High Thread - Page 719

On July 18 2012 06:24 beg wrote:
i smoked 1g everyday and had absolutely no withdrawal. cigarettes are 100 times worse.

i'm just reading up on this and it seems like ~30% of people get withdrawal. the majority has basically none. it's a german study. i would quote it otherwise. take my word for it!

On July 18 2012 06:02 Xiphos wrote:
a_flayer, yeah I'm about the same stats as you (thanks for the percentage by the way)

So, 145 lbs and 5'8 makes you about 15% of body fat.

Now it really depends on how many day you'll actually spent taking a t-break. The withdrawals is a delayed process.

On July 18 2012 06:27 Xiphos wrote:


Again:
Body fat %?
How long did you quit for?

On July 18 2012 08:39 N3rV[Green] wrote:
I seriously question people in this thread.

Weed has been smoked for over 5000 years by people, if it had "withdrawal" effects I think we would actually know about them by now.


Honestly all I can see is people realize all the little things weed covered up like a sore muscle, stomach problems, headaches, weed just makes them all go away and you don't even realize till you stop.


I mean really guys, quitting weed doesn't DO anything to you. Want withdrawal effects? Go get yourself a hangover. THAT is a withdrawal. Go smoke cancersticks for 5 years and quit cold turkey out of the blue, THATS withdrawal.

Here's the personal experience from me. 3 weeks ago I quit smoking cigarettes straight up, and at that same time the only person I could easily get bud from decided to up and leave town/not respond to any of my friends, so I haven't had a single hit of dat herb in about 2 and a half weeks.

I was a little edgy the first week, and that toned down pretty quickly, but that's 100% expected from the cigarettes. I haven't experienced a single thing about sleep changing, I remember dreams the same as when I was baked pretty much 24/7. I've experienced absolutely 0 withdrawal effects coming off of a 4-5 year smoking 7g every 3-5 days at the VERY least. I'm 6'1" and 135lbs on a good day.


Really guys, cut the "withdrawal" crap.

On July 18 2012 08:28 randommuch wrote:


Day 2. Nothing besides my orginal muscle spasms in my arm.
Tbh kind of seeing the t-break as pointless. Sort of want my arm to stop hurting
Still no other symptoms though.

On July 18 2012 08:42 beg wrote:

body fat.. uh.. i'm fat. i quit for 6 months now.

btw, i take back what i said about "30% people getting symptoms". i misread that line a bit. it was about how many people had stronger craving. no idea how many people are getting withdrawal symptoms.

On July 18 2012 08:39 N3rV[Green] wrote:
I seriously question people in this thread.

Weed has been smoked for over 5000 years by people, if it had "withdrawal" effects I think we would actually know about them by now.

On July 18 2012 09:41 FallDownMarigold wrote:


There actually is withdrawal. It's not nearly as problematic as nicotine withdrawal, but it does exist. I find this post sort of funny because you can read plenty of peer-reviewed literature on the matter. What do you mean by "I think we would actually know abut them by now"? We do know about them. It's an area of research.

This post is meant to be informative and corrective, not to be combative. No offense intended.

A few:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14560320
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11127420
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12439626
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16216154

Like I said, it's not a serious thing when compared with, say, nicotine/tobacco withdrawal, but it does exist. Maybe it doesn't for many, but you can't make a post like that baldly claiming it simply does not exist. Using anecdotal evidence to claim some widespread thing doesn't exist or exists, one way or another, is not very rigorous at all, and means absolutely nothing.

Edit - Here's one from last month that is especially interesting:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22153944

On July 18 2012 09:25 Xiphos wrote:


Well that's weird because the painkiller property of the herbs sticks with me for at least 3 days.
I would really love to see you getting through week 4 though.

On July 18 2012 10:13 randommuch wrote:


For me it's more of preventing the muscle spasms which are what hurt, not chronic pain. And no thanks lol, that sounds miserable.

On July 18 2012 10:14 Xiphos wrote:


do you really have to depend on it THAT much?

On July 18 2012 10:23 randommuch wrote:


My arm shakes like a motherfucker dood. I fell 15 feet and ruined the nerves around my shoulder.
So yeah, it helps. Well, i mean it's either mmj or some other painkiller/muscle relaxer that they'd give me and tbh I'm not to big of a fan of prescription drugs.

On July 18 2012 10:27 Xiphos wrote:


Ah I see

Well the way I see is that I work at 100% sober and 120% while high. The longer I stay away from it, the higher that percentage rises. So I don't try to smoke unless I absolutely do need to improve on my performance. I think doing it 'recreationaly' is too much of an 'abuse' for my taste because if I do it regularly (back when I would session 3 times a day), it would only merely increase the proficiency level by maybe 5% at the most.

On July 18 2012 09:05 Barrin wrote:
i have a few potatos to give away

On July 18 2012 10:23 randommuch wrote:


My arm shakes like a motherfucker dood. I fell 15 feet and ruined the nerves around my shoulder.
So yeah, it helps. Well, i mean it's either mmj or some other painkiller/muscle relaxer that they'd give me and tbh I'm not to big of a fan of prescription drugs.

On July 18 2012 10:34 ShiniSama wrote:



So you have nerve damage? about 3 years ago I fucked my brachial plexus up and couldn't move my entire left arm for about a year. Once it started to heal and the nerves started to come back it hurt like a mother fucker. Felt like my hand being dunked in a deep fryer. One of the worst pains I have ever felt in my life, and I have been through a lot if I do say so myself.

On July 18 2012 09:41 FallDownMarigold wrote:


There actually is withdrawal. It's not nearly as problematic as nicotine withdrawal, but it does exist. I find this post sort of funny because you can read plenty of peer-reviewed literature on the matter. What do you mean by "I think we would actually know abut them by now"? We do know about them. It's an area of research.

This post is meant to be informative and corrective, not to be combative. No offense intended.

A few:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14560320
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11127420
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12439626
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16216154

Like I said, it's not a serious thing when compared with, say, nicotine/tobacco withdrawal, but it does exist. Maybe it doesn't for many, but you can't make a post like that baldly claiming it simply does not exist. Using anecdotal evidence to claim some widespread thing doesn't exist or exists, one way or another, is not very rigorous at all, and means absolutely nothing.

Edit - Here's one from last month that is especially interesting:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22153944