why didn't people say/do anything" and it wasn't until much later I had to learn on my own that people did, but they were mostly smudged out of history because the books are mostly written by the kinds of people that (in varying degrees) reluctantly/enthusiastically shouted them down and collaborated.
This is also a reminder of why the NYC Mayoral race matters for the future of the Democrat party and the country.
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On April 26 2025 02:01 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2025 23:51 Vivax wrote:On April 25 2025 23:10 Acrofales wrote:On April 25 2025 17:22 Vivax wrote:On April 25 2025 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 25 2025 16:24 Doublemint wrote:now that should scare the bejesus out of some people. https://www.ipsos.com/en/americas-reputation-drops-across-the-worldKey Findings
Belief in the US as a force for good falls. The proportion saying America will have an overall positive influence on world affairs has fallen in 26 out of 29 countries over the last six months. Today, almost two in three (46% on average across the 29 countries) say the US will have a positive influence, down from 59% who said the same in Sept/Oct 2024, prior to the presidential election.
The reputation of the US plummets in Canada. Only six months ago 52% of Canadians saw the US as a positive influencer; now only 19% feel the same. This 33-point fall is the largest recorded for any country. While ratings of the US did also fall among its northern neighbour during the first Trump term, this is the lowest score we have recorded for Canada since we started tracking this question in 2015.
The divided state of America. More than eight in ten (85%) Republicans currently predict their country will have a positive impact, compared to just 45% of Democrats. For Americans overall, 63% now think the US will have a positive impact on the world, which is the lowest figure we have recorded for the country in the last decade.
China is now seen as a more positive influence than the US. It’s the first time this has been the case during the ten years we have tracked this question. Across the 29 countries covered, an average of 49% say China will have positive effect on world affairs, up 10 points on six months ago. Israel and Iran remain the countries least likely to be seen as having a positive influence on the international arena. Iran’s score has however improved over the last six months, as have those of China, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia. I guess being sensible and reasonable is more valued once you get out of the US. Say what you want about China's awful domestic policies, on the international stage they are definitely sensible and usually fairly reasonable. It‘s safe to assume that unlike in the US (and even Europe sometimes) they assign people to roles according to their skills. It‘s hard to know what China does at home. I don‘t think they have to pay much heed to international regulations when it comes to technology and minorities. Why is that safe to assume? This may have been true in China in the 2010s, but the last few reshuffles, Xi has been appointing people who are probably not bad at their job, but the primary criteria has seemingly been loyalty (to him, not the party). Obviously nobody as insanely unqualified as the entire cabinet in this Trump government, but that is a rather unique low point. But this is probably not the thread to discuss China's policy. Because when you have the population of China and a semi-communist regime, the odds of finding a competent person for a position and it being filled by someone with actual skill are higher. Of course they‘re loyalists. If you‘re the party leader you don‘t fill positions with people who dislike you or the party. Trump‘s trying to run the US like the CCP, but he fills positions with corrupt rich bozos. Exactly this. Read up on how it works in China. Goverment positions at lower levels are cut throat. Once you get to being a somewhat higher level of management you might be the mayor of a small town of a million people. And the party expects results. Xi might pick loyalists but the talent pool is olympic high diving deep compared to the kiddie pool of US politics.
Were also never going to hear about any sort of incompetence unless Xi wants us too. The media control is China is complete. You are going to hear less bad about CCP members then you will bad stuff about MAGA folk on OAN.
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On April 26 2025 03:03 GreenHorizons wrote:Watermelons are racist, well, "antisemitic" according to recent NYPD training. https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/1915462980503826531Glad the free speech absolutists are running things now. /s I remember being a young kid asking "why didn't people say/do anything" and it wasn't until much later I had to learn on my own that people did, but they were mostly smudged out of history because the books are mostly written by the kinds of people that (in varying degrees) reluctantly/enthusiastically shouted them down and collaborated. This is also a reminder of why the NYC Mayoral race matters for the future of the Democrat party and the country.
*shocked pikachu faces* of the "silence is violence" crowd realizing how quickly that argument can be turned on them. I'm sure they are stunned how anyone could consider a pro-Palestinian symbol to be considered an incitement to violence. It's not like they are misgendering someone or discussing the lab leak theory... y'know... real incitements to violence.
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On April 26 2025 03:56 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2025 03:03 GreenHorizons wrote:Watermelons are racist, well, "antisemitic" according to recent NYPD training. https://twitter.com/alexbkane/status/1915462980503826531Glad the free speech absolutists are running things now. /s I remember being a young kid asking "why didn't people say/do anything" and it wasn't until much later I had to learn on my own that people did, but they were mostly smudged out of history because the books are mostly written by the kinds of people that (in varying degrees) reluctantly/enthusiastically shouted them down and collaborated. This is also a reminder of why the NYC Mayoral race matters for the future of the Democrat party and the country. *shocked pikachu faces* of the "silence is violence" crowd realizing how quickly that argument can be turned on them. I'm sure they are stunned how anyone could consider a pro-Palestinian symbol to be considered an incitement to violence. It's not like they are misgendering someone or discussing the lab leak theory... y'know... real incitements to violence.
This is essentially the sort of thing I was talking about almost exactly a year ago.
On April 24 2024 11:04 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2024 07:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Framing pro-Palestinian protests as anti-Semitic is a bad take for Biden, and I disagree with his interpretation of those protests. I'm with you on that part. I'm still struggling to see how this lays the foundation for fascism though. Republicans/Fascists also frame pro-Palestinian protests as antisemitic and will find the fact that Biden already laid the foundation for that framing in Democrat's minds and provided a program to help fascists crack down on such protests quite useful. Then fascists can point to it being a critique and product/policy that came from Democrats, that "the libs" accepted it when Biden/Democrats did it, and any opposition now is just them being bitter partisans. If Democrats push it, they'll be labeled as sympathizers or terrorists themselves, so they won't, and will call that "pragmatism". Same for the Cop City in ATL, domestic spying, the (still in use) 2001 AUMF, policing the public in NYC using the military, cracking down on "illegals", and the list goes on and on. After Democrats lay down all these foundations for fascism and eventually lose control of them (since they won't win every election in perpetuity) they'll pick up their batons in a vain attempt to avoid being the targets of those policies, institutions, etc. by finding "bipartisan compromises" on where to direct that fascism among the US public and oppressed people around the globe. + Show Spoiler +Which is uncomfortably acceptable to relatively affluent cishet white men. Because to be clear, Democrats have been making these kinds of "compromises" with less overtly fascist Republicans for decades (like consistently increasing police budgets, DOMA, and so on). Which brings us back to the bipartisan framing of pro-Palestinian actions as "antisemitic protests" that is already aligning Democrats and Republicans around cracking down on these purportedly "antisemitic protests" in a tiny, comparably placid, preview of what is to come if they aren't stopped (organized civil disobedience, like Biden is joining Republicans to crack down on, will be required) before then. Hopefully that helps you understand my point?
Worth noting that the NYPD is under the purview of the mayor of NYC. That mayor was a Democrat until he made a quid pro quo deal with Trump to make his corruption case (where he was obviously guilty) go away in exchange for helping enforce Trump's fascist policies.
He could have/can still be removed from office, but the Democrat governor has opted to let him finish out his term despite the corruption, quid pro quo, and threats posed by the policies he's enabling.
Now there's a race to replace him. The Democrats leading choice a couple months out the from the primary vote is a serial sexual abuser with multiple substantive corruption allegations that is unquestionably the most amenable to Trump.
This is among the most angry about being right I've ever been in my life lol.
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And now trump is arresting judges.
*constitutional crisis intensifies*
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We’re definitely near the point where general strike feels like the only reasonable option
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On April 26 2025 05:29 decafchicken wrote:
And now trump is arresting judges.
*constitutional crisis intensifies*
And the DOJ is telling ICE it doesnt need a warrant to bust into people's houses to look for people to deport.
Im really excited to see our Gestapo get fleshed out in real time. Maybe one day all secret police will be colloquially referred to as ICE! Thats how you'll know we really hit the fascist bigly!
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I've pondered all sorts of responses to Trump declaring his 2028 run. I dismiss all the highroad stuff and think the best way to fight back against it is for Obama to declare his candidacy as well
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On April 26 2025 05:49 Mohdoo wrote:
We’re definitely near the point where general strike feels like the only reasonable option
How do you see a general strike working? I feel like the people that go through with it, if there is not an overwhelming number, will just get fired (especially any government employees). I also don't know what the ask is from the strike or who the strikers would be negotiating with. This is not a collectively bargained situation.
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