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On January 25 2019 03:06 Plansix wrote:The lay offs at Buzz Feed are a bit of a bummer. We are better off with these news organizations than without them. There is a bunch of discussion about how Facebook and Google have such a strangle hold on online ad revenue that they can skim right off the top of any news organization until it is a shallow husk. And because both companies are so far off the government's radar, they have been able to buy up almost all the competition. That combined with the change in regulations over who can own local news papers and local news networks, it is a buying season for a small number of wealthy people snatch up all the ways we receive news. The only cool part of this dystopican hellscape is that independent book stores are killing it. Because the one thing Amazon cannot do is make browsing books on that website enjoyable. http://www.phillytrib.com/news/business/independent-bookstores-are-coming-back-in-philly-across-the-u/article_700a8d7e-7ab1-50d9-be1a-276129f39d38.htmlEdit: Wilbur Ross is worth $700 million and just told people to take out loans to make up for the lack of a pay check. He might be the single greatest boon to the push for the 70% tax rate for the super wealthy.
Not getting paid? Go into debt! It's that simple!
(Granted some banks are offering 0% interest loans, but still, dick thing to say)
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On January 25 2019 02:58 JimmiC wrote:I was pretty excited to read this Article today. For those that want to be part of the solution it is very exciting that business is actually moving towards the EPR (enhanced producer responsibility) Model on their own and doing it because consumers are demanding it. I really hope this works but even if it doesn't there will be so much learning that happens. If you live somewhere when you can use this please do! https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/01/business/loop-reusable-packaging-mission-ahead/index.html
This is a really cool idea, I do hope it takes off, but I don't think it will.
People are going to feel weird about recycling tampons and the like.
And if a story comes out about how they are not cleaning the product clean enough near the start it will die a quick death
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Vote on Wall funding bill being voted down. It is 10-35 on votes to end debate. Soon as 6 more no votes happen its over
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On January 24 2019 21:36 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +QI had an episode on this a while ago. The banana regulation is a myth created by UK to scare people into voting to leave the EU. There's simply no such rule.
No, that's incorrect. The EU does indeed regulate how bent a banana can be to classify for certain categories. The Euromyth touted by Boris Johnson etc were about a ban on bananas that aren't perfectly bent. Which, btw, was an actual proposal to the EU commission. The same goes for cucumbers. They are regulated. The lie is that the Sun etc claimed that fruits/veggies not fitting "A-Class" were banned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromythedit: that being said, i could've made that more clear, fair point.
Which are all related to having the items fit snugly into a box to facilitate their trade and transport, by the by
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Manchin voted for trumps proposal haha
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Quite an historic shutdown this is
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On January 25 2019 05:39 CorsairHero wrote:
Manchin voted for trumps proposal haha
I saw that. I don't know why people get bent out of shape about it when they know that the vote will fail not matter how Manchin votes.
Edit: And with both failing, we are back to square one. Trump should push to end the filibuster again. That would amuse me.
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On January 25 2019 02:36 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 02:13 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 25 2019 01:06 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
According to that link, the only countries in the EU with less "burdensome is it for companies to comply with public administration’s requirements" than USA would be Finland and Germany, so to say that "many EU countries have less regulatory burdens than the US" would be completely false based on that metric. I’m pretty sure german or finnish environmental regulations would be seen as literally Hitler by almost everyone in the GOP. But Wegandi continues his bad faith crusade. What prompts accusations of socialism by conservatives is mainly social programs, universal healthcare, free education, workers rights and so on. It’s from there they jump on the oh so dumb Venezuela attack, and then refocus on corporate taxes when people answer « yes but I’m rather talking about Denmark? » The thing that always confuses me is when people make wild claims about the EU and its laws/regulations when they full blown know that people from the EU use this site.
Yup. I have lived in Norway for five years and hearing a Trump supporter say it’s more capitalist than the US to protect his shitty argument that « socialist » policies à la Sanders = Venezuela = eating rats is absolutely hillarious.
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On January 25 2019 05:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 05:39 CorsairHero wrote:
Manchin voted for trumps proposal haha I saw that. I don't know why people get bent out of shape about it when they know that the vote will fail not matter how Manchin votes. Edit: And with both failing, we are back to square one. Trump should push to end the filibuster again. That would amuse me.
Six reps voting for the Democrat package is a good way to start... 7 more needed though...
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The Democrat’s proposal got more votes too, so the wall plan should be dead. It has been proven it won’t pass either chamber. It just a question of if Trump caves or more Republicans jump ship.
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The whole debate is so stupid. It's not even really about a wall. We already have lots of walls and fences and barriers along the border, and those were supported by bipartisan federal legislation in the past.
It's instead just about the symbolic significance. If Trump manages to get funding, its a huge political victory. On the other hand, if he can't get funding, it's a huge political blow. Same for Democrats but vice versa.
Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of federal employees suffer between this pointless feud. If it was me, I would just make a compromise where Democrats put in extra funding for border security (without a wall). More border agents for instance.
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Guys, the senate was lit today. Ted Cruz made the senator for Colorado very grumpy. Like super grumpy.
On January 25 2019 07:10 Pandain wrote:
The whole debate is so stupid. It's not even really about a wall. We already have lots of walls and fences and barriers along the border, and those were supported by bipartisan federal legislation in the past.
It's instead just about the symbolic significance. If Trump manages to get funding, its a huge political victory. On the other hand, if he can't get funding, it's a huge political blow. Same for Democrats but vice versa.
Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of federal employees suffer between this pointless feud. If it was me, I would just make a compromise where Democrats put in extra funding for border security (without a wall). More border agents for instance.
This has been offered repeatedly and been refused. You can thank Mark Meadows and the conservatives for that. The only way he signs the bill is if the Democrats give him everything he wants.
Also, polling across the nation and in the states where the wall would be built shows that the country does not want the wall.
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I like the little dig at Cory Gardner.
Also, did Cruz forget that he shutdown the government or something?
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Cruz is a lying snake that thinks everyone forgets how much of an asshole he is. He is a useless grifter who has made a political career by attacking civil servants and people trying to make this country better.
Edit: That entire thing was so good. We need more angry senators to undercut the decorum and Mitch McConnnel's bullshit. Bring me the House of Commons. Someone steal the Mace of the United States House of Representatives(the House totally has a mace, because our founding fathers couldn't let some shit go).
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This guy... he is really bad at public speaking. I like his message but someone else needs to say it for him
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They are not prepared remarks and he has to obey the rules of decorum.
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On January 24 2019 18:05 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2019 17:26 Biff The Understudy wrote:On January 24 2019 14:32 Wegandi wrote:On January 24 2019 07:28 JimmiC wrote:
It is good for socialism that Maduro is out, because he was not a socialist, he was a self serving dictator using socialism as a shield to distract his people from his theft. Him being out doesn't let people say "socialism" doesn't work look at Venezuela. It is much harder to say it doesn't work look at Norway. You realize Norway is one of the more capitalistic countries on the planet, right? https://www.heritage.org/index/country/norwayCompare to Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, Brazil, etc. It also must be an odd quirk that socialism pretty regularly leads to authoritarian autocrats. I don't seem to remember a poor socialist leader with a country low on the corruption scale. Well so we agree that very high, very orogressive taxation, universal healthcare, extremely high unemployment benefits and so on are not socialism and have nothing to do with Venezuela. That’s good. You just described the US. The people who say "I want Denmark or Norway, etc." are clueless. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/05/americas-taxes-are-the-most-progressive-in-the-world-its-government-is-among-the-least/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.170715bce56chttps://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/11/23/american-taxes-are-unusually-progressive-government-spending-is-notThe US has some of the most progressive taxes in the world, high unemployment benefits, a large welfare state, a large regulatory state, etc. Sure, the US does not have universal healthcare, but programs like Medicare/Medicaid/SCHIP are not far off and cost ridiculous amounts of money. So, please, spare me the B.S. So, sure, let's be like Norway and lower our Corporate tax rates to their level - 25% (it's 35% in the US). I'm sure, you're for that, right? Or how about we de-regulate a lot of our industries (many EU countries have less regulatory burdens than the US). So who is really being disingenuous here?
You up for nationalizing oil/natural resources? That's a very significant part of Norway's success. (Another is investing these funds wisely rather than spending them and overheating economy.)
Also, while I can get behind that the US has more progressive taxation than Norway (at least in theory, not sure how it works out with loopholes, although Norway does have loopholes too), Norway has extremely strong labor unions that over the past several decades have ensured very 'progressive' wage-levels. (the US has a higher average salary than Norway, by like 10% (source,) yet a lower median income. A 20 year old working in mcdonalds makes $18/hour at entry level and this is one of the lowest paying jobs we have here also).
Claims that Norway is 'socialist' is wrong. We're a mixed economy for sure. But there are elements of socialism present in our country which is not present in the US, and some of these elements are pretty instrumental in explaining why it's such a good country to live in. And if you were to juxtapose the Norway and the US in a 'which country is more socialist or capitalist than the other' then there's no question the US looks more capitalist overall..
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On January 25 2019 03:06 Plansix wrote:
Edit: Wilbur Ross is worth $700 million and just told people to take out loans to make up for the lack of a pay check. He might be the single greatest boon to the push for the 70% tax rate for the super wealthy.
That guy is really something else. I will always remember him saying he loved the vibe in saudi arabia because there was not a protester in sight.
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On January 25 2019 07:10 Pandain wrote:
The whole debate is so stupid. It's not even really about a wall. We already have lots of walls and fences and barriers along the border, and those were supported by bipartisan federal legislation in the past.
It's instead just about the symbolic significance. If Trump manages to get funding, its a huge political victory. On the other hand, if he can't get funding, it's a huge political blow. Same for Democrats but vice versa.
Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of federal employees suffer between this pointless feud. If it was me, I would just make a compromise where Democrats put in extra funding for border security (without a wall). More border agents for instance.
They're already working on that. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/top-house-dem-says-new-offer-will-focus-funding-smart-n961746
Although if I remember correctly they tried to do this already back in December and Trump said no.
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