US Politics Mega-thread - Page 110

On April 13 2018 04:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
I mean, it's almost like a multilateral trade agreement with most of East Asia was the best way to curb Chinese influence and support American interests instead of getting into a shitty trade war.

On April 13 2018 04:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
I mean, it's almost like a multilateral trade agreement with most of East Asia was the best way to curb Chinese influence and support American interests instead of getting into a shitty trade war.

The raid on Cohen “significantly complicated” any negotiations for the president’s legal team, according to a person familiar with the discussions, who also cautioned that “you never say never” in terms of a possible interview. This person said the president’s legal team is still in frequent contact with Mueller’s team on other issues related to the investigation.

The president’s lawyers declined to comment for this report.

Three sources familiar with the investigation said the findings Mueller has collected on Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice include: His intent for firing former FBI Director James Comey; his role in the crafting of a misleading public statement on the nature of a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son and Russians; Trump’s dangling of pardons before grand jury witnesses who might testify against him; and pressuring Attorney General Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself from the Russia investigation

On April 13 2018 04:54 Simberto wrote:


Yes, but it was not Trumps idea, but that of the bad black man who made fun of him. Thus it is a bad idea. Trump has the best brain, and thus he also has the bestest ideas.

This is the big problem you have when you think you are way smarter than anyone else, and also form your opinions within seconds of hearing about a topic. Usually this problem is associated with teenagers, but apparently if you are born into enough money, you can sustain that attitude until you should be retired.

If a teenage bully never meets someone that they can't bully, they will grow up to believe that bullying is the way to get shit done everywhere, and the only people who don't realize that are weak nerds. And thus you get a president who is completely overwhelmed by the fact that suddenly bullying doesn't work anymore, and who doesn't have a fallback plan.

Maybe don't elect a person that talks like a highschool bully next time. That greatly reduces the chance of your president acting like one.

On April 13 2018 06:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
edit: leporello already posted it

the dangling pardons thing seems... bad.

On April 13 2018 05:55 Leporello wrote:
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/984524797769125889



For all the crying and hand-wringing about the DoJ, they haven't actually done anything thus far except indict a few close to Trump. But that seems to be about to change. If the DoJ has any serious objections or accusations against the Trump campaign or Presidency, it's hopefully about to be laid out.

Trump will not agree to a proper interview on the matter. He will have to be made to. But before that happens, I think the OSC and DoJ are going to lay out what their general beliefs and findings are, to compel Trump to testify. Or, if there is already strong evidence of wrongdoing (how unlikely is that?), it may seek to compel Congress to impeach.

People scoff at this GOP Congress impeaching, but as I said, the DoJ has actually been very reserved and silent. An outright condemnation, with evidence of wrongdoing, this close to elections, will put the screws in whatever is left of this dumpster-fire of a political-party. If the case is strong, they might just not have a choice. Or the elections will be around the corner, and it won't matter.

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell's era of hyper-hypocrisy and hyper-partisanship can die a fiery death. They'll act like victims on the way out, having thoroughly ransacked and denigrated the country while enabling a treasonous, flagrantly-racist President. The absolute two-faced shamelessness those two have brought into our culture ought to be treason in itself.

McConnell has repeatedly lied about his part in all this Trump shit. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/denis-mcdonough-mcconnell-watered-down-russia-warning-2016-n853016 All these fuckers ever cared about was their own bullshit. Nothing is sacred or ever mattered to them, except "beating the libs". Fucking cultists.

Partisan-cooperation can exist when you remove the fucking snakes from your party. And that's pretty much the whole GOP, so I'm done caring about it.

On April 13 2018 06:38 plasmidghost wrote:
Are there any good ways of knowing when Mueller's investigation will be closed? That article said it could be wrapped up quickly (at least the obstruction part, which I assume means the investigations into Russian meddling and the Stormy Daniels hush money could continue)

On April 13 2018 06:41 bo1b wrote:
As an outsider looking in, is there a reason investigations like these aren't done for pretty much every president? Outside of cost?

On April 13 2018 06:41 bo1b wrote:
As an outsider looking in, is there a reason investigations like these aren't done for pretty much every president? Outside of cost?

On April 13 2018 06:48 Mohdoo wrote:


I have asked this same question, and if I am remembering the responses correctly, there was once a time where "investigations" were used as a partisan tool to generally throw a wrench in the opposition's governing.

I'm still not entirely satisfied by that answer. I still believe it should be possible to establish some sort of non-partisan office that has all the same teeth Mueller's investigation has, but is an ongoing, constantly researching branch. Instead of being told "go look into ____", they would be in a constant state of investigating all the major branches of government.

On April 13 2018 06:54 Plansix wrote:

You have it, it is call the White House/Congressional ethics office. Both branches have one. But if congress doesn't care about people breaking the rules, there isn't a lot that is going to change.

On April 13 2018 06:33 bo1b wrote:

This probably isn't the right location, but I find smug, self righteous post's like these entirely pointless, and more to the point, divisive.

Probably how a German would feel if a genius from The Donald made an appearance to give his thoughts on Angela Merkel.

More to the point, there were legitimate grievances with the TPP past populism, particularly in the international community.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/u-s-has-blood-samples-show-nerve-agent-syria-gas-n865431

In other news, just read that a blood sample confirms a nerve agent was used in Syria, with evidence though not "100% sure". What I don't understand is why the Syrian government would do this, at that stage, given what looks like a decisive victory in front of them?

On April 13 2018 06:54 Plansix wrote:

You have it, it is call the White House/Congressional ethics office. Both branches have one. But if congress doesn't care about people breaking the rules, there isn't a lot that is going to change.