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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 12:47:51
January 25 2019 12:47 GMT
#21221
Stone is a big piece because he, combined with that other conspiracy dude, is the link between the campaign and insider knowledge of the hack. He's an important piece of the conspiracy.

Also, I love how they raided his house before the sun was even up. Someone even filmed it. Dude has been scum for decades so hopefully he ends up behind bars where he belongs.

SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 12:53:26
January 25 2019 12:52 GMT
#21222
On January 25 2019 21:47 On_Slaught wrote:
Stone is a big piece because he, combined with that other conspiracy dude, is the link between the campaign and insider knowledge of the hack. He's an important piece of the conspiracy.

Also, I love how they raided his house before the sun was even up. Someone even filmed it. Dude has been scum for decades so hopefully he ends up behind bars where he belongs.

https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1088777038368989185

1) his charges relate to Assange and wikileaks, someone I still highly regard and an organisation that deserves far more credit (and used to when it was a darling of the left - but it honestly transcends sides)
2) CNN is somehow at his residency as he's getting arrested
3) fuck this shit it stinks to high heaven
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 13:16:50
January 25 2019 13:15 GMT
#21223
On January 25 2019 21:52 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 21:47 On_Slaught wrote:
Stone is a big piece because he, combined with that other conspiracy dude, is the link between the campaign and insider knowledge of the hack. He's an important piece of the conspiracy.

Also, I love how they raided his house before the sun was even up. Someone even filmed it. Dude has been scum for decades so hopefully he ends up behind bars where he belongs.

https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1088777038368989185

1) his charges relate to Assange and wikileaks, someone I still highly regard and an organisation that deserves far more credit (and used to when it was a darling of the left - but it honestly transcends sides)
2) CNN is somehow at his residency as he's getting arrested
3) fuck this shit it stinks to high heaven


If Wikileaks believed their own rhetoric they would come clean and expose the corruption in the Trump regime.

Principles about information being in the public domain are only worth something if they apply equally to everyone.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 13:31:08
January 25 2019 13:29 GMT
#21224
On January 25 2019 21:52 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 21:47 On_Slaught wrote:
Stone is a big piece because he, combined with that other conspiracy dude, is the link between the campaign and insider knowledge of the hack. He's an important piece of the conspiracy.

Also, I love how they raided his house before the sun was even up. Someone even filmed it. Dude has been scum for decades so hopefully he ends up behind bars where he belongs.

https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1088777038368989185

1) his charges relate to Assange and wikileaks, someone I still highly regard and an organisation that deserves far more credit (and used to when it was a darling of the left - but it honestly transcends sides)
2) CNN is somehow at his residency as he's getting arrested
3) fuck this shit it stinks to high heaven


CNN probably sent people to everyone relevant to the Russia investigation. Its not terribly hard to do for a network as large as CNN, the Grand Jury convened yesterday so they 100% knew something was about to happen.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 25 2019 13:29 GMT
#21225
Stone's indictment

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5694707-Stone-Indictment-012419.html

False testimony and witness tampering, looks like he's fucked
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22103 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 13:33:50
January 25 2019 13:32 GMT
#21226
On January 25 2019 21:52 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 21:47 On_Slaught wrote:
Stone is a big piece because he, combined with that other conspiracy dude, is the link between the campaign and insider knowledge of the hack. He's an important piece of the conspiracy.

Also, I love how they raided his house before the sun was even up. Someone even filmed it. Dude has been scum for decades so hopefully he ends up behind bars where he belongs.

https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1088777038368989185

1) his charges relate to Assange and wikileaks, someone I still highly regard and an organisation that deserves far more credit (and used to when it was a darling of the left - but it honestly transcends sides)
2) CNN is somehow at his residency as he's getting arrested
3) fuck this shit it stinks to high heaven
Once Wikileaks might have been, but any noble cause they had has long since been subverted.

On January 25 2019 22:29 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stone's indictment

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5694707-Stone-Indictment-012419.html

False testimony and witness tampering, looks like he's fucked
As so often, the cover-up is going to get you harder then the actual crime (If Stone himself even engaged in any).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 25 2019 13:35 GMT
#21227
Also, Stone apparently thought WhatsApp was a 100% secure method of communication.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8233 Posts
January 25 2019 13:37 GMT
#21228
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 13:58:04
January 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#21229
On January 25 2019 22:37 Excludos wrote:
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information


let's get back to 1969 and start a witch hunt over again? :D MAGA ROFL

P.S. today many people are - If they are not with us, they are against us => russians!
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18854 Posts
January 25 2019 13:49 GMT
#21230
Uhh what?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 13:53:51
January 25 2019 13:51 GMT
#21231
Also, CNN having a camera crew(if it was CNN, they could have bought it from a local network) at an arrest isn’t this sign of corruption. Reporters get tips about stuff like this all the time. It’s like their whole job and the most used scene in any movie/tv show about reporting. The rush out to the door due to a hot tip.

EDIT: 1969 witch hunt? What da fuk u talk’n bout?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
January 25 2019 13:52 GMT
#21232
On January 25 2019 22:46 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 22:37 Excludos wrote:
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information


let's get back to 1969 and start a witch hunt over again? :D MAGA ROFL

P.S. today many people are - If they are not with us, they are against with us => russians!


It's probably a bit more nuanced than Wikileaks being fully Russian controlled but they're definitely used by Russia to leak the information in a way that makes it slightly more credible than if released directly by the Kremlin.
Wikileaks just might not give so much of a shit about the source of the information in the political sense.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 14:01:42
January 25 2019 14:00 GMT
#21233
Trusting Wikileaks is fine, so long as people accept they don't know who Wikileaks is, how they obtain their information, how they make money, who they work for and how much information they withhold and why they withhold it. If people are fine with all of that, great. But I don't think its fair to hold it against folks who are skeptical of Wikileaks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8233 Posts
January 25 2019 14:20 GMT
#21234
On January 25 2019 22:46 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 22:37 Excludos wrote:
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information


let's get back to 1969 and start a witch hunt over again? :D MAGA ROFL

P.S. today many people are - If they are not with us, they are against us => russians!


I don't understand what any of the words you just wrote actually means when combined in the order that you just did..
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43603 Posts
January 25 2019 14:30 GMT
#21235
On January 25 2019 22:46 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 22:37 Excludos wrote:
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information


let's get back to 1969 and start a witch hunt over again? :D MAGA ROFL

P.S. today many people are - If they are not with us, they are against us => russians!

There is evidence against these conspirators.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22103 Posts
January 25 2019 14:32 GMT
#21236
On January 25 2019 23:20 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 22:46 BlueStar wrote:
On January 25 2019 22:37 Excludos wrote:
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information


let's get back to 1969 and start a witch hunt over again? :D MAGA ROFL

P.S. today many people are - If they are not with us, they are against us => russians!


I don't understand what any of the words you just wrote actually means when combined in the order that you just did..
He is accusing us of McCarthyism I assume. Making up Russian accusations to discredit our enemy's.
But as Kwark said, that accusation ignores the laundry list of evidence of these things being real.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 14:37:46
January 25 2019 14:35 GMT
#21237
One of my favorite parts of Mueller Fridays are the way Trump supporters try and twist everything as either irrelevant or actually good news. Twitter is already in full swing and we're seeing it here. As if the Presidents confidants ever getting arrested is good...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 25 2019 14:45 GMT
#21238
On January 25 2019 23:32 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 23:20 Excludos wrote:
On January 25 2019 22:46 BlueStar wrote:
On January 25 2019 22:37 Excludos wrote:
If you still hold Wikileaks to high regards you have not been paying attention. They've been outed as a Russian controlled faction several times. They don't care about open and public information as much as they care about hurting Russia's enemies by leaking their secret information


let's get back to 1969 and start a witch hunt over again? :D MAGA ROFL

P.S. today many people are - If they are not with us, they are against us => russians!


I don't understand what any of the words you just wrote actually means when combined in the order that you just did..
He is accusing us of McCarthyism I assume. Making up Russian accusations to discredit our enemy's.
But as Kwark said, that accusation ignores the laundry list of evidence of these things being real.

McCarthy and this bullshit was during the 1950s, so he missed by over a decade if that is his complaint.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 25 2019 14:58 GMT
#21239
--- Nuked ---
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 25 2019 15:04 GMT
#21240
We have arrived. The rot is taking hold and the system is going into shock. They are grounding flights because people will die of they don’t.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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