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JimmiC
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On January 26 2019 00:05 JimmiC wrote: It is taking a nasty turn in Venezuela as the military is staying loyal to Maduro. This is very bad news for the poor people of Venezuela who have protested against the government as a)they are being shot, killed and beaten by the military and b) Maduro has a long standing policy of not giving the CLAP(food baskets to the poor) to anyone who protests against him. https://nypost.com/2019/01/24/death-toll-mounts-in-venezuela-amid-anti-government-unrest/ So far the list of countries supporting Maduro are, China, Russia, Cuba, Syria, Turkey and Iran. Edit: at least 20 dead and 350 arrested at this point. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-un-calls-for-investigation-into-protest-deaths-in-venezuela/ It is too bad I was hoping some could return home assuming the new guy wasn't just the other side of the coin and was actually going to restore the courts, constitution and hold free elections. "“What we have seen is that population movements so far have remained constant since last year, and that is some 5,000 Venezuelans leaving their country every day on average.” Many transit Colombia on their way to Peru or Ecuador, she said, adding: “We have seen a significant number in dire need of international refugee protection and humanitarian assistance.”" For those that are under the false impression that Maduro is some freely elected leader and this is a evil US rightwing conspiracy please read this. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2018/01/08/why-venezuelas-opposition-has-been-unable-to-effectively-challenge-maduro/ It can get confusing with the US actually backing a military coup in Venezuela when Chavez was the leader. But this isn't that. That article is interesting, but it feels so hard to get a good picture of Venezuela. Like there's some obvious biases there (at one point mentioning Maduro supporters briefly, but overall not really trying to represent who these supporters are or why they are supporters. Or doing the thing that is done in most Venezuela articles I've seen where they mention someone by name, like Julio Borges and Leopoldo López, but not mention their role in the 2002 coup which seems pretty relevant for appropriate context. Then conversely the articles written in contrast to these ones tend to have an obviously pro-Marudo slant to them. It becomes real hard to take a lot of the off handed quick descriptions of events that these articles put out and trust that they're being accurately portrayed. This is probably common in a 'both sides are terrible' situation, but it's quite frustrating. | ||
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On January 26 2019 01:16 PhoenixVoid wrote: Even if Mueller and the SCO never nails Trump down, I'm satisfied if it gets the people in his orbit if they are proven for their shady crap. Well then all the reduced sentencing would be for nothing so that would not be satisfying | ||
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On January 26 2019 01:20 Sent. wrote: I don't understand what the US and its allies can gain from recognizing Guaido as Venezuela's president when Maduro is still in control of the state apparatus. It doesn't change the situation in Venezuela and will make everything awkward in case Maduro stays in power. From my understanding, ever outside observer of the election that Maduro won reported that it was rigged. And he just was sworn in for another 6 year terms, which is what set off the protests. The Guaido is claiming to be the property president because he is next person in line per their constitution. And he claims to only want to hold power until new elections can be held. And it isn’t just the US. All the surrounding nations also expressed support for Guaido. The problems in Venezuela have impacted the surrounding countries for a long time now and it is pretty clear that Maduro has zero interest or ability to fix it. At some point, the neighboring nations are going to back anyone who will address the problems, rather than letting the problem fester for a couple decades. | ||
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On January 26 2019 01:21 JimmiC wrote: Long prison sentences make us feel good but don't really accomplish much for society. There is nothing as satisfying as seeing justice in action. It was clear to any neutral observer who educated themselves on the situation that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. Watching the dominoes fall is just the best feeling. Making people feel good is far worth more that you are giving credit for. | ||
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On January 26 2019 01:35 Mohdoo wrote: You would think that with his involvement with Nixon he would know better then to lie and cover for others, thereby committing a crime, when he could likely have walked away scot free.The_idiots has been so fun to read. They are all saying because he only got arrested for witness tampering and lying, and not "collusion", it means there was no collusion. Completely ignoring the fact....that's what he lied about lmao | ||
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On January 26 2019 02:04 JimmiC wrote: Yes, if invited they can observe elections. Something tells me Maduro won't be inviting them...There has to be some organization you can ask to come in and support it so both sides feel it is fair. I get they can't force there way in I'm suggesting that they are invited. | ||
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On January 26 2019 02:12 Gorsameth wrote: Yes, if invited they can observe elections. Something tells me Maduro won't be inviting them... I think they were invited in this case, I think historically they've always allowed international observers. | ||
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