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On June 24 2019 02:51 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 02:35 IyMoon wrote:On June 24 2019 02:06 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 01:58 Simberto wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:
Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished.
Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? In any case proceedings would be so long that there is basically no chance she would be fired while in office (well, except if she is reelected) due to not being a citizen, which could probably be a first :D I doubt that a citizenship can be revoked, otherwise you might end up with people without any state they belong to, which is something that pretty much every law tries to avoid very hard, because it is pretty bad. On June 24 2019 01:57 farvacola wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? Yep, that can and does happen. Really? And what does happen to those people? They probably had to reject their previous citizenship to gain US citizenship? What if the previous state doesn't want them back? Do they just end up having to live in international waters because no state allows them to enter? How does that work? She probably has another citizenship, like Somali. I don't think the US forces people to choose between theirs. On the contrary, it can sometimes be a big issue : children of foreign servicemen in NATO for example, or children born during a trip, sometimes end up with a US citizenship unknowingly, which means they are subjected to the IRS even on some revenues they earned as an adult dozens of years later. We often see requests for dozens of thousands of $ to people who were in the US a few days/weeks when they were born and were unaware. It's a pain to fix. Apatrids (if the word exists in english ?) is indeed a big issue, which is why there was a debate here to strip ISIS terrorists of their citizenship if they were only french officially. No, the US makes you reject other citizenship except for a few countries. In most cases to become a US citizen you MUST revoke your other status This is not how it works. The US does not have formal dual citizenship status but very few places do have it. However the US, like most countries, offers informal dual citizenship. How that works is the US gov views you solely as a citizen of the US and the other country views you solely as their citizen. Neither recognizes the claim of the other. When I naturalize in a few weeks the US government will ask that I tell them that I have rejected British citizenship but the British government doesn't care what I tell the Americans.
Which completely screws you on taxes as the US doesn't care in which country you get your salary :p
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On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448
Do you have a better source? Can't say I trust the word of someone who is going to say "anti-semites are emboldened" in that context.
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On June 24 2019 03:10 Nebuchad wrote:Do you have a better source? Can't say I trust the word of someone who is going to say "anti-semites are emboldened" in that context.
Yeah, I thought the same. What he presents as prove does sound somewhat convincing, but the choice of words in a lot of cases feels like he is trying to push a clear agenda... Doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong, but you can fabricate a lot of stuff to look convincing when only presenting what proves your point.
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On June 24 2019 02:53 JimmiC wrote:
Why do people with major skeletons in their closet get into politics? How do they not realize it is going to come.out?
Depending on who your supporters are, sometimes those skeletons don't matter. Case in point: Donald Trump arguably has more skeletons in his closet than any other modern political figure, yet he still became president (at least once).
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On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448
Hopefully true. She's a huge liability for the party and contributed nothing.
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On June 24 2019 03:30 Mohdoo wrote:Hopefully true. She's a huge liability for the party and contributed nothing.
Hard disagree. Could you flesh out why you think this a bit more? I don't want to argue against things that you don't believe.
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United States42008 Posts
On June 24 2019 03:04 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 02:51 KwarK wrote:On June 24 2019 02:35 IyMoon wrote:On June 24 2019 02:06 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 01:58 Simberto wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? In any case proceedings would be so long that there is basically no chance she would be fired while in office (well, except if she is reelected) due to not being a citizen, which could probably be a first :D I doubt that a citizenship can be revoked, otherwise you might end up with people without any state they belong to, which is something that pretty much every law tries to avoid very hard, because it is pretty bad. On June 24 2019 01:57 farvacola wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? Yep, that can and does happen. Really? And what does happen to those people? They probably had to reject their previous citizenship to gain US citizenship? What if the previous state doesn't want them back? Do they just end up having to live in international waters because no state allows them to enter? How does that work? She probably has another citizenship, like Somali. I don't think the US forces people to choose between theirs. On the contrary, it can sometimes be a big issue : children of foreign servicemen in NATO for example, or children born during a trip, sometimes end up with a US citizenship unknowingly, which means they are subjected to the IRS even on some revenues they earned as an adult dozens of years later. We often see requests for dozens of thousands of $ to people who were in the US a few days/weeks when they were born and were unaware. It's a pain to fix. Apatrids (if the word exists in english ?) is indeed a big issue, which is why there was a debate here to strip ISIS terrorists of their citizenship if they were only french officially. No, the US makes you reject other citizenship except for a few countries. In most cases to become a US citizen you MUST revoke your other status This is not how it works. The US does not have formal dual citizenship status but very few places do have it. However the US, like most countries, offers informal dual citizenship. How that works is the US gov views you solely as a citizen of the US and the other country views you solely as their citizen. Neither recognizes the claim of the other. When I naturalize in a few weeks the US government will ask that I tell them that I have rejected British citizenship but the British government doesn't care what I tell the Americans. Which completely screws you on taxes as the US doesn't care in which country you get your salary :p
Yes and no. The US gov does expect all people it believes are citizens to file taxes annually, even if you've never set foot in the US and have no idea that you're a US citizen. But the foreign income exclusion is substantial. You're unlikely to actually owe taxes.
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On June 24 2019 03:30 Mohdoo wrote:Hopefully true. She's a huge liability for the party and contributed nothing.
The only congress member that Democrats need to get rid of faster than Omar is AOC.
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On June 24 2019 03:40 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 03:04 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 02:51 KwarK wrote:On June 24 2019 02:35 IyMoon wrote:On June 24 2019 02:06 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 01:58 Simberto wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? In any case proceedings would be so long that there is basically no chance she would be fired while in office (well, except if she is reelected) due to not being a citizen, which could probably be a first :D I doubt that a citizenship can be revoked, otherwise you might end up with people without any state they belong to, which is something that pretty much every law tries to avoid very hard, because it is pretty bad. On June 24 2019 01:57 farvacola wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? Yep, that can and does happen. Really? And what does happen to those people? They probably had to reject their previous citizenship to gain US citizenship? What if the previous state doesn't want them back? Do they just end up having to live in international waters because no state allows them to enter? How does that work? She probably has another citizenship, like Somali. I don't think the US forces people to choose between theirs. On the contrary, it can sometimes be a big issue : children of foreign servicemen in NATO for example, or children born during a trip, sometimes end up with a US citizenship unknowingly, which means they are subjected to the IRS even on some revenues they earned as an adult dozens of years later. We often see requests for dozens of thousands of $ to people who were in the US a few days/weeks when they were born and were unaware. It's a pain to fix. Apatrids (if the word exists in english ?) is indeed a big issue, which is why there was a debate here to strip ISIS terrorists of their citizenship if they were only french officially. No, the US makes you reject other citizenship except for a few countries. In most cases to become a US citizen you MUST revoke your other status This is not how it works. The US does not have formal dual citizenship status but very few places do have it. However the US, like most countries, offers informal dual citizenship. How that works is the US gov views you solely as a citizen of the US and the other country views you solely as their citizen. Neither recognizes the claim of the other. When I naturalize in a few weeks the US government will ask that I tell them that I have rejected British citizenship but the British government doesn't care what I tell the Americans. Which completely screws you on taxes as the US doesn't care in which country you get your salary :p Yes and no. The US gov does expect all people it believes are citizens to file taxes annually, even if you've never set foot in the US and have no idea that you're a US citizen. But the foreign income exclusion is substantial. You're unlikely to actually owe taxes.
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/us-citizens-and-resident-aliens-abroad
Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside.
In normal cases this might be fine, but for a lot of people with these citizenship issues, it is still a nightmare, as they don't even know that they should file, thus did not request these exemptions.
I don't have an english link to provide, but here is one in French : https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/editos-analyses/le-cauchemar-fiscal-de-ces-francais-nes-aux-etats-unis-130421 .
The reason for this is called FATCA, requiring banks to provide infos on current assets exceeding 50k held abroad, under threat of forbidding the banks to do business in the US, while not reciprocating. It lead to a lot of issues, as years of tax were suddenly requested to people.
Furthermore, the tripled the price to relinquish your US nationality to more than 2000$...
That's deviating a lot from Ilhan Omar, so I'll stop there (guess it's still somewhat US politics though...)
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On June 24 2019 03:58 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 03:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Hopefully true. She's a huge liability for the party and contributed nothing. The only congress member that Democrats need to get rid of faster than Omar is AOC.
I would say "Democrat establishment" rather than "Democrats", because for many younger liberals and progressives she's doing a great job of pulling the Democratic party leftward (similar to what Bernie does during presidential campaigns) and she calls out bullshit really well.
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On June 24 2019 04:07 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 03:40 KwarK wrote:On June 24 2019 03:04 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 02:51 KwarK wrote:On June 24 2019 02:35 IyMoon wrote:On June 24 2019 02:06 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 01:58 Simberto wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? In any case proceedings would be so long that there is basically no chance she would be fired while in office (well, except if she is reelected) due to not being a citizen, which could probably be a first :D I doubt that a citizenship can be revoked, otherwise you might end up with people without any state they belong to, which is something that pretty much every law tries to avoid very hard, because it is pretty bad. On June 24 2019 01:57 farvacola wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? Yep, that can and does happen. Really? And what does happen to those people? They probably had to reject their previous citizenship to gain US citizenship? What if the previous state doesn't want them back? Do they just end up having to live in international waters because no state allows them to enter? How does that work? She probably has another citizenship, like Somali. I don't think the US forces people to choose between theirs. On the contrary, it can sometimes be a big issue : children of foreign servicemen in NATO for example, or children born during a trip, sometimes end up with a US citizenship unknowingly, which means they are subjected to the IRS even on some revenues they earned as an adult dozens of years later. We often see requests for dozens of thousands of $ to people who were in the US a few days/weeks when they were born and were unaware. It's a pain to fix. Apatrids (if the word exists in english ?) is indeed a big issue, which is why there was a debate here to strip ISIS terrorists of their citizenship if they were only french officially. No, the US makes you reject other citizenship except for a few countries. In most cases to become a US citizen you MUST revoke your other status This is not how it works. The US does not have formal dual citizenship status but very few places do have it. However the US, like most countries, offers informal dual citizenship. How that works is the US gov views you solely as a citizen of the US and the other country views you solely as their citizen. Neither recognizes the claim of the other. When I naturalize in a few weeks the US government will ask that I tell them that I have rejected British citizenship but the British government doesn't care what I tell the Americans. Which completely screws you on taxes as the US doesn't care in which country you get your salary :p Yes and no. The US gov does expect all people it believes are citizens to file taxes annually, even if you've never set foot in the US and have no idea that you're a US citizen. But the foreign income exclusion is substantial. You're unlikely to actually owe taxes. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/us-citizens-and-resident-aliens-abroadShow nested quote +Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside. In normal cases this might be fine, but for a lot of people with these citizenship issues, it is still a nightmare, as they don't even know that they should file, thus did not request these exemptions. I don't have an english link to provide, but here is one in French : https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/editos-analyses/le-cauchemar-fiscal-de-ces-francais-nes-aux-etats-unis-130421 . The reason for this is called FATCA, requiring banks to provide infos on current assets exceeding 50k held abroad, under threat of forbidding the banks to do business in the US, while not reciprocating. It lead to a lot of issues, as years of tax were suddenly requested to people. Furthermore, the tripled the price to relinquish your US nationality to more than 2000$... That's deviating a lot from Ilhan Omar, so I'll stop there (guess it's still somewhat US politics though...)
Don't quote the IRS at me buddy. My job is to explain the IRS to people like you.
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On June 24 2019 03:58 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 03:30 Mohdoo wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Hopefully true. She's a huge liability for the party and contributed nothing. The only congress member that Democrats need to get rid of faster than Omar is AOC.
Strong, opinionated, self sustaining and politicised women are pretty much the antithesis to the republican way of life you appear to endorse oftentimes.
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I liked how outspoken Omar was against Israel but don't know much about her other than that. It's rare for US politicians to have the backbone to criticize Israel.
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On June 24 2019 04:30 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2019 04:07 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 03:40 KwarK wrote:On June 24 2019 03:04 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 02:51 KwarK wrote:On June 24 2019 02:35 IyMoon wrote:On June 24 2019 02:06 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 01:58 Simberto wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448 Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? In any case proceedings would be so long that there is basically no chance she would be fired while in office (well, except if she is reelected) due to not being a citizen, which could probably be a first :D I doubt that a citizenship can be revoked, otherwise you might end up with people without any state they belong to, which is something that pretty much every law tries to avoid very hard, because it is pretty bad. On June 24 2019 01:57 farvacola wrote:On June 24 2019 01:54 Nouar wrote:
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Can a citizenship granted be rescinded if proven in court that it was obtained fraudulently ? Yep, that can and does happen. Really? And what does happen to those people? They probably had to reject their previous citizenship to gain US citizenship? What if the previous state doesn't want them back? Do they just end up having to live in international waters because no state allows them to enter? How does that work? She probably has another citizenship, like Somali. I don't think the US forces people to choose between theirs. On the contrary, it can sometimes be a big issue : children of foreign servicemen in NATO for example, or children born during a trip, sometimes end up with a US citizenship unknowingly, which means they are subjected to the IRS even on some revenues they earned as an adult dozens of years later. We often see requests for dozens of thousands of $ to people who were in the US a few days/weeks when they were born and were unaware. It's a pain to fix. Apatrids (if the word exists in english ?) is indeed a big issue, which is why there was a debate here to strip ISIS terrorists of their citizenship if they were only french officially. No, the US makes you reject other citizenship except for a few countries. In most cases to become a US citizen you MUST revoke your other status This is not how it works. The US does not have formal dual citizenship status but very few places do have it. However the US, like most countries, offers informal dual citizenship. How that works is the US gov views you solely as a citizen of the US and the other country views you solely as their citizen. Neither recognizes the claim of the other. When I naturalize in a few weeks the US government will ask that I tell them that I have rejected British citizenship but the British government doesn't care what I tell the Americans. Which completely screws you on taxes as the US doesn't care in which country you get your salary :p Yes and no. The US gov does expect all people it believes are citizens to file taxes annually, even if you've never set foot in the US and have no idea that you're a US citizen. But the foreign income exclusion is substantial. You're unlikely to actually owe taxes. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/us-citizens-and-resident-aliens-abroadYour worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside. In normal cases this might be fine, but for a lot of people with these citizenship issues, it is still a nightmare, as they don't even know that they should file, thus did not request these exemptions. I don't have an english link to provide, but here is one in French : https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/editos-analyses/le-cauchemar-fiscal-de-ces-francais-nes-aux-etats-unis-130421 . The reason for this is called FATCA, requiring banks to provide infos on current assets exceeding 50k held abroad, under threat of forbidding the banks to do business in the US, while not reciprocating. It lead to a lot of issues, as years of tax were suddenly requested to people. Furthermore, the tripled the price to relinquish your US nationality to more than 2000$... That's deviating a lot from Ilhan Omar, so I'll stop there (guess it's still somewhat US politics though...) Don't quote the IRS at me buddy. My job is to explain the IRS to people like you.
I'm not necessarily quoting it to you, there are others in the thread. That quote didn't counter anything you said.
I'll admit my knowledge is superficial (and that's rich). Then please enlighten me if those exclusions automatically apply or if someone who didn't file for years gets the full rate, like all these guys have ? In some cases the attorney fees are also a big issue (in the hundreds of thousands)
The us is one of the only countries (I believe there are two?) taxing foreign revenue...
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On June 24 2019 05:04 Starlightsun wrote:
I liked how outspoken Omar was against Israel but don't know much about her other than that. It's rare for US politicians to have the backbone to criticize Israel.
This is the main reason there's bipartisan support to undermine and remove her imo.
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If anyone actually read my post they would have read that my first sentence was that I wanted my girlfriend to be an independent woman but that she refused to do the basic things that an independent woman would, ie being independent from me. Europe wants to be an independent part of the relationship with the USA but refuses to do anything but mildly disagree with what the USA does while enjoying all the benefits of what the USA does.
If anything the EU supported the Iraq war, if not in word then in its actions or lack of actions.
On June 23 2019 20:53 farvacola wrote:
I know plenty of y’all already know this, but just so it’s clear, plenty of Americans do not share Sermo’s distorted views of Europe and international relations. Plenty do, of course, but those of us who don’t are doing our best to spread the word otherwise.
Christ farva if you disagree with me say you disagree with me but quit with this lukewarm politic indirect insult garbage.
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On June 24 2019 00:16 Doodsmack wrote:Some conservative journalists have uncovered what appears to be proof that ilhan Omar entered into a fraudulent marriage in order to obtain citizenship. She lied under oath about it and divorced him after the goal was accomplished. https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1142645481643880448
The story is even crazier than that. There were scattered questions beforehand, but nothing substantial regarding her marriage. The Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board started an investigation about using campaign funds to pay lawyers. That's when it was discovered that she used campaign funds for personal trips.
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) violated state campaign finance rules when she used funds from her congressional campaign for personal travel expenses, Minnesota campaign finance officials ruled Thursday.
The Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board decided Thursday that Omar’s use of campaign funds for personal out-of-state travel and to pay for her tax returns violated state campaign finance rules, according to The Associated Press.
The board ruled that Omar must reimburse her former campaign committee nearly $3,500 and pay the state a civil penalty of $500 for using campaign money to travel to Florida.
TheHill & AP
During that investigation, it was discovered that she was jointly filing taxes with Ahmed Hirsi while still married to Ahmed Nur Said Elmi. Star Tribune.
All that brought more light to her relationships with both men, and more questions about the first marriage. Documents show she was living with her current husband during a time she said she had separated with him to marry Elmi.
A paper trail of legal documents, however, undermines Omar’s claim that her marriage to Elmi, a British citizen, came during a split from Hirsi. All available evidence suggests that her legal marriage to Elmi notwithstanding, Omar has always been in marital relationship with Hirsi.
Public documents, for instance, place Hirsi and Omar living in a home together in the Cedar Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis in 2009, the year Elmi and Omar married, and two years before Omar claims she reconciled with Hirsi.
In legal documents, including 24 traffic violations and misdemeanor charges against Hirsi obtained by the Washington Examiner, Hirsi listed his address at a single Cedar Riverside address consistently in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011. Four minor cases against Omar show that in 2007, 2009, and 2012, she listed her address at the same Cedar Riverside address.
Specifically, local courts listed this address for both Omar and Hirsi in separate traffic violations in mid-2009, the year Omar and Elmi married.
Omar declined to answer the Examiner's questions on the matter, and her congressional office declined a request to speak.
Local media accounts also undermine the idea that Omar and Hirsi split. A 2013 article in the Twin Cities Daily Planet says Omar and Hirsi “moved to North Dakota so that Omar could finish her bachelor’s degree in political science.” Omar began at North Dakota State University in the autumn of 2009 and completed in 2011, the years during which she was allegedly married to Elmi, both legally and religiously.
A Cedar Riverside local who claims to have worked with Omar on Keith Ellison’s 2008 congressional campaign says that while he had seen Elmi around town, he had never known Omar and Elmi to be together.
Earlier this month, Minnesota campaign finance officials revealed that Omar and Hirsi jointly filed their taxes together in 2014 and 2015, many years before Omar and Elmi legally divorced. Both federal and Minnesota state law expressly forbid jointly filing taxes with someone who is not a legal spouse.
One confounding factor in understanding Omar’s, Hirsi’s, and Elmi’s marital history is a second address in official documents where all three have been listed as living.
In February 2009, Omar and Elmi both listed their address in their marriage application as a home in Columbia Heights, Minnesota, across the river from Omar’s other address. Hirsi, however, registered a business to the Minnesota secretary of state using that as his home address just three months after Omar’s legal marriage to Elmi.
Social media further complicates the picture.
Under penalty of perjury, Omar wrote during divorce proceedings that she had not contacted or known the whereabouts of Elmi since the summer of 2011. She also said that she had no means of contacting him, and the district court judge wrote in the divorce decree that Elmi “has not signed a declaration of non-paternity as [Omar] has had no contact with him since before the child was conceived.” Thus the court granted her request to serve Elmi with divorce papers “by alternate means.” Once a week, for three weeks in a row during August and September of 2017, Omar published public summons to Elmi in a local newspaper, Finance and Commerce.
Washington Examiner
So it's not really dependent on an single journalist watching social media, but on quite a bit of other evidence. This includes listed addresses with the state and court filings.
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