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ZerOCoolSC2
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GreenHorizons
United States23879 Posts
On February 19 2025 00:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Looks like Hochul might force Adams out of the NYC Mayorship. That'd be a good step in the right direction. I don't think it does. It has become pretty impossible to deny she is obligated to with the blatant quid pro quo being public, but she still hasn't for the same reasons she didn't push him out months ago. It's a bit of NY inside baseball, but basically Cuomo is going to replace him which won't help her run against Letitia James in 2026 (who she wanted to run for mayor of NYC instead). She has to stall for a little more than a month to avoid a special election, but it's sorta in vain since she failed to convince James to run for NYC Mayor and Democrats actually support Cuomo anyway. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
In a couple of speeches Trump has gone out of his way to never say the word "Palestine". If he has an official position on it I'd rather he explicitly say it rather than trying to turn it into some kind of WWF pro wrestling mystery angle. I was talking to my grandma who has lived in Canada from 1952 to today and she said she has never seen the Canadian press cover a US President even half as much as they are covering Trump. According to her... , within Canadian media, the guy is every where. There are "Canadian Made" labels appearing every where. Canada nationalism and its hard right turn are pretty hilarious. The Liberals are polling at 23% in Canada's largest province. LOL. | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
Yes, Trump is popular right now. Trump has had a disasterous drop in approval rating, especially among the young. Calling him "popular" is a stretch. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tariffs-trump-investment-1.7459832 Canada is getting fucked hard. On February 19 2025 02:18 Slydie wrote: Trump has had a disasterous drop in approval rating, especially among the young. Calling him "popular" is a stretch. source? https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/ NASCAR fan, UFC Fans, NFL fans, and even hockey fans all seem to like him. I've never seen the USA celebrated at a hockey game as much as it was on Monday night. It was nuts. And Mass ain't exactly a Republican stronghold. and, btw, its spelled favourability. the link is incorrect.  also, a clearer definition of "the young" helps. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9037 Posts
On February 19 2025 01:47 GreenHorizons wrote: I don't think it does. It has become pretty impossible to deny she is obligated to with the blatant quid pro quo being public, but she still hasn't for the same reasons she didn't push him out months ago. It's a bit of NY inside baseball, but basically Cuomo is going to replace him which won't help her run against Letitia James in 2026 (who she wanted to run for mayor of NYC instead). She has to stall for a little more than a month to avoid a special election, but it's sorta in vain since she failed to convince James to run for NYC Mayor and Democrats actually support Cuomo anyway. Isn't doing something better than doing nothing and tanking her 2026 run even further? James might take the governor seat but I'd say it's early to give it to Cuomo. NY needs to make their voices heard and demand someone better. If they don't well.... | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9827 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:20 JimmyJRaynor wrote: source? https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/ NASCAR fan, UFC Fans, NFL fans, and even hockey fans all seem to like him. I've never seen the USA celebrated at a hockey game as much as it was on Monday night. And Mass ain't exactly a Republican stronghold. and, btw, its spelled favourability. the link is incorrect. also, a clearer definition of "the young" helps. Among adults under 30, it has dropped from 50% to 39% in two weeks. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-musk-youth-vote-approval-rating-b2697754.html A new poll shows President Donald Trump’s much-vaunted success with younger voters seems to have stalled, as his approval rating among that demographic continues to fall. Just 39 percent of adults under 30-years-old who responded to the latest Economist/YouGov poll reported a favorable opinion of Trump. That number stood at 50 percent just two weeks ago. Adults in the 30- to 44-years-old bracket who view him favorably also dropped from 45 percent to 42 percent. Overall, 46 percent of respondents approve of Trump’s second presidency, according to this week’s poll, a drop of three percent compared to late last month. Similarly, just 46 percent of respondents view him favorably personally, a drop from last month’s 50 percent. That took me about 7 seconds of Googling. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:24 Jockmcplop wrote: That took me about 7 seconds of Googling. i could not google it because you did not define "the young". so your speed claim is meaningless. Checking my source, that took me 7 seconds to find, his approval % has hovered around 47% this year. Any how, Trump is up there in terms of approval. https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/global-leader-approval | ||
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oBlade
United States6054 Posts
On February 18 2025 18:42 KT_Elwood wrote: Does your copium supply ever run out? The world is already producing more than enough food to feed the entire human race, problem is the distrubution. When Elon bullshitted that he will pay for a way to solve world hunger, and UN came up with the bill of less than 1% of his net worth/year, he just ghosted them because he had no idea that somebody would come and collect. I don't know if you know what copium means. Really? That sounds so cheap, a great deal. By the way, what is the ratio of (less than 1% of Musk's networth per year) to (the annual budget of USAID), for example? On February 18 2025 18:42 KT_Elwood wrote: Food is thrown out because It's too expensive to get food from A to B. USAID distributed food, now 9700 of 10.000 workers are recalled, and the people who stay are supposed to close shop. There won't be new food, and the food that is there, won't get distributed. Usually the food is stored in locations either guarded against poverty..or guarded by wealth, with people around simply not desperate enough to steal food. Food is produced because it's people's business. It's distributed because there are more people other than right next to you than there are right next to you, so it helps to sell as much of it as possible. Nevertheless, we are so efficient that we make surpluses of food. Therefore the extra that people can't eat gets thrown out, biomassed, turned into feed, whatever. If the people cannot grow their own food, they can pay for its distribution to them using fungible currency in an economy. You can reduce food waste by reducing food production. If you increase the economic prosperity of people you think should buy more food, they will not buy the existing food and thereby decrease surplus. They will create more surplus, or maintain the current surplus at least, in the end, by virtue of their increased prosperity. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9827 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:28 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i could not google it because you did not define "the young". so your speed claim is meaningless. Neither did I, and it wasn't me who made the original post. I just searched for "trump approval rating among young" The first article provided its own definition of young for me so I didn't have to ask. The question was totally unnecessary in the first place. Sealioning is so very, very common on this site, way more than others I post on. Its a curiosity. I actually disagree with the characterisation of this drop in popularity in this article. He's still pretty popular in general. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/global-leader-approval I am surprised he is still this popular given the rough ride 19 million federal government employees are getting right now. I've been impressed by Claudia Sheinbaum. I'd be interested in a "man on the street" perspective of her Presidency. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22238 Posts
That is the literal only thought in his head and it shows in every single post he makes. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23879 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: This is more of the "I threw pennies at the homeless person, aren't they richer?!?" absurdity. She waited too long to act and now it's bad for her if she ignores the blatant corruption while doing nothing and bad for her if she boots him and makes it even easier for Cuomo to win. Isn't doing something better than doing nothing and tanking her 2026 run even further? James might take the governor seat but I'd say it's early to give it to Cuomo. NY needs to make their voices heard and demand someone better. If they don't well.... Also this "NY needs to make their voices heard and demand someone better" is just more of Democrats' contemptible "thoughts and prayers" It's empty rhetoric that only functions to rationalize support for the status quo while implicitly blaming its victims. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45525 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:36 Gorsameth wrote: your daily reminder that the only thing Jimmy ever posts about is his attempts to justify leaving Canada for American and therefor America has to always be great and Canada has to be shit. That is the literal only thought in his head and it shows in every single post he makes. Don't forget the amazing, incredible, shocking fact that Trump is popular with NASCAR fans and other audiences that skew Republican / white male. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5096 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:32 Jockmcplop wrote: Sealioning is so very, very common on this site, way more than others I post on. Its a curiosity. I think many people often skim lengthy posts (I sometimes do, I've gotten better) and jump in and out of threads without reading everything after they left. Post count can go up quite fast sometimes as well. It's difficult to remember what has and hasn't been said. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:36 Gorsameth wrote: your daily reminder that the only thing Jimmy ever posts about is his attempts to justify leaving Canada for American and therefor America has to always be great and Canada has to be shit. That is the literal only thought in his head and it shows in every single post he makes. nah, read my posts in the Canadian politics thread. Canada has many great aspects. Canada's standard of living rose dramatically from 1994 to 2007. I'm thankful to have benefited from that golden era. Jean Chretien and Mike Harris were amazing. Canada remains as one of the top 20 countries in which to live. However, for hard working ambitious young people USA > Canada. This is precisely why young, hard working, ambitious young Canadians move to the USA in droves. I hope Canada makes a comeback. From a purely selfish perspective: it gives me more options. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9827 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:43 Uldridge wrote: I think many people often skim lengthy posts (I sometimes do, I've gotten better) and jump in and out of threads without reading everything after they left. Post count can go up quite fast sometimes as well. It's difficult to remember what has and hasn't been said. Oh I get that, but its fairly obvious when people have decided that rather than engage with a post honestly, they will persistently ask questions until they find a little point they can argue about ad infinitum. Its just something I've noticed in this thread, which is why so many discussions end up going around and around and getting lost in completely pointless debate. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5096 Posts
Why do you think what Trump is doing is so great? Is it just because it's making the US, and solely the US, a better place, while everyone else is getting a wake up call? Is it part of the weak Western leadership narrative that's been touted? | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9037 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:38 GreenHorizons wrote: This is more of the "I threw pennies at the homeless person, aren't they richer?!?" absurdity. She waited too long to act and now it's bad for her if she ignores the blatant corruption while doing nothing and bad for her if she boots him and makes it even easier for Cuomo to win. Also this "NY needs to make their voices heard and demand someone better" is just more of Democrats' contemptible "thoughts and prayers" It's empty rhetoric that only functions to rationalize support for the status quo while implicitly blaming its victims. And that's my cue to disengage from discussing anything further with you. I tried but I'm tired of the same shit you puke any time someone engages with you. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17457 Posts
On February 19 2025 02:51 Uldridge wrote: @Jimmy, Why do you think what Trump is doing is so great? Is it just because it's making the US and solely the US a, better place, while everyone else is getting a wake up call? Is it part of the weak Western leadership narrative that's been touted? I do not think I have ever stated Trump is making America "so great". I think Trump is on a path towards improving the every day lives of every day, average working people in America. We will know in a couple of years if all these moves he is making are working. I think America was "great" for hard working average people from about 1950 to about 1973. Things levelled off from 1973 until about 2008. Since about 2008, the country has been on a very slow decline. If Trump can bring things up to the levels for 1973-2008 I'll be super impressed. However, I'd just like to see some improvement rather than a continued slow decline. I think getting criminals out of sanctuary cities is a good move. I think renegotiating the USMCA will improve things for Americans. Canada and Mexico must pay for their own military defence. Both countries can start to build their military now. Alternatively, they could just make straight up cash payments to the USA for its military services. Another solution is to surrender an % ownership stake in their natural resources and oil reserves. It is 100% reasonable for the USA to make specific material demands of these countries due to the costs she burdens in defending all of NA. Trump has done a nice job in this area. Canada and Mexico having to pay a much greater share of GDP on military defense will mean they'll have to spend less in other areas. If this harms the quality of life of Canadians and Mexicans.. so be it. Part of the burden of nationhood is military defence. Both countries have been living in this bizarre Utopia where they do not need to allocate resources to their respective military. | ||
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