• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:25
CEST 10:25
KST 17:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down0StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon97Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?175Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5762 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3393

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 3391 3392 3393 3394 3395 5964 Next
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2939 Posts
November 23 2021 12:48 GMT
#67841
Looks like we scared Lachrymose away :/

In other news, I'm still a bit surprised that running your car through a Christmas parade is not considered a terrorist event.

www.theguardian.com

Darrell E Brooks was in custody, charged with five counts of intentional first-degree homicide, Daniel Thompson, police chief of Waukesha, a city 20 miles west of Milwaukee, said at an afternoon press conference.

He said that the suspect was involved in an unspecified domestic disturbance immediately before the parade incident, and that further charges were expected.

Thompson said that there was no evidence the bloodshed on Sunday was a terrorist attack or that the suspect knew anyone in the parade. Brooks had acted alone, the chief said.


I guess Darrell was just having a bad day then.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-23 12:51:18
November 23 2021 12:50 GMT
#67842
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2939 Posts
November 23 2021 13:34 GMT
#67843
On November 23 2021 21:50 farvacola wrote:
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more.


I agree that it doesn't fit the usual terrorist label where a political or religious motive is part of the definition.

However, according to the same guardian article, it's not his first time running people down with his car:

Brooks was arrested a short time after the incident and his vehicle impounded, Thompson added. Brooks has been charged with crimes 16 times since 1999 and had two outstanding cases against him at the time of the parade disaster – including one in which he was accused of deliberately running down a woman with his vehicle.


So I'm more inclined to think that he expected that he was going to get jail time and therefore decided to go out with a bang by mowing down the Christmas parade in town. I'd still consider that terrorism even if there is no underlying political motive.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2006 Posts
November 23 2021 14:50 GMT
#67844
On November 23 2021 22:34 EnDeR_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 21:50 farvacola wrote:
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more.


I agree that it doesn't fit the usual terrorist label where a political or religious motive is part of the definition.

However, according to the same guardian article, it's not his first time running people down with his car:

Show nested quote +
Brooks was arrested a short time after the incident and his vehicle impounded, Thompson added. Brooks has been charged with crimes 16 times since 1999 and had two outstanding cases against him at the time of the parade disaster – including one in which he was accused of deliberately running down a woman with his vehicle.


So I'm more inclined to think that he expected that he was going to get jail time and therefore decided to go out with a bang by mowing down the Christmas parade in town. I'd still consider that terrorism even if there is no underlying political motive.


Afaik, terrorism must always have some kind of purpose, usually religious or political. There are plenty of horrible mass killings which are not terrorism, in the US and elsewhere.
Buff the siegetank
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 23 2021 15:19 GMT
#67845
Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.

As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.

The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.

Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019.

Source

Probably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11978 Posts
November 23 2021 15:52 GMT
#67846
On November 23 2021 23:50 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2021 22:34 EnDeR_ wrote:
On November 23 2021 21:50 farvacola wrote:
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more.


I agree that it doesn't fit the usual terrorist label where a political or religious motive is part of the definition.

However, according to the same guardian article, it's not his first time running people down with his car:

Brooks was arrested a short time after the incident and his vehicle impounded, Thompson added. Brooks has been charged with crimes 16 times since 1999 and had two outstanding cases against him at the time of the parade disaster – including one in which he was accused of deliberately running down a woman with his vehicle.


So I'm more inclined to think that he expected that he was going to get jail time and therefore decided to go out with a bang by mowing down the Christmas parade in town. I'd still consider that terrorism even if there is no underlying political motive.


Afaik, terrorism must always have some kind of purpose, usually religious or political. There are plenty of horrible mass killings which are not terrorism, in the US and elsewhere.


I agree here. A core tenet of terrorism is that it serves a purpose. It intends to create fear with the target to further some goal beyond the killing and the fear.

If i just shoot a dozen people because i feel like it, i am not a terrorist. If i shoot a dozen people with the intent to force the German republic to change its flag to have blue instead of black in it, that would be terrorism.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-23 16:41:53
November 23 2021 16:32 GMT
#67847
On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:
Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Show nested quote +
Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.

As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.

The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.

Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019.

Source

Probably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.


I’ve never been observant enough to make myself more knowledgeable about gas prices but it’s always something I wish I did.

It looks like, when adjusting for inflation, gas prices are exceptionally steady. basically a straight line. Not adjusted for inflation, straddling $3 since 2006.

i’m not any smarter now than i was half an hour ago but wanted to share because of just how consistent the price is tied to inflation. seemed surprising.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/

https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/


this source paints a slightly different picture in that it shows a little more variance but over all the same picture, unfortunately only through 2019 though so it won’t talk to your point in particular

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/12/20201222-fotw.html

i take it then that the prices we see at the pump aren’t extremely tied to the actual value of the oil itself.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2006 Posts
November 23 2021 16:33 GMT
#67848
On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:
Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Show nested quote +
Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.

As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.

The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.

Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019.

Source

Probably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.


A spike in demand and a global goods transport crisis together with high inflation is what goes on. It doesn't make sense to blame domestic politics for it.

But if you like a powerful incentive for alternate forms of transportation and energy, it is actually great. It the crisis remains, it will be painfully obvious how unsustainable the US model is.
Buff the siegetank
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-23 16:58:22
November 23 2021 16:57 GMT
#67849
On November 24 2021 01:32 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:
Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.

As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.

The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.

Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019.

Source

Probably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.


I’ve never been observant enough to make myself more knowledgeable about gas prices but it’s always something I wish I did.

It looks like, when adjusting for inflation, gas prices are exceptionally steady. basically a straight line. Not adjusted for inflation, straddling $3 since 2006.

i’m not any smarter now than i was half an hour ago but wanted to share because of just how consistent the price is tied to inflation. seemed surprising.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/

https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/


this source paints a slightly different picture in that it shows a little more variance but over all the same picture, unfortunately only through 2019 though so it won’t talk to your point in particular

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/12/20201222-fotw.html

i take it then that the prices we see at the pump aren’t extremely tied to the actual value of the oil itself.


Given how large of an influence gasoline has on inflation (both directly as it is taken into the measure of inflation, and indirectly through the cost of shipping stuff around), I don't think showing that the price of gasoline adjusted for inflation is flat is particularly useful.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 23 2021 17:11 GMT
#67850
On November 24 2021 01:33 Slydie wrote:
But if you like a powerful incentive for alternate forms of transportation and energy, it is actually great. It the crisis remains, it will be painfully obvious how unsustainable the US model is.

Nope. There’s a shortage in every viable alternative to gasoline - coal, natural gas, every rare earth metal used to create batteries and renewable energy equipment, you name it. Hell, oil doesn’t even look all that expensive by the standards of the competition.

It’s a powerful incentive for demand destruction if anything. But a far weaker incentive than that of trying to save a crumbling economy that runs on copious amounts of energy, so instead we look to subsidize all forms of energy, renewable or otherwise.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
November 23 2021 18:20 GMT
#67851
On November 24 2021 01:57 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2021 01:32 brian wrote:
On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:
Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.

As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.

The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.

Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019.

Source

Probably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.


I’ve never been observant enough to make myself more knowledgeable about gas prices but it’s always something I wish I did.

It looks like, when adjusting for inflation, gas prices are exceptionally steady. basically a straight line. Not adjusted for inflation, straddling $3 since 2006.

i’m not any smarter now than i was half an hour ago but wanted to share because of just how consistent the price is tied to inflation. seemed surprising.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/

https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/


this source paints a slightly different picture in that it shows a little more variance but over all the same picture, unfortunately only through 2019 though so it won’t talk to your point in particular

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/12/20201222-fotw.html

i take it then that the prices we see at the pump aren’t extremely tied to the actual value of the oil itself.


Given how large of an influence gasoline has on inflation (both directly as it is taken into the measure of inflation, and indirectly through the cost of shipping stuff around), I don't think showing that the price of gasoline adjusted for inflation is flat is particularly useful.


ah that would explain it.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 23 2021 18:38 GMT
#67852
It could also come from the fact that the OPEC more or less decides whats the price of the barrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 24 2021 13:44 GMT
#67853
--- Nuked ---
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11978 Posts
November 24 2021 13:52 GMT
#67854
On November 24 2021 22:44 JimmiC wrote:
Well it is official, trump is a better martial artist than Chuck Norris. He is also gaining on Putin for fake fighting honors.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-awarded-highest-taekwondo-205400646.html


Okay, that is incredibly silly. What the fuck is an honorary black belt supposed to be? I guess similar to an honorary doctors title, so basically something no one ever takes serious.

But it is kind of funny to imagine Trump running a dojo and trying to train people in a sport he has never practiced.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27351 Posts
November 24 2021 14:26 GMT
#67855
It’s a totally appropriate award of an honorary martial arts title, Trump is known for his physical fitness, stoicism and keen sense of honour.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 24 2021 14:32 GMT
#67856
That black belt will be good for life though. He'll be the first 200 year-old black belt in history.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 24 2021 14:41 GMT
#67857
--- Nuked ---
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 24 2021 15:36 GMT
#67858
On November 24 2021 23:41 JimmiC wrote:
Putin does all that stuff as well, though as an ex KGB guy he probably has some training. I do find it funny that Trump is held up as some hero of freedom for his cult while actively praising Putin and trying to be like him in even obscure ways.

We can spin it as him praising Putin for his masculinity, not his despotism. Albeit a benevolent, macho dictator is something I feel many maga hats would be into
passive quaranstream fan
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 24 2021 15:44 GMT
#67859
--- Nuked ---
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-24 15:49:23
November 24 2021 15:48 GMT
#67860
On November 25 2021 00:44 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2021 00:36 Artisreal wrote:
On November 24 2021 23:41 JimmiC wrote:
Putin does all that stuff as well, though as an ex KGB guy he probably has some training. I do find it funny that Trump is held up as some hero of freedom for his cult while actively praising Putin and trying to be like him in even obscure ways.

We can spin it as him praising Putin for his masculinity, not his despotism. Albeit a benevolent, macho dictator is something I feel many maga hats would be into

Unless they bother to see what it is like for Russians in their same social and economic situation you would probably be right.

That would require an amount of critical thinking, that would quickly push them away from worshipping Trump though.
I consider my example a perfectly viable course of argument in this time and age, albeit it being absolutely rubbish.
passive quaranstream fan
Prev 1 3391 3392 3393 3394 3395 5964 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 459
PianO 192
Soma 185
Zeus 101
soO 87
Killer 61
sSak 53
Larva 28
sorry 26
Bale 23
[ Show more ]
JulyZerg 14
Terrorterran 4
Britney 0
Dota 2
ODPixel466
League of Legends
JimRising 430
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss941
olofmeister518
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King117
Other Games
summit1g11601
Grubby3230
ceh9628
Happy330
kaitlyn20
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick899
BasetradeTV61
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH305
• LUISG 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2169
League of Legends
• Rush1320
• Lourlo1000
• Jankos856
• Stunt462
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 36m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
2h 36m
PiGosaur Cup
15h 36m
The PondCast
1d 1h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.