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x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
February 13 2007 05:56 GMT
#1
let me tell you a little about myself, i am male 16 / Los Angeles/ Korean American / Artist.

right now my life is very mundane, i eat sleep go to school, come home, not study and play sc. my sense of clothing is very simple but i love fashion, not so much of abercrombieish fashion but more like pop culture fashion like bape. Im also really into shoes,graffiti art, and breakdancing. i love the "hip hop world", but no1 knows that because i dont look like anyone who would, just a korean starcraft playeer who wears white t shirts and khaki pants everyday. i also dont have a job, which sucks. im trying to look for one.

basically i want my life to go from

unfashionable person/no job / plays starcraft all day/ -->

----> dresses nice,especially nice shoes, / have a good job to buy clothes that i cant afford/ know how to do graffiti art/ immerse myself into the community which i would love to be in which are the bboys the sneakerheads, clothe designers.


i think its too much to want for myself being an 11th grader,but i dont care much about studies, i just want to live life.

thing is: how / where do i start? i dont know anyone that i can get acquainted with and get started. most of the people i know are just like me. they go to school and stay home to study with not much outside life.

i see potential in myself for being able to do grafitti art well but i cant think of any way to find someon who goes graffiti art who can help get me started.

i know theres a lotta things to do in l.a, cuz there are many shows and meets and the pop culture world is especially big here but i cant find any oppurtunities to be a part of it.

i really dont knwo what to do. i feel like im stuck in my home wishing for a lotta things.

do you think i am thinking and wanting a little too much for someone so young? or do you cheer me on?
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
February 13 2007 05:57 GMT
#2
Probably not going to be a good idea to pretend to be what you're not.
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 13 2007 05:58 GMT
#3
On February 13 2007 14:57 Never Post wrote:
Probably not going to be a good idea to pretend to be what you're not.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 06:03:23
February 13 2007 05:59 GMT
#4
ggangpae
do well in school and hope to pull off a decent school
colleges look at 8~12, and if you save yourself the last 2 grades and do well, they might accept you
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
February 13 2007 05:59 GMT
#5
On February 13 2007 14:57 Never Post wrote:
Probably not going to be a good idea to pretend to be what you're not.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
February 13 2007 05:59 GMT
#6
What you are doing is called "Posing" and it's must used among emos, retards and gays who try to be what they in fact, are not.

;p?
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
February 13 2007 06:00 GMT
#7
Why are you saying he would be pretending...? They are just goals.
wtf was that signature
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 13 2007 06:01 GMT
#8
don't be a lazy sob. study, find a good job, and help out your family. I'm older than you, past my school days, and I can tell you one thing for sure that had I studied and made the grade I would have a lot more opportunities.

don't take the easy way out, don't be lazy. focus and study. if you have problems in school, consider that you might have a learning disability. a lot of people don't realize they have a learning disability, and think that they are just lazy or procrastinate, until it is too late. you might have any number of things like adhd, dyslexia, etc.

just study is all i'm saying.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
February 13 2007 06:02 GMT
#9
I think you could accomplish your goal for sure, IMO you should be setting a higher goal/redo your priorities in life. Unless you really like the idea and don't mind being stuck with it later without other options.
wtf was that signature
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
February 13 2007 06:06 GMT
#10
I'm not exactly sure why you would want accomplish goals such as wearing nice clothes? Are you looking for a girl or something? At this point in your life as well as mine I would assume studies would be more important than anything. And besides... It is a bit too late to change all that just for the appearance and acceptance from other people. You have less and a year and half from high school, just continue what you are doing only change your hobby from so much starcraft to something a bit more productive.
aka: Yaj
sC.lover
Profile Joined February 2007
Korea (South)105 Posts
February 13 2007 06:14 GMT
#11
ya exactly what qbert said, or maybe start with a part time job somewhere, sooner or later you'll find out playing alot of games is useless, progamers only play because its pretty much they're jobs (i think)
spoofed the name limyh and played nada with it, was TvT lolol
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
February 13 2007 06:15 GMT
#12
Change who you are inside if you want meaningful relationships and good opportunities. Change who you are outside if you want one night stands and fake, superficial friends.
x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 06:19:43
February 13 2007 06:18 GMT
#13
its not pretending.. this is really what im really interested in and love
its just my life right now doesnt let me be who i am

i just love fashoin, but dont have the money right now

its not for a girl.. its for me
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
February 13 2007 06:25 GMT
#14
Lets blame someone not doing well in school on a learning disability. Everyone has them nowadays.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
February 13 2007 06:36 GMT
#15
way to ignore the entire point of the post and basically tell him to be like you/how you would have wanted to be at his age and "straighten up and fly right"

"hey guys i'm really unhappy right now, how do i start doing something i actually like?"
"FUCK YOU GO STUDY"
Entusman #12
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
February 13 2007 06:40 GMT
#16
getting a job at pizza hut, mcdonalds, KFC etc... are simple if you can speak english easily. I walked in and said if I can get a job, they asked me if I am fluent in english and they handed me a contract. easy as 1 2 3
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
February 13 2007 06:47 GMT
#17
On February 13 2007 15:18 x_woof_x wrote:
its not pretending.. this is really what im really interested in and love
its just my life right now doesnt let me be who i am

i just love fashoin, but dont have the money right now

its not for a girl.. its for me


theres this thing called a job. they arent hard to get. get off your ass and find one if you want to be a shallow poser gdi. 'wear clothes i cant afford...' super duper attitude there
Only communists disconnect.
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
February 13 2007 06:48 GMT
#18
On February 13 2007 15:36 littlechava wrote:
way to ignore the entire point of the post and basically tell him to be like you/how you would have wanted to be at his age and "straighten up and fly right"

"hey guys i'm really unhappy right now, how do i start doing something i actually like?"
"FUCK YOU GO STUDY"


Rofl..... I just believe that the point of this post is the absolute obviousness of his lack of true priorities right now and that this concern should be pointed out.
aka: Yaj
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
February 13 2007 06:55 GMT
#19
On February 13 2007 15:48 Q~Bert wrote:
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On February 13 2007 15:36 littlechava wrote:
way to ignore the entire point of the post and basically tell him to be like you/how you would have wanted to be at his age and "straighten up and fly right"

"hey guys i'm really unhappy right now, how do i start doing something i actually like?"
"FUCK YOU GO STUDY"


Rofl..... I just believe that the point of this post is the absolute obviousness of his lack of true priorities right now and that this concern should be pointed out.

you dont know what his true priorities are, not everyones "true" priorities are studying their asses off and pursuing higher education
i'm not saying he has everything figured out but you telling him to do something that makes him unhappy isn't really a good place to start
Entusman #12
dancefayedance!~
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
396 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 07:00:45
February 13 2007 06:58 GMT
#20
You all want him to study? These are true priorities to him? When do you all become arbitrators and dictate other peoples lives and priorities. It seems he already it the poser and he wants to be something he is. You all want to be successful and achieve something through your studies but is that really what you want? or are you scared away because it may be shallow or have no benefit or logical priority besides what you have to do? He wants to be himself and not impress other people. If that means spending absurd amounts of money on shoes and working at KFC all his life let him do it if that is what he truly enjoys. We all act out on things we truly enjoy. This is the samething except you are all too selfcentered to really understand the similarities. Let him do what he wants and quit calling him a poser. If a homosexual comes out of the closet and says he wants to live a new lifestyle one he finds he can be more of himself are we all going to tell him to go and study?
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
February 13 2007 07:01 GMT
#21
Here is my advice to you:

concentrate on your studies and be wise about how you use your time. It is ok to play some SC as long as you make sure you get your work done. Do well in school and then go to a good college. You will then have many more opportunities available to you.

you are only 16 and your interests, priorities and so much more will undoubtedly change. But if you do well in school, then you will put yourself in a good situation in whatever you want to do.
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
February 13 2007 07:01 GMT
#22
Actually my business professor had a pretty nice speech today about things you want in life. Basically, what he said was;
"The most valuable thing in life is time, since you cant get time back. You will always be able to get money/house/jobs/etc back. You will never get time back, so when you have something you want, you try and get it, otherwise you will regret one thing after the other... Remember to have fun bla bla..."

cant really quote it but its more or less the same-,-
sC.lover
Profile Joined February 2007
Korea (South)105 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 07:07:35
February 13 2007 07:07 GMT
#23
u wont always be able to get money/house/jobs back without time thats why you should make good use of it and make right decisions.
spoofed the name limyh and played nada with it, was TvT lolol
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
February 13 2007 07:34 GMT
#24
okey first.. unistall starcraft and give someone the cd and tell them to never give it back to you. Try to find other things to do while you are on the computer.. (like look for jobs)

Second.. get a job. Find out first what kind of job you want. Deliver out applications personally, and check in on them if you dont hear anything. Also do some resarch about the job your applying for, so you can look good at the interview =) Dress normal when your at an interview and try to be smiling\outgoing.

And dont give up! I looked a long time for a new job when the place i had been working at closed our division t.t But keep trying and you will get one.

3rd.. get more in touch with your friends and find other hobbies than starcraft. Start going out more. Try to be outgoing. Smiling. Also getting a girfriend is a good idea.. if you dont have one It sertanly is a starcraft killer ^^

If the only sport you do is braking.. maybe try to find other sports as well. Maybe a team sport so you can get more friends etc.. and a sport that has regular competitions and trainings, so that it will keep you bissy = also a starcraft killer =P

So: uninstall starcraft, get a job, see you friends more\gf, sports..
Dont just sit inside waiting for something to happen. In most cases it wont -_- You need to be out there taking part of stuff, try to be\think posetive. I know its all general stuff.. but if you really want to change you can. Just dont go half the way.. you need to commit

“Approved attributes and their relation to face make every man his own jailer; this is a fundamental social constraint even though each man may like his cell.” -Goffman
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
February 13 2007 07:38 GMT
#25
As for school, the most important thing is that your happy with what you are studying at it interest you. If what your studying is just "okey" you should switch. Either subject or school. If poosible. You will never be able to finish anything that dosent appeal to you. And just drifting sux..
Talking with subject advisers\others help too =P
“Approved attributes and their relation to face make every man his own jailer; this is a fundamental social constraint even though each man may like his cell.” -Goffman
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 13 2007 07:48 GMT
#26
On February 13 2007 15:01 gg_hertzz wrote:
don't be a lazy sob. study, find a good job, and help out your family. I'm older than you, past my school days, and I can tell you one thing for sure that had I studied and made the grade I would have a lot more opportunities.

don't take the easy way out, don't be lazy. focus and study. if you have problems in school, consider that you might have a learning disability. a lot of people don't realize they have a learning disability, and think that they are just lazy or procrastinate, until it is too late. you might have any number of things like adhd, dyslexia, etc.

just study is all i'm saying.


i pretty much agree completely
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
February 13 2007 08:10 GMT
#27
Seem like you the hip hop culture and want to be in it(clothings, career, etc)

However making a living as a grafitti artist (or clothes designer) is difficult, yet very few are successful.Yet you dont need to disband this goal or love for it.
Take steps by steps!

You want clothings. You got no money. Get a job. Most of the time there are decent jobs with decent wages. Go find a job at a fast-food restaurant, library, etc. You might have a chance to meet people with same intrest as you. Even though your job doesnt relate hip-hop anyway, just think about the money you going to get.. you can buy ur bape shoe/hoody with 2 week pay.
Oh and becareful someone might rob your bapes. (there are many bape alternatives)

Everyone say every kid should go to school. You dont have to go to school but I totally recommend you to continue school and give effort on it. Put a bit time of study there.
If you continue with school and finally to college... you have more alternative. Many colleges and univesities have breakdance/hiphop clubs(I'm in my uni's). You can join and learn more about it. That will be a dumb reason to join college right? you're wrong! It gives you many, many options for you to chooose in the future. Maybe you become a business manager and somehow manage a clothing biz like bape, stussy, etc.
Going to college or working hard in school doesn't mean you can't participate in the hip hop culture or becoming what you want( well, especially in this case ).
evolve or die
x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
February 13 2007 08:13 GMT
#28
On February 13 2007 15:58 dancefayedance!~ wrote:
You all want him to study? These are true priorities to him? When do you all become arbitrators and dictate other peoples lives and priorities. It seems he already it the poser and he wants to be something he is. You all want to be successful and achieve something through your studies but is that really what you want? or are you scared away because it may be shallow or have no benefit or logical priority besides what you have to do? He wants to be himself and not impress other people. If that means spending absurd amounts of money on shoes and working at KFC all his life let him do it if that is what he truly enjoys. We all act out on things we truly enjoy. This is the samething except you are all too selfcentered to really understand the similarities. Let him do what he wants and quit calling him a poser. If a homosexual comes out of the closet and says he wants to live a new lifestyle one he finds he can be more of himself are we all going to tell him to go and study?



god., thank you for understanding, but of course im not gona work at kfc all my life, im planing on a career in art.

all you guys are totaly not geting the point of this post, i was expecting advice concerning how to start off, not on your opinions how to live my life.

ive already decided i dont like wasting my life studying for a good school so i can get a good job like lawyer or doctor. ill hate that... if being rich / succesful with stuydies is the point of life... then whats the point of living?

i just wanna go to a decent art school and do something i love

and also im not trying to be a poser,. im actually posing to be something im not right now
what i change into will be something thats me
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
February 13 2007 08:15 GMT
#29
do you think i am thinking and wanting a little too much for someone so young? or do you cheer me on?

You may think and want to much, but who doesn't? The final result are only going to effect you and the people around you.

keep your dream big. but dont let the dream crush you.
step by step, you will reach closer. if fail, why not try again.
just dont jepeordize your future life.
evolve or die
x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
February 13 2007 08:19 GMT
#30
also to the people who are saying i ahve a learning disablity or saying omfg get a life find a job:::

im trying in school enough to get into a decent college

i have a 3.3 gpa right now so its not like im some failure dropout person who quit on school

i just hate school having to be the priority

ive already gone out everywhere geting job applications so im not that lazy and in my post it may seem like im some geeknerd and stay home all day everyday and rot in my computer chair.. thats not the case... and of course i play sports im very athletic.
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
February 13 2007 08:22 GMT
#31
x_woof_x, my advice would be to simply go to downtown LA and learn the city. Find all the artsy places, and meet people. Live in the city. You won't learn anything about art in the suburbs or with your parents.

Frequent clothing stores you find interesting and get to know the owners (maybe they'll hire you?). Don't buy Bape. Bape is over priced with terrible quality -- the only people who still buy it are ignorant rich white people from the suburbs. Supreme, Alife, Marihashi, and Nike are some good brands.

Immerse yourself in the online culture as well. Hypebeast.com is a pretty good website for clothing and shoes, and there are a host of others that are similar. Superfuture.com will teach you how to dress (pay attention to MilSpex when he posts, that mother fucker knows his shit) and which brands are good and which are shit.

And most importantly, if you really want some cred, you have to be good at what you do. If you want to be a good graffiti artist, just do it all the fucking time. In notebooks, on buildings -- whatever. Just do it. Look at what other people do, and take some tip from their work (remember, every artist steals a technique some time).

Lastly, obviously school can seem pointless, but don't give it up completely. You gotta at least scrape by with C's, or your opportunities really will shrink drastically. You can still get hip with the in crowd and have C's. It's not very difficult. Also, take art classes. They are incredibly useful, especially considering they are free. Since you're interested in graffiti, I would recommend drawing and printmaking.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 13 2007 08:24 GMT
#32
just look at school as a vehicle for you to attain what you want to in the long run. School itself may suck harcore for many people, but as posters have mentioned, it opens up a lot of opportunities that wouldnt be there otherwise, and really makes life that much easier for you
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 13 2007 08:24 GMT
#33
Look I'm not gonna read this, but you said some shit about hip-hop and fashion. I think that's your problem. Get some Megadeth and maybe you'll turn out ok.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
February 13 2007 08:29 GMT
#34
dont worry my grades are fine,
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17249 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 08:41:52
February 13 2007 08:39 GMT
#35

basically i want my life to go from

unfashionable person/no job / plays starcraft all day/ -->

----> dresses nice,especially nice shoes, / have a good job to buy clothes that i cant afford/ know how to do graffiti art/ immerse myself into the community which i would love to be in which are the bboys the sneakerheads, clothe designers.


First thing you should change in your life is this list...

"dresses nice,especially nice shoes" - and what really stops you from doing that now?

"have a good job to buy clothes that i cant afford" - wrong reason to get a job and there's shitload of clothes that are nice and stuff and don't cost a fortune.

"know how to do graffiti art" - geez, just check out the web for some graffitti, buy spraycans and start off with testing it on the walls in your own room, as simple as that (my friend learned this way, but he also learned tattooing on himself so I'm not sure if he was completely sane).

"immerse myself into the community which i would love to be in which are the bboys the sneakerheads, clothe designers." - bboys: breakdancing skills/knowledge required; sneakerheads: WTF?!?! It's similar to becoming goth/emo which is bad, very bad; clothe designers - for that you need either immense imagination combined with plastic skills and figuring the way to show yourself/your work and/or some really good school that teaches such stuff finished.

Your list should look more like:

unfashionable person/no job/plays starcraft all day/ -->
self confident person trying to learn some useful stuff and socialize some more with others instead of spending whole day in front of the computer.

Personally I like my life, I've had some ups and downs but it was all good experience. I didn't seriously think about even getting a job until this year (I'm 24 and still wouldn't think seriously about a job if not the fact that I'm happily engaged for 2 months now), I got myself a bunch (quite a bunch) of good friends so that I always have someone to hang up with, I like to socialize and I'll choose going out with friends over computer 90% of the time, I'm at home maybe 3 days/week etc. etc. etc. Enough of this boring facts, the point is:

ALL YOU REALLY NEED IS SOME SELF CONFIDENCE AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOURSELF AS YOU ARE AND BE HAPPY WITH IT.

Manit0u has spoken.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
February 13 2007 08:57 GMT
#36
Posing would be considered doing something you don't especially want to in order to fit in with a crowd. Since this is something you want to do and conformism doesn't seem to be an issue, this is just you having goals and wanting to legitimately change yourself. There's nothing wrong with it.

As far as what you need to do, the first thing is to end this bullshit about you not knowing what to do. You know better than anyone else what you need to do. I'm not saying this just because I don't know what you should do. The worlds of fashion, graffiti art, etc. are alien to me. You, however, at the very least have interest. And from experience, that is more than enough to know how to pursue something. At this point in life everything is confusing, but you have to come to terms first with the fact that you know full well what to do next, and the only thing that's stopping you from doing it is a lack of balls.

Balls are composed of courage, initiative and callousness. You most likely won't obtain them regardless of the fact that you know what they look like. This is the nature of lack of balls- a good understanding of what needs to be done, but an inability to complete the task. The majority of people in every-day society lack them.

Well that's basically my message to you. You know what needs to be done, there's no reason to ask anyone else.

That being said, you also need to realize (if you haven't already) that you are a high-schooler, and therefore a fool. Because you are automatically handicapped by stupidity, it would take some huge balls to give away the safety of options (the path on which you're currently trudging along). The balance of balls vs safety is something everyone will struggle with for the rest of their lives.
Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
February 13 2007 09:07 GMT
#37
Hey,

I also want to change my life. Right now, I am a university student in a program (Biochemistry) that I don't really like but I'm doing because I have no other passions in life. I plan on going into medicine because I really don't have a clue about what else I should do. I have nothing to complain about, I have a roof over my head (which is more than what some people have in this cruel world), good friends, and, basically, a good life.

Yet... I'm come to the conclusion that life is pointless, meaningless, and that I'm just a waste of carbon. Well, maybe not a complete waste, I am increasing the entropy of the universe thereby hastening the predicted heat death future (or something like that).

Tell me, how can I change from an emo philosopher who can't live without crying over nothing into a happy person who has found a calling in life?

NOTE: I've found that I can only remain happy around other people because they take up my thought process and prevent me from digging my own philosophical graves.

Cheers!
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 09:16:28
February 13 2007 09:13 GMT
#38
lol?

I didn't think everyone would go so harsh on the guy.

Anyway, here's what I have to say x_woof_x:

I'm 18 and Korean American like you. This is what I think of your situation:
Yes, you can do a lot of things RIGHT now to fix your problem with yourself being a boring person playing sc and not having a job and what not. All that is not too much of a problem so don't worry dude. As soon as I was 16 I was sent out to find a job and start paying for everything for myself. Car, insurance, gas, lunch, anything I wanted outside of necessities. It was a good experience, and I think you should go through the same. School is important no matter how much you think it's bs and shouldn't be the point of your life. Anyway, I'm following what most of the other posters said so I'll stop here.

As for the hip-hop thing. I don't think you understand hip-hop. In no way am I saying I am the hip-hop guru or whatever but here's what I'll tell you I know about the entire culture. The best way to define it comes from a quote from bboy Lilou from France.

" That's the beauty of this combining of all these different cultures and countries, because it shows the world what real hip-hop is. Because a lot of people think that real hip-hop is gangster music or black or white or arabic or religious. Nah, real hip-hop doesn't discriminate. Real hip-hop is all cultures put together in one. It's peace, unity, love, and having fun under the oneness of god, no matter what god you pray to. "

In our world there are four elements of hip hop. Breaking, Mixing, Graffitti, and the Mic. Hip-hop is not something you can just become whenever you'd like. It's something you live. There are plenty of people who have hip-hop as an integral part of their life, but they still go to school. They are not defined about what they wear or what they look like but hip-hop is a part of their lifestyle.

I think rather than you doing all that nonsense stuff it's better for you to pick up a hobby that will have people who have hip-hop personalities [ some of which are good role models ] and allow you to become a part of the culture as well. Don't try too hard.
itemlock
Profile Joined January 2007
United States256 Posts
February 13 2007 09:26 GMT
#39
Well, what I'd definitely say is don't try to be something your not in order to make life more interesting. You're going to come to a point where you realize that you're living a lie if you do that. If you want to make life more interesting, I'd say find something you love and pursue it. We all have things that we WANT to do or passions that we WANT to pursue, but don't for one reason or another. For the longest time, I wanted to really pursue music, but I always had this uneasiness about it. As a Korean, you know how Korean parents feel about their children for the most part. My parents wanted me to be a doctor or a lawyer. They had already freaked when I told them I wanted to be a teacher so I decided not to push it further than that, but there was always that longing. My life at the time was also not so much different from the way you seem to be describing yours. I won't say "study and get a good job" or "focus on your future", because that's not what life is about. Finding that one thing that satisfies you and pursuing that is all that you will ever need in life. Today, I am a majoring in music and sound engineering and even though it's a financial struggle for me, I honestly could not be happier.

I know at times, it may seem unrealistic or perhaps even childish in a world where it seems like you can only get by if you focus on getting a "good job", but the reality is really very different from the way most people think. If you feel you have potential in something, go after it and be the best that you can possibly be at it. You only get one chance at life so live it.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 13 2007 09:31 GMT
#40
first of all, sc is not a good way to spend ur time studying for tests/homework. find another hobby, even if its not the best for u. for me, i watch tv more often instead then going on myspace, teamliquid, etc for 2 hours. then i start my homework and i often take naps.

its good thinking of the future though, nobody wants to be a middle class citizen
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
February 13 2007 09:52 GMT
#41
You're literally my twin, except I'm just a year older then you
and yeah - that quote from lilou basically nails down what TRUE hiphop is
None of that crap bling bling, pwnt shoes and piece of crap rapping that you see on TV
Use it or lose it
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 10:15:30
February 13 2007 10:13 GMT
#42
I'll give you few advises as a senior, 1.5 generation Korean who went through the same stage as you couple of years ago.. I was into breakdancing, I used to be in an underground hiphop band and still into fashion. Even though I'm pursuing more realistic goals now, here is my 2 cents nevertheless.

First of all, you don't need a lot of money to dress nice. You don't have to be wearing Diesel jeans or Versace jacket to look 'fresh'. Even if you only shop at 'Industry' you can still look awesome with simple choice of color cordination and design. I personally prefer V-neck to round neck and strong colors, often contrasting. If you're into hiphop clothing, I suggest Omarion's style of clothing such as simple tight top and big belt buckle, strong colored semi-baggy jeans, big sneakers and long shiny, simple chain that comes down to your belly button.
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Second of all, I'd still attend college even if you pursued other paths. I would not rely on graffiti as my main source of income, Get any job and make enough money to buy DJing equipment. Befriend with someone who can DJs at your school or local DJs if you can. I would learn about DJing and work on weekends as DJ whilst attending college. From time to time, you could also work on your graffiti as well.

Lastly as all the hiphop related jobs are age sensitive and limited, as a long term goal, you could probably open up a hip hop store where you sell hiphop clothing, accessories, DJing equipment, graffiti sprays, CDs and all that jazz.

Whatever you do, if you give your best and try your best you'll reach somewhere.


1tym is one time for your mind
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 13 2007 10:13 GMT
#43
Make some cash and then all ur problems are solved.
Rillanon.au
x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 10:16:39
February 13 2007 10:14 GMT
#44
i know hip hop not about bling bling and all that
btw i love lilou.. hes freakin amazing.

its just
sorry i cant help it, i love shoes,
ive had interest in shoes since i was a kid. maybe you would still consider me a kid


btw i wanna thank you guys for your advice/ opinions
evne tho some were so flamy

i especially needed some advice from korean americans cuz i guess i could relate to them more
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 13 2007 10:15 GMT
#45
"Even if you only shop at 'Industry' you can still look awesome with simple choice of color cordination and design."

god damn u. if only i can shop at industry.
Rillanon.au
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
February 13 2007 10:19 GMT
#46
Is Industry expensive in Melbourne? I thought It was meant to be an economic brand. Try direct factory outlet.. They sell Industry cheap and the quality isn't too bad.
1tym is one time for your mind
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
February 13 2007 10:22 GMT
#47
You don't need any expensive clothing
Just pick out simple ones, combine them to your style/liking and wear em
No need to be a prep or worry about what other people think lol
Use it or lose it
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
February 13 2007 10:22 GMT
#48
Shoe-afile.... you're sick.
aka: Yaj
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 11:52:33
February 13 2007 11:49 GMT
#49
On February 13 2007 19:19 1tym wrote:
Is Industry expensive in Melbourne? I thought It was meant to be an economic brand. Try direct factory outlet.. They sell Industry cheap and the quality isn't too bad.


the flagship store sells tees for like 70 dollars and jackets and pants 200+. the cheapest thing in the store is 50 which is a scarf ~_~.

economical brand i think = kenji urban and such. do you know if there is a website or a phone number where i can call to order stuff direct from sydney?
Rillanon.au
gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
February 13 2007 12:13 GMT
#50
On February 13 2007 20:49 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2007 19:19 1tym wrote:
Is Industry expensive in Melbourne? I thought It was meant to be an economic brand. Try direct factory outlet.. They sell Industry cheap and the quality isn't too bad.


the flagship store sells tees for like 70 dollars and jackets and pants 200+. the cheapest thing in the store is 50 which is a scarf ~_~.

economical brand i think = kenji urban and such. do you know if there is a website or a phone number where i can call to order stuff direct from sydney?


check out wholesale american apparel if you want basic clothes for a good price ($10 a tee, $20 for a hoodie). a nice plus is that its all made sweatshop free in downtown LA
http://benisonline.com
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
February 13 2007 12:20 GMT
#51
get a job first.
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
February 13 2007 12:28 GMT
#52
Play more SC, get 3rd or maybe even 2nd place in WCG.

Be pro and go to korea to get own by koreans, somehow still getting paid.


Play poker? seems to be a trend.

I dont have a job either.....If only trolling the internet is a career.
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
February 13 2007 12:55 GMT
#53
ROFL heres some real advice:

DONT COME TO TL LOOKING FOR ADVICE & SUPPORT, BUNCH OF HATERS IS WHAT YOU'LL FIND.

And man I would tell you: get into the local hip hop scene if your really into it. There are probably loads of sick young emcees around your area that wouldn't mind another supporter. Keep your head up. Buy used clothes from yardsales and goodwill, if you put time into it you can find great looking 2ndary brands that look basically as sick as the name brands - you'll save thousands of dollars in the end, and won't get caught up in the consumer cycle of the rat race.

If high school is not your thing: consider dropping out and educating yourself and perhaps going straight to college. Highschool is for suckers anyway. I got friends who dropped out as sophmores and had college degrees before they were 20.

FOCUS ON WHO YOU WANT TO BE, DONT TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO YOU ARE.

good luck bro, peace
4 cheers for Ryan307
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
February 13 2007 13:04 GMT
#54
smoke pot
Follow me on twitter: CallMeTasteless
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
February 13 2007 13:05 GMT
#55
On February 13 2007 21:28 XCetron wrote:

Play poker
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
February 13 2007 13:31 GMT
#56
buy puma shoes and puma clothes.

then you can be awesome

AND be a KTF fan

AT THE SAME TIME. o_oi
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Phantom
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada2151 Posts
February 13 2007 13:44 GMT
#57
this looks like a job for the FAB 5!

...you know...queer eye for the straight guy?...am i the only one that watches that show?
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/members/Phantom
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
February 13 2007 13:46 GMT
#58
Follow your dreams and make it happen.

Good Luck to you sir.
We decide our own destiny
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 13 2007 14:23 GMT
#59
First of all Graffiti and pop culture are two totally different ends of the spectrum.

Although more and more graff writers are becoming famous due to internet etc.

My only advice to you is from 2 little girls I saw on the Montel Williams show earlier today.


" Don't try to copy what celebrities or hollywood does, be yourself and start your own trends. After all, the people setting the trends are the famous people. Paris Hilton didn't get that way from copying others. She started her own trends."
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
February 13 2007 16:59 GMT
#60
What you don't quite understand is you have to live a creative way to be like that.
And that means no constrains or restrictions, which goes a lot into not having a job(or only a crappy one) and not really spend quality time in school.
What you probably want is the feeling to be liberated. Just try to find any interesting creative hobby, something new with a trainer to teach you - it can be anything really(sport, art, music, dancing, whatever...)
Ask yourself a question : Do you see yourself through your eyes or other people's eyes?
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
February 13 2007 17:34 GMT
#61
I'm only an eighth korean, but here's my advice.

Step one: Forget about your past. Start over. As of today, you are a new person. Dress nice, wear nice shoes, be a nice person. Don't be a poser, be a genuinely nice guy who wants to learn from people. This gets you far in any circle worth being in, especially with heads. Get a job. Paint and style are expensive.
Step two: Try to find some writers in your area, and begin to take in your area's style. Learn good can control, study a bit of art, learn color theory/light theory, etc. http://www.12ozprophet.com/
Step three: DO NOT LET YOUR PARENTS FIND OUT YOU WRITE IF YOU BEGIN TO WRITE. Really, it's not good to let anyone at all know, except for people in the scene - and even then, only when they're dope and wanna write with you (or vice versa - but usually, when some random kid comes up to you and is like "man you're dope we should write", unless they have sick letters or are a known name, usually it's not that cool). Keeping what you write secret is good when you're starting out. After you get arrested a couple of times (it WILL happen), it's more acceptable to let your name out, but until then, keep it on the down-low.
Step four: Get a pair of dope shoes.
Step five: Practice. Find a crew. Get your name out there. Graffiti is a lifestyle, not a hobby. If you don't have the time and dedication, both you and graffiti will be better off without each other.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 19:24:06
February 13 2007 19:19 GMT
#62
On February 13 2007 17:13 x_woof_x wrote:

god., thank you for understanding, but of course im [strike]not[/strike] gona work at kfc all my life, im planing on a career in art.


Fixed.

You should plan on an acting career. At least then you'll make a little more money from tips.
sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
February 13 2007 19:55 GMT
#63
On February 14 2007 04:19 pr0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2007 17:13 x_woof_x wrote:

god., thank you for understanding, but of course im [strike]not[/strike] gona work at kfc all my life, im planing on a career in art.


Fixed.

You should plan on an acting career. At least then you'll make a little more money from tips.


do you even have an inkling as to how difficult it is to be in acting? there are so many different factors at play - you have to meet the right people, the right setting, the right environment, then after all the administrative business, then maybe you'll get a contract. acting is so much more difficult, than say, studies.

so many people want to go into acting without realizing the true reality of what it means to act.
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Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
February 13 2007 20:21 GMT
#64
Thats why he said it because making profit with art is just as difficult.
nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
February 13 2007 21:27 GMT
#65
Well, welcome to the sad fact of life for 99 percent of Americans: we aren't free, we don't actively decide how we live, we are all mostly the same, and to resist that is to go against the whole of society. In short, it is very difficult to change.

But I commend you for having an interest in trying... and trying to think outside the box.

On the other hand, and this is based around my personal views and tastes, it strikes me that you seem to care a lot about fashion and building an identity through symbols such as various kinds of fashion, and various cliques/subcultures. That is a disease that plagues the modern typical consumer robot.

Still, you are on the right track! If studying isn't getting it for you... don't do it! You don't need highschool and you certainly don't need college... not unless you are addicted to the idea of a consumer lifestyle that they try to force feed us through bullshit media and... well, everything else.

Drop out of school and get a GED. Search for interesting groups/people through the internet. Work if you like, but a valuable skill... if you don't want to play the game, is learning how to not buy anything that you do not need. Learn to give up attachments to objects, such as cars, "entertainment", and so forth.

Well, maybe that is a start. Probably I am building up my own way more than anything... but perhaps it is encouraging to hear that other people don't care to play the game either, and they stop trying. The lifestyle I advocate is particularly great for artists. Working 9 - 5 and doing 5 years of college... probably not so great. Here I am, about to finish my degree, and I honestly think that if I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have started.

Well, good luck.
Email (use instead of PM): InkMeister at aol dot com AIM: InkMeister
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8835 Posts
February 13 2007 21:30 GMT
#66
An introverted, self-described geek asking for advice on how to change his life on TL.net is like an alcoholic trying to figure out how to quit drinking by getting wasted.

=p
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
February 13 2007 21:32 GMT
#67
"I just want to live life."

Well, you are living life. Just not the one you want. Understandable.

As for specifying all this image stuff you are into... man, you can't buy satisfaction. You can't buy a meaningful existence. Not with money and not with symbols (such as x shoes and y pants and z car).

Again, kudos on the art, and kudos on wanting to do your own thing. Don't worry about getting there all at once. Just take the steps. You are only 16 (not being condescending here)... just actively take the baby steps to get where you need to be, and try not to feel like there is any huge rush.

Email (use instead of PM): InkMeister at aol dot com AIM: InkMeister
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
February 13 2007 21:51 GMT
#68
On February 13 2007 22:31 Last Romantic wrote:
buy puma shoes and puma clothes.

then you can be awesome

AND be a KTF fan

AT THE SAME TIME. o_oi


alrdy have those, except im not a KTF fan ^_^
x_woof_x
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States659 Posts
February 14 2007 12:47 GMT
#69
lol why do ppl think im a geek, do i describe myself that way? maaybe im too harsh in describing myself
STOP...... Manner time. 윤상현
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
February 14 2007 12:49 GMT
#70
Write songs and pick up instrument.
Happy songs.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
February 14 2007 13:01 GMT
#71
On February 14 2007 21:47 x_woof_x wrote:
lol why do ppl think im a geek, do i describe myself that way? maaybe im too harsh in describing myself

This sentence right here implies that you are none of the things in the latter category, and the first is like about as close to a geek alarm as you can get .

unfashionable person/no job / plays starcraft all day/ -->

----> dresses nice,especially nice shoes, / have a good job to buy clothes that i cant afford/ know how to do graffiti art/ immerse myself into the community which i would love to be in which are the bboys the sneakerheads, clothe designers.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
FearlessFlyingFrog
Profile Joined February 2007
89 Posts
February 14 2007 13:44 GMT
#72
Don't be so materialistic? Seems like your goals are to change your outward appearance to other people, but to not actually change anything on the inside.
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