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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23230 Posts
On March 23 2020 01:45 mierin wrote: I guess I phrased what I wanted to say incorrectly. I agree that it's definitely your standard corruption/cronyism. Just have a huge problem with it. The confusion imo is that standard corruption and cronyism can lead to seemingly disconnected people and events implicitly collaborating toward mutual interests without any expressed agreements or "conspiracy". When viewed through a lens of class analysis it can be sort of understood through game theory, hence the Risk analogy. If you're a marginal player on the board occupying a key space it can be in multiple non-conspiring parties interest to attack from multiple sides in a mutual uncoordinated attempt to dislodge you. Similarly, class analysis suggests that competing wealthy parties can see a mutual interest in the dislodging of other marginal/targeted players while maintaining/improving their overall positions on the board. Which is just to say the degree of coordination is less consequential than the outcomes derived for the most vulnerable parties. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35147 Posts
On March 23 2020 01:47 Mohdoo wrote: Now that we are at a point where Republicans are agreeing "Americans shouldn't have to pay medical expenses for ____", I want to see Democrats pushing "expand the cares act to cover cancer as well". A very easy argument to make imo. Based on agreeing we shouldn't leave people with Corona costs, why cancer? Because once you try to go passed the little dose of "socialism" to fix a unique need and bobbleheads can explain away, then you'd have to admit something is wrong in the first place. There's a whole masquerade going on about normalcy and one Trump is out of the white house things will go back to the way it was. People are falling for the shell game of normalcy being good in the first place. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
I am a little worried about Biden/Bernie. I think it is basically certain that they'll get coronavirus, and they are very high risk. Klobuchar as a VP pick is especially bad in that light, in light of how poorly she treats employees. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23230 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On March 23 2020 02:43 GreenHorizons wrote: Rand Paul tested positive for COVID-19. He's the first confirmed case in the Senate https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1241780756617273345 The irony being he voted against the coronavirus relief bill. Also his dad was quite early on calling the virus a hoax. Perhaps more worryingly, he visited the Senate gym and had lunch with other senators (good social distancing senators!) which has Romney and others debating if they should isolate. Both the Pauls are doctors too which is especially worrying. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On March 23 2020 04:22 PhoenixVoid wrote: The irony being he voted against the coronavirus relief bill. Also his dad was quite early on calling the virus a hoax. Perhaps more worryingly, he visited the Senate gym and had lunch with other senators (good social distancing senators!) which has Romney and others debating if they should isolate. Both the Pauls are doctors too which is especially worrying. Plenty of physicians are astoundingly stupid. It only takes mildly above-average intelligence to get through medical school. The majority of getting through medical school and residency is work ethic, discipline, and study skills. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On March 23 2020 10:08 Mohdoo wrote: Giant Bill failed. Amazing. Now Republicans need to quickly get a new one with Democrats support! This is a crazy situation. Governors will have to step in more aggressively now. I’m sure they’ll get it done eventually. I’m pleased to see that at least for now, there’s widespread opposition to the corporate bailout portion of the bill. No way Democrats would stand up for that on their own - maybe they’re getting phone calls urging them to fight that fight? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
The awe for the presidents office is still so ingrained in US journalists. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35147 Posts
On March 23 2020 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: It's insane how amazingly stupid Trumps press conferences are on the crisis. I wonder why reporters even ask him questions anymore. There is no value in writing down what he says at all. In a way it's facilitating his bullshitting by reporting on it. They should clearly state they are not interested in hearing from him and ask for Fauci or someone else knowledgeable. The awe for the presidents office is still so ingrained in US journalists. It's their job to ask questions, so Trump says something dumb, so it can be made a headline, so papers sell/ads get served. Hurray filters 1 & 2. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1058 Posts
On March 23 2020 11:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: It's insane how amazingly stupid Trumps press conferences are on the crisis. I wonder why reporters even ask him questions anymore. There is no value in writing down what he says at all. In a way it's facilitating his bullshitting by reporting on it. They should clearly state they are not interested in hearing from him and ask for Fauci or someone else knowledgeable. The awe for the presidents office is still so ingrained in US journalists. Are reporters there to get a statement or make a statement? My understanding is that they're there to get a statement. The president is still the leader of the United States, no matter how shitty he is, so getting a statement from him makes sense. Asking the president for someone more knowledgeable is making a statement. They can go ask questions of doctors or people in the CDC via other means than going to a presidential press conference. Many have done so. There's not a lot of new news on the whole thing. Update the numbers (they have a global kill count on realclearpolitics.com now), say a little bit about the updates and lack thereof of finding a cure (which is expected), and give some updates on the relief packages (which are stalled in the senate, shocker /s). It's a 24 hour news cycle with nothing new to report, so might as well get the next stupid statement from Trump. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23230 Posts
On March 23 2020 13:31 Mohdoo wrote: Lots of people can't pay their rent due in 2 weeks. Shit is about to get super fucked Hard to imagine the monstrous individual that would expect a rent payment on the 1st or threaten the people living there if they didn't have it. I have low opinions of landlords though, so not too hard. On Trump's press conferences they should just stop going/airing them. They just sit there getting lied to looking for gotcha quotes (that never get him) anyway. | ||
Falling
Canada11350 Posts
I have low opinions of landlords though, so not too hard. That's nice. They're just people. And a fair number use the rent to pay for the mortgage on that house, so while I doubt they'll be turfing, things won't be easy for landlords either if renters can't pay. Cascading effect no matter who you have a low opinion of. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23230 Posts
On March 23 2020 17:42 Falling wrote: That's nice. They're just people. And a fair number use the rent to pay for the mortgage on that house, so while I doubt they'll be turfing, things won't be easy for landlords either if renters can't pay. Cascading effect no matter who you have a low opinion of. We're all just people. I hope it ends up with landlords only owning the house they live in personally and everyone without a home ends up with one. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On March 23 2020 17:27 GreenHorizons wrote: Hard to imagine the monstrous individual that would expect a rent payment on the 1st or threaten the people living there if they didn't have it. I have low opinions of landlords though, so not too hard. On March 23 2020 08:00 Emnjay808 wrote: My mom has multiple properties that she rents out. If they don’t pay rent then that’s nearly 10k/month she is missing to pay mortgage on. It’s gonna be rough. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23230 Posts
Are those renters having homes and her only owning the home she lives in supposed to be a bad thing? | ||
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Falling
Canada11350 Posts
Regardless, landlords have done nothing to earn dislike simply by ownership. Whats the solution? Regulate the number of properties you can own? The size too? They already regulate the number of dwellings. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10705 Posts
I only had good experiences with mine, the first was my city, the second a private person that made decent money (doctor) and now it's some company that does the administrative stuff but the flat is owned privately. If shit needs fixing it gets done, rents are stable and all i have to do is pay rent once a month... Maybe it would be cheaper in the long run to own, but it also would be hell of a lot more work. | ||
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