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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On May 01 2020 02:57 Mohdoo wrote: Covid is hands down the best thing to happen to Biden's campaign. Numbers are solid, basically no one is talking about his sexual assault stuff, Trump is self sabotaging, and most importantly, Biden is able to just hide forever. Biden doesn't need to be campaigning, just advertising. The less he says and the less people remember he exists before November, the better. Biden is making the smart move here. When someone is digging their own grave, don't fight them for the shovel | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On April 30 2020 08:25 JimmiC wrote: This article is very critical of Biden and his campaign. I don't think they are being very biased at all. There was nothing like this on "beers" or Trump on Fox news, so while they most definitely lean left, they are not going to stop reporting on negative things just because he on their side. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-new-york-times/index.html Wapo as well. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/495362-washington-post-editorial-board-calls-for-biden-to-address-tara-reade That's like willfully ignoring the exact things I said and trying to make another point? The coverage has been better since the Larry King tapes forced the media's hand a bit, and I never claimed bias in every single article ever written about it, but specifically a few high profile ones mostly from before the Larry King tapes. It's great to see those linked articles though and that finally the allegations are being treated with the seriousness it deserves. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On May 01 2020 01:52 mahrgell wrote: Well, sure, the impact on the "economy" is pretty much the same here. But the impact on people's financial survival is drastically different. And Kurzarbeit also has the advantage of still being employed. If you are 50+ and would have troubles finding a new job, knowing that you can continue with your current employer once tthe situation allows it, this alone is extremely valuable. My comment was not intended to be a counterpoint to yours. Only a bit of more information for our firends across the Atlantic. On May 01 2020 02:55 Nyxisto wrote: Work doesn't just exist to earn money, it provides structure. Being unemployed and having nothing to do is psychologically one of the most harmful things that can happen to people, so I don't think it's surprising that people seek employment. I think this is a fallacy. There is a lot of stigma attached to being unemployed, "useless" to society. People find stuff to do, if they are allowed to and not pressured into a system that doesn't provide them with any more than occupational therapy. | ||
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Day_Walker
104 Posts
On May 01 2020 02:55 Nyxisto wrote: Work doesn't just exist to earn money, it provides structure. Being unemployed and having nothing to do is psychologically one of the most harmful things that can happen to people, so I don't think it's surprising that people seek employment. Being poor and having inadequate food, housing, and medical care is psychologically one of the most harmful things that can happen to people, so I don't think it's surprising that people seek employment. Fixed that for you. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On May 01 2020 04:37 Day_Walker wrote: Being poor and having inadequate food, housing, and medical care is psychologically one of the most harmful things that can happen to people, so I don't think it's surprising that people seek employment. Fixed that for you. Both are true. People need purpose. But more than that, they need basic necessities. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On May 01 2020 04:37 Day_Walker wrote: Being poor and having inadequate food, housing, and medical care is psychologically one of the most harmful things that can happen to people, so I don't think it's surprising that people seek employment. Fixed that for you. I think you should read up on the literature because controlling for income there is still significant psychological harm done in particular to men by being out of work for prolonged amounts of time. Men tend to develop higher rates of substance abuse, deteriorating health and mental issues like anxiety. It's a lack of proper socialisation and a feeling of having a useful role in society that hits people hard, even adjusting for income. This is particularly obvious when it comes to young men out of the workforce living with their parents, who have their material needs met but suffer from social alienation. It's become a particular phenomenon in the recent 10 years. the NEET demographic has gotten a lot of attention and it's not because they're materially deprived. (In fact if they were materially deprived they could not afford to stay voluntarily out of the workforce) On May 01 2020 04:08 JimmiC wrote: Just because society has created a situation where many people find purpose and structure in their job does not mean that is the only place to do it. There is many, many people who find it other ways, arts, studies, hobbies so on. There are many many retired people who are psychologically well and do not work, and many younger as well. Hobbies don't tend to fill the same role that work has, because the character of hobbies is that they're optional. The thing that distinguishes work from recreational activity is that work creates structures of dependence, and having people depend on you gives meaning that hobbies cannot. There aren' many healthy permanently unemployed young people, and even for people in advanced age staying active and engaged in work is a strong predictor of longevity. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4779 Posts
People need their time to be filled up. They need something to do. Something is not necessarily employment. However, our society evolved into a necessary supply and demand kind of jig. So people need to be employed if other people want their businesses to thrive. I can guarantee you that people that need to bust their body for 30 years just to barely get by and barely survive their pension years wouldn't work there for 30 years if they were given the choice to do something meaningful in their lives instead. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On May 01 2020 06:01 Uldridge wrote: Let's rephrase your premise, Nyxisto. People need their time to be filled up. They need something to do. Something is not necessarily employment. However, our society evolved into a necessary supply and demand kind of jig. So people need to be employed if other people want their businesses to thrive. I can guarantee you that people that need to bust their body for 30 years just to barely get by and barely survive their pension years wouldn't work there for 30 years if they were given the choice to do something meaningful in their lives instead. Yup, plenty of manual labor people are deeply sad about how much their bodies suffered by their 50s. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23235 Posts
On May 01 2020 02:55 Nyxisto wrote: Work doesn't just exist to earn money, it provides structure. Being unemployed and having nothing to do is psychologically one of the most harmful things that can happen to people, so I don't think it's surprising that people seek employment. This sounds like it was lifted directly from a supporter of The Vagrancy Act of 1866 | ||
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pmh
1352 Posts
On May 01 2020 02:57 Mohdoo wrote: Covid is hands down the best thing to happen to Biden's campaign. Numbers are solid, basically no one is talking about his sexual assault stuff, Trump is self sabotaging, and most importantly, Biden is able to just hide forever. Biden doesn't need to be campaigning, just advertising. The less he says and the less people remember he exists before November, the better. Yes that is somewhat true,but at the same time beeing this invisable can not be a good thing either and i find it kinda worrysome. Maybe he does try to be visable and just cant get the attention right now,its ok for now but if his invisability lasts till september then maybe its to late. Biden has not disapointed because he simply does not seem to be there at all and at the same time he has also failed to impress. Keeping quiet is the safe thing to do and i dont really know what he could have done, but at one point he has to make his mark thats for sure. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
8983 Posts
The COVID-19 pandemic is delivering the biggest shock to the global energy system in seven decades, according to a new report by the International Energy Agency. Global energy demand is expected to fall by 6% this year, seven times the decline brought by the financial crisis 10 years ago. IEA projections show oil and gas being hit hard. But demand for coal could fall by an extraordinary 8% — the largest decline since World War II. Not all the drop in demand was because of the coronavirus; in the U.S. especially, a large share was caused by a warmer-than-average winter. The IEA says the lower emissions will reduce harmful greenhouse gas emissions that lead to climate change by almost 8% this year, which would be the largest annual decrease ever recorded. But the U.N. has said global emissions must be cut that much every year for the next decade in order to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius and avoid its worst impacts. Posting from phone but source is NPR. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21687 Posts
On May 01 2020 08:22 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Yeah, except a one time drop in emissions for a few months isn't going to do anything.Here's your good news for the day. The climate is positively responding to humans not being out and about and we could actually start to see some reverses of the damage done. Posting from phone but source is NPR. Gz, the end of the world is postponed for 2 months, lets celebrate... | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
8983 Posts
On May 01 2020 08:25 Gorsameth wrote: Yeah, except a one time drop in emissions for a few months isn't going to do anything. Gz, the end of the world is postponed for 2 months, lets celebrate... Take the little good news there is. The point being, wishful thinking people take this little dose and think how they've managed so far. Will commutes to work slow? Will wfh remain a thing for a lot of jobs that aren't essential to have someone at the office? Can we continue the reduction in emissions? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23235 Posts
On May 01 2020 08:25 Gorsameth wrote: Yeah, except a one time drop in emissions for a few months isn't going to do anything. Gz, the end of the world is postponed for 2 months, lets celebrate... If we can reorganize our society to these levels of emissions (seems survivable enough) then we can actually be on track for mitigating climate change. Makes me sorta see the people hoping to return to anything like we had before as bewilderingly oblivious. | ||
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