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Looks like we scared Lachrymose away :/
In other news, I'm still a bit surprised that running your car through a Christmas parade is not considered a terrorist event.
www.theguardian.com
Darrell E Brooks was in custody, charged with five counts of intentional first-degree homicide, Daniel Thompson, police chief of Waukesha, a city 20 miles west of Milwaukee, said at an afternoon press conference.
He said that the suspect was involved in an unspecified domestic disturbance immediately before the parade incident, and that further charges were expected.
Thompson said that there was no evidence the bloodshed on Sunday was a terrorist attack or that the suspect knew anyone in the parade. Brooks had acted alone, the chief said.
I guess Darrell was just having a bad day then.
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By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more.
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On November 23 2021 21:50 farvacola wrote:
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more.
I agree that it doesn't fit the usual terrorist label where a political or religious motive is part of the definition.
However, according to the same guardian article, it's not his first time running people down with his car:
Brooks was arrested a short time after the incident and his vehicle impounded, Thompson added. Brooks has been charged with crimes 16 times since 1999 and had two outstanding cases against him at the time of the parade disaster – including one in which he was accused of deliberately running down a woman with his vehicle.
So I'm more inclined to think that he expected that he was going to get jail time and therefore decided to go out with a bang by mowing down the Christmas parade in town. I'd still consider that terrorism even if there is no underlying political motive.
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On November 23 2021 22:34 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2021 21:50 farvacola wrote:
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more. I agree that it doesn't fit the usual terrorist label where a political or religious motive is part of the definition. However, according to the same guardian article, it's not his first time running people down with his car: Show nested quote +Brooks was arrested a short time after the incident and his vehicle impounded, Thompson added. Brooks has been charged with crimes 16 times since 1999 and had two outstanding cases against him at the time of the parade disaster – including one in which he was accused of deliberately running down a woman with his vehicle. So I'm more inclined to think that he expected that he was going to get jail time and therefore decided to go out with a bang by mowing down the Christmas parade in town. I'd still consider that terrorism even if there is no underlying political motive.
Afaik, terrorism must always have some kind of purpose, usually religious or political. There are plenty of horrible mass killings which are not terrorism, in the US and elsewhere.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.
As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.
The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.
Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019.
Source
Probably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.
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On November 23 2021 23:50 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2021 22:34 EnDeR_ wrote:On November 23 2021 21:50 farvacola wrote:
By all indications, it was not a premeditated event and was instead the awful result of a serial criminal running away from police like a fucking idiot. I don't think the terrorism label fits, but maybe that'll change as we learn more. I agree that it doesn't fit the usual terrorist label where a political or religious motive is part of the definition. However, according to the same guardian article, it's not his first time running people down with his car: Brooks was arrested a short time after the incident and his vehicle impounded, Thompson added. Brooks has been charged with crimes 16 times since 1999 and had two outstanding cases against him at the time of the parade disaster – including one in which he was accused of deliberately running down a woman with his vehicle. So I'm more inclined to think that he expected that he was going to get jail time and therefore decided to go out with a bang by mowing down the Christmas parade in town. I'd still consider that terrorism even if there is no underlying political motive. Afaik, terrorism must always have some kind of purpose, usually religious or political. There are plenty of horrible mass killings which are not terrorism, in the US and elsewhere.
I agree here. A core tenet of terrorism is that it serves a purpose. It intends to create fear with the target to further some goal beyond the killing and the fear.
If i just shoot a dozen people because i feel like it, i am not a terrorist. If i shoot a dozen people with the intent to force the German republic to change its flag to have blue instead of black in it, that would be terrorism.
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On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Show nested quote + Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.
As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.
The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.
Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019. SourceProbably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.
I’ve never been observant enough to make myself more knowledgeable about gas prices but it’s always something I wish I did.
It looks like, when adjusting for inflation, gas prices are exceptionally steady. basically a straight line. Not adjusted for inflation, straddling $3 since 2006.
i’m not any smarter now than i was half an hour ago but wanted to share because of just how consistent the price is tied to inflation. seemed surprising.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/
https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/
this source paints a slightly different picture in that it shows a little more variance but over all the same picture, unfortunately only through 2019 though so it won’t talk to your point in particular
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/12/20201222-fotw.html
i take it then that the prices we see at the pump aren’t extremely tied to the actual value of the oil itself.
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On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Show nested quote + Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.
As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.
The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.
Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019. SourceProbably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60.
A spike in demand and a global goods transport crisis together with high inflation is what goes on. It doesn't make sense to blame domestic politics for it.
But if you like a powerful incentive for alternate forms of transportation and energy, it is actually great. It the crisis remains, it will be painfully obvious how unsustainable the US model is.
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On November 24 2021 01:32 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.
As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.
The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.
Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019. SourceProbably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60. I’ve never been observant enough to make myself more knowledgeable about gas prices but it’s always something I wish I did. It looks like, when adjusting for inflation, gas prices are exceptionally steady. basically a straight line. Not adjusted for inflation, straddling $3 since 2006. i’m not any smarter now than i was half an hour ago but wanted to share because of just how consistent the price is tied to inflation. seemed surprising. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/this source paints a slightly different picture in that it shows a little more variance but over all the same picture, unfortunately only through 2019 though so it won’t talk to your point in particular https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/12/20201222-fotw.htmli take it then that the prices we see at the pump aren’t extremely tied to the actual value of the oil itself.
Given how large of an influence gasoline has on inflation (both directly as it is taken into the measure of inflation, and indirectly through the cost of shipping stuff around), I don't think showing that the price of gasoline adjusted for inflation is flat is particularly useful.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 24 2021 01:33 Slydie wrote:
But if you like a powerful incentive for alternate forms of transportation and energy, it is actually great. It the crisis remains, it will be painfully obvious how unsustainable the US model is.
Nope. There’s a shortage in every viable alternative to gasoline - coal, natural gas, every rare earth metal used to create batteries and renewable energy equipment, you name it. Hell, oil doesn’t even look all that expensive by the standards of the competition.
It’s a powerful incentive for demand destruction if anything. But a far weaker incentive than that of trying to save a crumbling economy that runs on copious amounts of energy, so instead we look to subsidize all forms of energy, renewable or otherwise.
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On November 24 2021 01:57 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2021 01:32 brian wrote:On November 24 2021 00:19 LegalLord wrote:Looks like after several months of posturing about how he’s going to lower the price for gasoline, Biden finally decided to release some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Oil prices erased losses and jumped on Tuesday morning following the announcement from the U.S. Administration that it would make available 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower said oil prices.
As of 9:27 a.m. EST, WTI Crude prices were back above $77, having erased earlier losses and trading up by 1.30% at $77.75. Brent Crude prices returned to the $80 mark, and were approaching $81, as they had risen by 1.73% to $80.96.
The headline for the oil market on Tuesday morning was the announcement of US President Joe Biden that the Department of Energy would release 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR in a bid to lower high gasoline prices in a coordinated effort with other major oil-consuming nations. The SPR release from the United States is being carried out in parallel with other major energy-consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, the Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom.
Despite the seemingly big number, 50 million barrels, the U.S. release actually equals around two and a half days of American petroleum consumption, which was at 20.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the pre-pandemic 2019. SourceProbably a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it’s something. I honestly think there’s something more going on than high oil prices causing high gasoline prices - I don’t remember gas being this expensive before oil reached $100+ a few years ago, and it was pretty expensive a few months ago when oil was more like $40-60. I’ve never been observant enough to make myself more knowledgeable about gas prices but it’s always something I wish I did. It looks like, when adjusting for inflation, gas prices are exceptionally steady. basically a straight line. Not adjusted for inflation, straddling $3 since 2006. i’m not any smarter now than i was half an hour ago but wanted to share because of just how consistent the price is tied to inflation. seemed surprising. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/this source paints a slightly different picture in that it shows a little more variance but over all the same picture, unfortunately only through 2019 though so it won’t talk to your point in particular https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/12/20201222-fotw.htmli take it then that the prices we see at the pump aren’t extremely tied to the actual value of the oil itself. Given how large of an influence gasoline has on inflation (both directly as it is taken into the measure of inflation, and indirectly through the cost of shipping stuff around), I don't think showing that the price of gasoline adjusted for inflation is flat is particularly useful.
ah that would explain it. 
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It could also come from the fact that the OPEC more or less decides whats the price of the barrel
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Okay, that is incredibly silly. What the fuck is an honorary black belt supposed to be? I guess similar to an honorary doctors title, so basically something no one ever takes serious.
But it is kind of funny to imagine Trump running a dojo and trying to train people in a sport he has never practiced.
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Northern Ireland24971 Posts
It’s a totally appropriate award of an honorary martial arts title, Trump is known for his physical fitness, stoicism and keen sense of honour.
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That black belt will be good for life though. He'll be the first 200 year-old black belt in history.
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On November 24 2021 23:41 JimmiC wrote:
Putin does all that stuff as well, though as an ex KGB guy he probably has some training. I do find it funny that Trump is held up as some hero of freedom for his cult while actively praising Putin and trying to be like him in even obscure ways.
We can spin it as him praising Putin for his masculinity, not his despotism. Albeit a benevolent, macho dictator is something I feel many maga hats would be into
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On November 25 2021 00:44 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2021 00:36 Artisreal wrote:On November 24 2021 23:41 JimmiC wrote:
Putin does all that stuff as well, though as an ex KGB guy he probably has some training. I do find it funny that Trump is held up as some hero of freedom for his cult while actively praising Putin and trying to be like him in even obscure ways. We can spin it as him praising Putin for his masculinity, not his despotism. Albeit a benevolent, macho dictator is something I feel many maga hats would be into Unless they bother to see what it is like for Russians in their same social and economic situation you would probably be right.
That would require an amount of critical thinking, that would quickly push them away from worshipping Trump though.
I consider my example a perfectly viable course of argument in this time and age, albeit it being absolutely rubbish.
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