EPTUS Politics Mega-thread - Page 1593
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Doodsmack
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xDaunt
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On June 27 2019 11:03 KwarK wrote: Do you recall how last week Trump said he ordered an attack on Iran only to countermand it 15 minutes before the strike because he suddenly realized (?) that people might get hurt in the attack. Obama made peace with Iran while Trump tried to attack them last week. I'm not entirely sure how you see the peace treaty as more likely to lead to war with Iran than the military attack but I'm absolutely confident that you won't explain it to us either way. What I care about is the bottom line. And I’m not so sure that Trump didn’t manufacture the changing of his mind. What he has done is establish a clear red line for Iran. | ||
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Introvert
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xDaunt
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Introvert
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edit: good ninja | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On June 27 2019 11:07 Introvert wrote: For the record Trump claims he never actually gave the go ahead for the strike. Everything was prepped, but no "go" was ever given. His tweet said the planes were "ten minutes" from their targets when he called it off. | ||
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Ben...
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Danglars
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[Muddle from the back room] Feedback. Chuck Todd apologizes More Feedback. "I need to go to the restroom" "I'm just gonna grab my binder" | ||
KwarK
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On June 27 2019 11:04 xDaunt wrote: It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Iran now that the new sanctions are in place. Their nuts are really in a vice. ??? The US hasn't even made any demands in exchange for sanctions relief. Nothing will happen because the US isn't sanctioning Iran for any reason other than to sanction Iran. The normal plan is to sanction the country to make them agree to your demands in exchange for ending the sanctions. We did that and it worked and Iran agreed to our demands. We then changed our mind and slapped the sanctions back on, although they're still happily selling oil to China and China is buying as much as Iran can produce. It turns out that it's hard to reimpose a sanctions regime after unilaterally blowing up the deal you made with your old sanctions regime. What Trump has done is allow Iran to get out of their treaty obligations while still selling their oil internationally. The prior agreement was that they had to pick one because China, along with all other signatories, had pledged to reimpose all sanctions if Iran breached the agreement. But Iran didn't breach the agreement, the US did, and so Iran is happily selling their oil to China and China is looking incredulously at the US while Trump demands that they reimpose sanctions. https://www.ft.com/content/6b944786-9809-11e9-8cfb-30c211dcd229 If Iran's nuts are in a vice then how come they're out of the treaty obligations and out of the international sanctions regime? | ||
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KwarK
United States42955 Posts
On June 27 2019 11:06 xDaunt wrote: What I care about is the bottom line. And I’m not so sure that Trump didn’t manufacture the changing of his mind. What he has done is establish a clear red line for Iran. Where are you getting this clear red line from? Trump said that he was going to attack until he learned that the missiles are dangerous and that people could get hurt which was unacceptable to him so he called off the attack. Where in that are you seeing a tough red line? Or hell, any kind of coherent message? If we could take Trump at his word, which we obviously cannot, the message there would be that Iran can do what they like because Trump is a very dedicated pacifist and will not order the use of weapons if there is any risk to human life. That's the text of what he said. It's not true, but it's what he said. | ||
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Introvert
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Danglars
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Then transitions to hating on thoughts and prayers. Faith without works is dead? Man, Booker is surrendering his best elements prior to deciding to run for 2020. | ||
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xDaunt
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Gahlo
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On June 27 2019 11:25 Danglars wrote: Booker first mention on assault rifles. Knowing someone killed by an assault rifle (literally 1% chance it really was one) Then transitions to hating on thoughts and prayers. Faith without works is dead? Man, Booker is surrendering his best elements prior to deciding to run for 2020. That Bible bruh. | ||
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Achamian
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They shouldn’t even call this a debate, it should be called “get to know your candidates” | ||
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xDaunt
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micronesia
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On June 27 2019 11:28 Achamian wrote: Next election cycle, they have to have a max 7 candidates per day. They shouldn’t even call this a debate, it should be called “get to know your candidates” I think some of us were saying exactly the same thing in the 2016 Republican Primary "debates." I'm not sure what a good solution is though. Maybe have more days and keep the roster for each debate a secret or something. Make it into some type of a strange reality show. | ||
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Ben...
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He seems massively outclassed by Castro, Warren, and to a smaller extent, Booker. | ||
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xDaunt
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