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On September 10 2020 11:59 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2020 09:02 Zambrah wrote:On September 10 2020 08:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 10 2020 07:51 Zambrah wrote:On September 10 2020 07:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 10 2020 06:13 Zambrah wrote:On September 10 2020 06:01 JimmiC wrote:On September 10 2020 05:54 Zambrah wrote:On September 10 2020 05:46 NewSunshine wrote:On September 10 2020 05:13 Nevuk wrote:
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Not really. It would've mattered back in march, since it's an exponential growth. Politically it won't hurt him with his base, but that he kept the info from his campaign may have a pile on effect.
Trump has a chance but I think it's lower than 10%. Biden has to make a ton of errors on top of nothing else bad coming out for Trump. Bad stuff is going to keep dropping for Trump, it's just how he's always worked and everyone that was holding back out of caution will be unloading in October.
I'm more concerned about the inevitable violence, or the chance that Trump wins big on election day and then tries to ignore all mail-in votes and has to be forced out of office. Trump has never given anyone reason to expect he'll actually surrender his office peaceably if he loses. Expect anything from rampant declarations of Democratic hoaxes and conspiracies with no evidence, to potential violence solicited from his gun-toting supporters that want to see if Trump can get 3 terms or more. Basically, he's already been laying the groundwork for all the excuses and calls to violence he's going to make when he loses, because he's already been doing it. Whether or not he leaves peacefully (at least non-bloodshed, he might have to be carried out by security, but Id file that under peaceful) is definitely going to be his psychotic proud boy scumbag crowd. If they try and pull some shit I actually expect a SERIOUS crack down from the White House security people, because I guarantee they are not going to be on Trump's side if he loses. Imagine calls from the right to "defund the police" as Trump, his cronies and various white supremacists are being arrested. "Patriots ILLEGALLY arrested by the VIOLENT OPPRESSIVE STATE!" Is roughly what I'm expecting to hear in various degrees. lmao who do you guys think would be arresting Trump and and these white supremacists? Law enforcement and white supremacy are like peas and carrots. There might not be another occupational category besides law enforcement where Trump and white supremacy enjoy such support. White supremacist groups have infiltrated US law enforcement agencies in every region of the country over the last two decades, according to a new report about the ties between police and far-right vigilante groups.
In a timely new analysis, Michael German, a former FBI special agent who has written extensively on the ways that US law enforcement have failed to respond to far-right domestic terror threats, concludes that US law enforcement officials have been tied to racist militant activities in more than a dozen states since 2000, and hundreds of police officers have been caught posting racist and bigoted social media content.
Police in Sacramento, California, in 2018 worked with neo-Nazis to pursue charges against anti-racist activists, including some who had been stabbed, according to records. www.theguardian.com I didnt say police, I said White House security, the police probably won't be involved, the Secret Service will likely kick him out if he loses, he doesn't seem well liked enough to pull even a minor sort of coup with government support. Armed militia jackasses, yes, they could certainly come out in droves (and probably will including off-duty and on-duty and former and current pigs) but I'm relatively confident that if Trump is confirmed to have lost the election and refuses to vacate the White House that noone will be able to keep him in the building when Biden arrives and the Secret Service escort him out. Now once hes out the threshold of the doors, who the fuck knows what happens, but I doubt he'd succeed in holing up in the White House if he tried. The mistake is thinking there will be some definitive and unquestionable election result. It's much more likely to be a Bush-Gore type scenario with Trump refusing to admit defeat and Democrats caving (presuming they did technically win). It's unlikely Democrats would be willing to even risk a violent confrontation were they able to find people with the authority and willingness to try and remove him. He's either going to win the electoral college or he isnt. And yeah if there's any actual legwork to be done if Trump loses the electoral college or ties or whatever, I fully expect Democrats to throw their hands up, say "nothing to be done here!" and start attacking Bernie Sanders and Progressives. As has been pointed out 269 - 269 isn't off the table. More realistically what we'll have is a couple of swing states with results that can be validly contested and a couple deep blue/red states with the same. The details will be muddled among them and the winner will be whoever the voter voted for to them. Any scenario that isn't a walk-off win for Biden ends in another Trump term. One wildcard is that this is sorta like Bush in 08 where the next president will have to push policy people don't like (austerity in this case) due to their ideological/donors limitations. People should probably spend a bit more time interrogating the notion that vote results will pierce the anti-reality shield of most of Trump's supporters as well.
Not buying this train of thought quite yet, and I don't expect you to own up to it if you're wrong in two months.
To the contrary, I think that political unrest (riots and the like) are actually not unlikely from the left if Trump 1) wins an extremely questionable election or 2) tries to hold onto power without winning. I also don't think that the Dems will just roll over if this is the case.
That said, I think it's far more likely that Biden gets a pretty comfortable victory, maybe one that looks somewhat similar to Obama in 2012 (although the states may differ a bit). Unless Biden makes a massive mistake or Trump gets a huge boost (e.g. war breaks out that isn't his fault), I don't see the polls moving much at all. I really don't think that there are many undecided voters left in the electorate.
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I'm on that train, have been for years. From where I'm standing, the Trump v. Democracy scoreboard is not in Democracy's favour. Possession is nine tenths of the law; the incumbent is hugely favoured if the outcome is unclear.
People like Farv have expressed a lot more faith in the system's ability to force him out. I would be relieved to be wrong.
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So the DOJ is stepping in to represent Trump in his defamation lawsuit from a woman accusing him of rape. I'm not very knowledgeable about law but this seems at best wildly inappropriate.
WASHINGTON — The White House asked the Justice Department to replace President Trump’s private lawyers to defend against a woman’s accusations that he defamed her last year in denying her claim that he sexually assaulted her a quarter-century ago, Attorney General William P. Barr said on Wednesday.
The Justice Department’s intervention in the lawsuit means that taxpayer money will be used to defend the president, and it threatens the continued viability of the case of the plaintiff, the author E. Jean Carroll.
Mr. Barr defended the decision to intervene, arguing that it was routine for the department to take over lawsuits against federal officials — substituting the government as the defendant.
“This was a normal application of the law,” Mr. Barr said during a news conference in Chicago. “The law is clear. It is done frequently. And the little tempest that is going on is largely because of the bizarre political environment in which we live.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/us/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit.html
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On September 10 2020 15:13 Starlightsun wrote:So the DOJ is stepping in to represent Trump in his defamation lawsuit from a woman accusing him of rape. I'm not very knowledgeable about law but this seems at best wildly inappropriate. Show nested quote +WASHINGTON — The White House asked the Justice Department to replace President Trump’s private lawyers to defend against a woman’s accusations that he defamed her last year in denying her claim that he sexually assaulted her a quarter-century ago, Attorney General William P. Barr said on Wednesday.
The Justice Department’s intervention in the lawsuit means that taxpayer money will be used to defend the president, and it threatens the continued viability of the case of the plaintiff, the author E. Jean Carroll.
Mr. Barr defended the decision to intervene, arguing that it was routine for the department to take over lawsuits against federal officials — substituting the government as the defendant.
“This was a normal application of the law,” Mr. Barr said during a news conference in Chicago. “The law is clear. It is done frequently. And the little tempest that is going on is largely because of the bizarre political environment in which we live.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/us/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit.html
in Trumpland, if it's legal (or legal enough that they can muddy the waters) then it's all good.
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Barr can always claim he didn't know it was illegal like he always does.
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On September 10 2020 06:20 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2020 05:53 JimmiC wrote:On September 10 2020 05:48 Nouar wrote:On September 10 2020 05:46 JimmiC wrote:On September 10 2020 05:38 Nouar wrote:On September 10 2020 05:03 JimmiC wrote:The hits keep coming. Another whistle-blower complaint that Trump and team withheld information and lied to the American people. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schiff-whistleblower-complaint-russian-intel-reports“The whistleblower retaliation complaint filed by former Acting Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis Brian Murphy outlines grave and disturbing allegations that senior White House and Department of Homeland Security officials improperly sought to politicize, manipulate, and censor intelligence in order to benefit President Trump politically,” Schiff said in a statement. “This puts our nation and its security at grave risk.” Schiff went on to call Murphy’s allegations “serious,” saying they include senior administration officials allegedly “suppressing intelligence reports on Russia’s election interference and making false statements to Congress about terrorism threats at our southern border, to modifying intelligence assessments to match the president’s rhetoric on Antifa and minimizing the threat posed by white supremacists.” “We’ve received a whistleblower complaint alleging DHS suppressed intel reports on Russian election interference, altered intel to match false Trump claims and made false statements to Congress,” Schiff, D-Calif., tweeted Wednesday afternoon. “This puts our national security at risk.” To put in relation with this excerpt : -- Woodward reports new details on Russia's election meddling, writing that the NSA and CIA have classified evidence the Russians had placed malware in the election registration systems of at least two Florida counties, St. Lucie and Washington. While there was no evidence the malware had been activated, Woodward writes, it was sophisticated and could erase voters in specific districts. The voting system vendor used by Florida was also used in states across the country. Putting that in context with Trusting Putin and Kim over his own people. Not to mention the bounties he ignored, military comments. It is so scary that this nitwit is in charge of the most powerful country in the world. The more and more you find out, on top of the narcissism and not being a nice person he is just stupid. He is so under qualified it is mind boggling. He just does not have the horsepower. I mean even the spin that he had to lie to the American people to keep them "calm". First if you think this is right then you have to agree that you are too stupid to make good choices (which is probably true of many of Trumps supporters at this point). And you have to have such incredible faith in this man who has a huge history of cheating people (trump university, his charity, the 100's of law suits he has lost, so on and so forth) that this time he is doing whats best for you. And then why would he do this? Because he just loves America so much? Does not seem like it when he trusts all of American's enemies more than he does its own people. I expect some day to read "how an unintelligent grifter born to great wealth was able to con america into becoming their president". Still, all those things matter less to people than keeping guns and denying others abortion I guess. I have lost all hope towards the USA I had a few years ago. I thought it was heading slowly in the right direction, but seeing Trump still be in contention for the presidency after all that. No way in hell. it is frightening when people can look at Donald and think "this is a godly man here to protect our Christian values". The dude is the poster boy for the 7 deadly sins had broken most of the commandments proudly. It is strongly fascinating but oh so disturbing. If you grew up evangelical (as I did) then it makes perfect sense. I grew up bordering on the dominionists, was given Falwell books growing up that advised masturbation was a sin, that sort of thing. Evangelicals are largely some of the most vile, hypocritical scum of the earth. There are exceptions but they're pretty rare. It's mostly an excuse to gather together in a racist, misogynistic, tribalistic group of like minded people and perform the occasional business deal. If there's a part of the bible that won't let them put someone else down or grift for money then it's entirely ignored. These aren't the people clutching pearls over someone taking god's name in vain, they're clutching pearls over anything depicting women as not subservient to men or that depicts something they're afraid of in a positive light. I'd literally describe Trump as on the better side of evangelical figures of power I've met in my life. Many evangelicals are end times cultists who want the US government replaced with a christian theocracy. They want world war 3 to happen so that Jesus will come back to earth again. That's why they're fine with Trump - he is setting up Israel/Iran in a way reminiscent of certain things in revelations (or at least, their interpretations of it) and irritates all the people who tell them that 5th trimester abortions aren't a thing and that they really need to stop talking women's health until they know basic facts. They're not just the people shouting "The End is Coming!", they're the people shouting "The End is Coming, and this is what we need to do to make it come faster!"
Well that’s a sobering thought.
Is a part of their support for Israel have something to do with the end of days prophecy kind of stuff? At least outright Christian supremacy kind of logically follows, but they don’t seem to mind the Jews nearly as much as say Muslims.
A strange phenomenon indeed that makes rather little sense to me. Of course they’re quite a wingnut brand of Christianity.
Might have to do some reading for once, I’ve heard Evangelical Christianity is growing in various places, here actually but Brazil notably its exploding. Wonder if there’s much commonality between them and it’s a global thing or they’re quite localised to particular countries and differ considerably.
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On September 10 2020 14:29 Belisarius wrote:
I'm on that train, have been for years. From where I'm standing, the Trump v. Democracy scoreboard is not in Democracy's favour. Possession is nine tenths of the law; the incumbent is hugely favoured if the outcome is unclear.
People like Farv have expressed a lot more faith in the system's ability to force him out. I would be relieved to be wrong.
The uncertainty is definitely at a high, but it’s worth remembering that Trump is increasingly disliked by every component of the fed’s martial apparatus, and though there’ll be a segment of the rank and file that remains devoted to him, the recent Trump shit talking veterans thing has had a real impact, I think.
If Trump is a slim loser, I don’t think there’ll be nearly enough actual support in DC to allow him to hold onto power or push the issue into the next year. If Trump is a slim winner or there’s the vaunted tie, then things are dicier, for sure.
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As far as i know, the american evangelical churches are heavily invested in missionary missions (that sounds wrong), not only in non christian countries, but also in european countries they are trying to create communities. If you compare those churches to the big german christian churches, the evangelic and catholic churches, they are usually far more radical.
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On September 10 2020 19:28 Broetchenholer wrote:
As far as i know, the american evangelical churches are heavily invested in missionary missions (that sounds wrong), not only in non christian countries, but also in european countries they are trying to create communities. If you compare those churches to the big german christian churches, the evangelic and catholic churches, they are usually far more radical.
Least the ones here and at various Humanist events I’ve attended with ex-evangelicals it seems conversion > doing good. Sometimes they will line up of course but it seems the overarching goal, which I guess makes some sense if not converting people dooms folks to an eternity of suffering. We seem to consist almost entirely lifelong godless fuckers like me and defectors from quite extreme religious backgrounds, not much in the middle.
They do build some fuckoff giant Church complexes though, even over here. Was some controversy relatively recently when a big manufacturing concern went bust when it came out in the wash how much of the business’ money went to the owner’s evangelical church.
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How am I not surprised that the OANN reporter doesn't know that her nose is connected to her mouth and lungs.
Anyway, nothing new in this briefing/rally. Took 2 real questions on his comments. Apparently it was Woodbar's decision to not tell the press that the coronavirus was so deadly. Once again he took 0 responsability for the covid and blamed it all on Chyna.
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Trump. What a magnificent president. I'm so jealous :-D
“I watch some of the shows,” the president said. “I watch Liz MacDonald, she’s fantastic. Fox Business. I watched Lou Dobbs last night. Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura. I watched ‘Fox & Friends’ in the morning.”
Trump also said last night (during a Fox News interview) that he probably wouldn’t read Bob Woodward’s new book because, “I don’t have time.”
I'm wondering if to him, Fox is where the interesting policy briefings are and he considers it official business ? "Watching Fox helps me decide your future !"
The president claimed Biden was “perfectly happy” to endanger Americans’ lives for political gain.
And he tells that when he's accused of downplaying a pandemic that cost nearly 200k lives in the US. Oh god the balls he has.
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I mean, Trump has always pushed his idealistic narrative rather than one based in fact, and I don't see that changing... well, ever. There's no accountability because there's no reason for him to pretend he's responsible. He doesn't gain from saying "Yeah, I made a choice that killed 200,000 people, and I'm sorry.". He's better off saying that the recording was doctored and Woodward is an agent of the deep state and the radical left terrorist organisation ANTIFA, because there apparently aren't enough stops in the governmental system to prevent the president from pushing his own agenda as dishonestly as he likes.
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I wonder if Barr will yank the cord on his October surprise early due to Trump's recent troubles. I'd say almost 100% he has something they are waiting on, just a matter of what. I imagine Biden will be subpoena'd.
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Hard to imagine what kind of surprise that might be, they've been trying to stick stuff on him for months, and everything there is is the kind of thing that moderates won't care, and anyone further left already knows and has made their decision anyway. The dude's a marshmallow. All he has to do in any debate with Trump is replay Trump's actions and statements and reveals in the last 4 weeks alone and let him try to explain any of it.
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On September 11 2020 09:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Hard to imagine what kind of surprise that might be, they've been trying to stick stuff on him for months, and everything there is is the kind of thing that moderates won't care, and anyone further left already knows and has made their decision anyway. The dude's a marshmallow. All he has to do in any debate with Trump is replay Trump's actions and statements and reveals in the last 4 weeks alone and let him try to explain any of it.
I think it will be abuse of power by some ridiculous stretch about Biden connecting his son to Ukraine corruption.
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On September 11 2020 09:54 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2020 09:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Hard to imagine what kind of surprise that might be, they've been trying to stick stuff on him for months, and everything there is is the kind of thing that moderates won't care, and anyone further left already knows and has made their decision anyway. The dude's a marshmallow. All he has to do in any debate with Trump is replay Trump's actions and statements and reveals in the last 4 weeks alone and let him try to explain any of it. I think it will be abuse of power by some ridiculous stretch about Biden connecting his son to Ukraine corruption.
It's going to be way, way dumber than that based on the mailers I'm getting. Newest one came in today saying that the radical left had taken over the demorcatic party, with a frowning white lady on the back.
I'm pretty sure it'll be something along the lines of "Biden is actually a clone of Stalin".
On September 10 2020 19:11 Wombat_NI_RVANA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2020 06:20 Nevuk wrote:On September 10 2020 05:53 JimmiC wrote:On September 10 2020 05:48 Nouar wrote:On September 10 2020 05:46 JimmiC wrote:On September 10 2020 05:38 Nouar wrote:On September 10 2020 05:03 JimmiC wrote:The hits keep coming. Another whistle-blower complaint that Trump and team withheld information and lied to the American people. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schiff-whistleblower-complaint-russian-intel-reports“The whistleblower retaliation complaint filed by former Acting Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis Brian Murphy outlines grave and disturbing allegations that senior White House and Department of Homeland Security officials improperly sought to politicize, manipulate, and censor intelligence in order to benefit President Trump politically,” Schiff said in a statement. “This puts our nation and its security at grave risk.” Schiff went on to call Murphy’s allegations “serious,” saying they include senior administration officials allegedly “suppressing intelligence reports on Russia’s election interference and making false statements to Congress about terrorism threats at our southern border, to modifying intelligence assessments to match the president’s rhetoric on Antifa and minimizing the threat posed by white supremacists.” “We’ve received a whistleblower complaint alleging DHS suppressed intel reports on Russian election interference, altered intel to match false Trump claims and made false statements to Congress,” Schiff, D-Calif., tweeted Wednesday afternoon. “This puts our national security at risk.” To put in relation with this excerpt : -- Woodward reports new details on Russia's election meddling, writing that the NSA and CIA have classified evidence the Russians had placed malware in the election registration systems of at least two Florida counties, St. Lucie and Washington. While there was no evidence the malware had been activated, Woodward writes, it was sophisticated and could erase voters in specific districts. The voting system vendor used by Florida was also used in states across the country. Putting that in context with Trusting Putin and Kim over his own people. Not to mention the bounties he ignored, military comments. It is so scary that this nitwit is in charge of the most powerful country in the world. The more and more you find out, on top of the narcissism and not being a nice person he is just stupid. He is so under qualified it is mind boggling. He just does not have the horsepower. I mean even the spin that he had to lie to the American people to keep them "calm". First if you think this is right then you have to agree that you are too stupid to make good choices (which is probably true of many of Trumps supporters at this point). And you have to have such incredible faith in this man who has a huge history of cheating people (trump university, his charity, the 100's of law suits he has lost, so on and so forth) that this time he is doing whats best for you. And then why would he do this? Because he just loves America so much? Does not seem like it when he trusts all of American's enemies more than he does its own people. I expect some day to read "how an unintelligent grifter born to great wealth was able to con america into becoming their president". Still, all those things matter less to people than keeping guns and denying others abortion I guess. I have lost all hope towards the USA I had a few years ago. I thought it was heading slowly in the right direction, but seeing Trump still be in contention for the presidency after all that. No way in hell. it is frightening when people can look at Donald and think "this is a godly man here to protect our Christian values". The dude is the poster boy for the 7 deadly sins had broken most of the commandments proudly. It is strongly fascinating but oh so disturbing. If you grew up evangelical (as I did) then it makes perfect sense. I grew up bordering on the dominionists, was given Falwell books growing up that advised masturbation was a sin, that sort of thing. Evangelicals are largely some of the most vile, hypocritical scum of the earth. There are exceptions but they're pretty rare. It's mostly an excuse to gather together in a racist, misogynistic, tribalistic group of like minded people and perform the occasional business deal. If there's a part of the bible that won't let them put someone else down or grift for money then it's entirely ignored. These aren't the people clutching pearls over someone taking god's name in vain, they're clutching pearls over anything depicting women as not subservient to men or that depicts something they're afraid of in a positive light. I'd literally describe Trump as on the better side of evangelical figures of power I've met in my life. Many evangelicals are end times cultists who want the US government replaced with a christian theocracy. They want world war 3 to happen so that Jesus will come back to earth again. That's why they're fine with Trump - he is setting up Israel/Iran in a way reminiscent of certain things in revelations (or at least, their interpretations of it) and irritates all the people who tell them that 5th trimester abortions aren't a thing and that they really need to stop talking women's health until they know basic facts. They're not just the people shouting "The End is Coming!", they're the people shouting "The End is Coming, and this is what we need to do to make it come faster!" Well that’s a sobering thought. A strange phenomenon indeed that makes rather little sense to me. Of course they’re quite a wingnut brand of Christianity. Might have to do some reading for once, I’ve heard Evangelical Christianity is growing in various places, here actually but Brazil notably its exploding. Wonder if there’s much commonality between them and it’s a global thing or they’re quite localised to particular countries and differ considerably.
Recall how "grab them by the pussy" wasn't a big issue for many evangelicals, and "locker room talk" actually worked as a line? It's because that's how many of them expect men to behave. I wouldn't say they teach it, but they teach a lot of things very adjacent to that behavior about sexuality that encourage it as normal behavior (ie women are never supposed to consent to sex and men are supposed to constantly demand it, and only the women are ever punished by the congregation if something happens).
Trump, at least, is obvious about how awful of a person he is. Evangelicals I find to behave similarly behind closed doors, but talk about how moral they are in the open, constantly.
They believe that everyone is evil and that you can repent at the last second and make it into heaven, so the only truly good thing you can do is convert other people so they too will be rewarded in the after life - there's no reason, at all, to be good on earth according to the theology I was raised with (this is common to most of christianity, but evangelicalism puts the emphasis very heavily on the fact that it's pointless to be a good person).
Is a part of their support for Israel have something to do with the end of days prophecy kind of stuff? At least outright Christian supremacy kind of logically follows, but they don’t seem to mind the Jews nearly as much as say Muslims.
Yes, that's correct. The belief is that Israel has to be inhabited by jewish people for the end times to come, as the bible references them being there in revelations.
They're pretty anti-semitic as well, but they want Israel to exist. Or technically, 10,000 of them and everyone else in the region dead, but they generally don't say that part out loud. (look up a "fun" movie called "the accidental bar mitzvah" if you want to see perfect examples of it. It's about an evangelical kid trying to convert jewish people, featuring "jews for jesus", which is considered a christian evangelical group by all jewish authorities. If there's any doubt that they may be jewish, refer to the scene where the "Jewish" father tears his clothes and screams "Baruch atah Adonai" in ... anger).
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On September 11 2020 09:54 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2020 09:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Hard to imagine what kind of surprise that might be, they've been trying to stick stuff on him for months, and everything there is is the kind of thing that moderates won't care, and anyone further left already knows and has made their decision anyway. The dude's a marshmallow. All he has to do in any debate with Trump is replay Trump's actions and statements and reveals in the last 4 weeks alone and let him try to explain any of it. I think it will be abuse of power by some ridiculous stretch about Biden connecting his son to Ukraine corruption.
I mean just because it isn't Trump doesn't mean it isn't corrupt and bad.
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On September 11 2020 10:32 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2020 10:01 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 11 2020 09:54 Mohdoo wrote:On September 11 2020 09:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Hard to imagine what kind of surprise that might be, they've been trying to stick stuff on him for months, and everything there is is the kind of thing that moderates won't care, and anyone further left already knows and has made their decision anyway. The dude's a marshmallow. All he has to do in any debate with Trump is replay Trump's actions and statements and reveals in the last 4 weeks alone and let him try to explain any of it. I think it will be abuse of power by some ridiculous stretch about Biden connecting his son to Ukraine corruption. I mean just because it isn't Trump doesn't mean it isn't corrupt and bad. And just because it was a democrat doesn't mean it was corrupt and bad.
Correct.
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