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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 10 2014 14:37 GMT
#201
On December 10 2014 23:11 Paragleiber wrote:
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On December 10 2014 06:29 Qikz wrote:
As someone who doesn't like the contracts twitch give out which locks people into their service I'm not seeing this as a good thing.


Wow, I never knew that twitch has shitty contracts like that. That is very disappointing. I wouldn't have expected that from them. :/

I'd like to hear more about this. I know it's been common for events to have a contract with a streaming service (including Twitch) and I've heard of non-Twitch services contracting individuals but I've never heard of Twitch doing it. Unless this is some part of the "partner" program every streamer with a sub button is in, and I've never heard them even mention it what to speak of complain about it.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
December 10 2014 14:50 GMT
#202
On December 10 2014 23:11 Paragleiber wrote:
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On December 10 2014 06:29 Qikz wrote:
As someone who doesn't like the contracts twitch give out which locks people into their service I'm not seeing this as a good thing.


Wow, I never knew that twitch has shitty contracts like that. That is very disappointing. I wouldn't have expected that from them. :/

So you liked twitch, but you're disappointed cuz of that random sentence? A wild sentence with basically no information about anything at all? =) It's the internet, ppl will always hate on everything.

@topic: I love it <3
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
December 10 2014 15:01 GMT
#203
On December 10 2014 23:11 Paragleiber wrote:
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On December 10 2014 06:29 Qikz wrote:
As someone who doesn't like the contracts twitch give out which locks people into their service I'm not seeing this as a good thing.


Wow, I never knew that twitch has shitty contracts like that. That is very disappointing. I wouldn't have expected that from them. :/

To be fair, I would also want my own players to use my own service while streaming.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 10 2014 15:04 GMT
#204
On December 11 2014 00:01 absinthfee wrote:
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On December 10 2014 23:11 Paragleiber wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:29 Qikz wrote:
As someone who doesn't like the contracts twitch give out which locks people into their service I'm not seeing this as a good thing.


Wow, I never knew that twitch has shitty contracts like that. That is very disappointing. I wouldn't have expected that from them. :/

To be fair, I would also want my own players to use my own service while streaming.

That is identical to every major sport or TV should. Production houses make TV shows and then networks lock them down. Its the same with sports.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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OgerGolg
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany65 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 15:27:20
December 10 2014 15:20 GMT
#205
I do not like this.

Imagine Sky is buying a soccer team. Twitch should be more like a platform and not has its on stakes in the content pool.

Besides I love Jaedong, GG

But still very smart from Alex and form his/GG's perspective it is a great deal.
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Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
December 10 2014 15:27 GMT
#206
On December 11 2014 00:20 OgerGolg wrote:
I do not like this.

Imagine Sky is buying a soccer team. Twitch should be more like a platform and not has its on stakes in the content pool.

Besides I love Jaedong, GG


It is not owning, but has NO difference in what is applicable, it makes no difference whatsoever for "locking" then into a single service or not.

https://futeboolworld.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/camisa-corinthians.jpg?w=593

Makes absolutely no difference. At all.

Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 10 2014 15:33 GMT
#207
On December 10 2014 19:50 Furikawari wrote:
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On December 10 2014 18:27 G3CKO wrote:
Wait SC2 is still alive and people still pay attention to it?


That's what I found the most amazing in this thread, how SC2 fans think everything turn around SC2...

On topic, I really dunno what to think about this. Can we now say that Team Tinker is officially Team Twitch? Disasterino...


or maybe EG has had an enormous presence in starcraft 2 since the game was released? why shouldn't we be talking about starcraft 2? o_o
maru lover forever
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 10 2014 15:33 GMT
#208
On December 10 2014 13:25 Daralii wrote:
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On December 10 2014 13:19 HomeWorld wrote:
This doesn't makes any sense, twitch has nothing to gain from this.

Amazon now owns EG, Alliance, Team Tinker, CLG, the largest video game broadcasting website in the world, a tournament(Dota 2 League), and a casting studio. They gained a fuckton.

holyshit 0_O never realized they had that much.

anyway I think this is a postive thing for the industrie
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 10 2014 16:02 GMT
#209
Google has to buy Teamliquid now to maintain the balance!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 16:12:15
December 10 2014 16:10 GMT
#210
Well the thing with personalty in esport , if they are a player, is that they loose relevance easy without results. EG has proven this with their LoL Team and to a extend with their sc2 squad but as this is a side game lets focus on the really big one.

They build their Team around Krepo. They let him sell out hard and made commercials, streaming and everything and forgot to care about results. He admitted by himself that his stream numbers are going down and down because of missing results. And you can see this by so many "pro" gamers in so many other games.

Success is needed to keep you in this PR world. You don't have results you are done. This is something Alex still did not learn or he would have invested in EG LoL and not let the Team get a joke. But what he has shown that he did not care about the Game or the Gamers he wants to promote. He milks them and then let them fall if they dont bring what he needs. But he has to provide them things they need to. Ok here comes SC2 and he gave the players all and they kind of dissapointed from my point of view. After this disaster I would just say fuck you all, I milk you and throw you. But LoL and SC2 is not the same.

And the new Dota Clone of Blizzard? I hope all the old people make good money with it. Once the young hungry kids come they will pass out and no one will care. For me its like the candle in the dark. They grab it because it means some attention, some way back into the spotlight. And they gamble hard on the Blizzard Fanbase. They know they will be done once this game gets relevant or even all people can actually play it. So again I whish them only the best but they are not good enough to make it in the actual esport games so they try hard on this. What I do not understand, why did they all not go full on Hearthstone. Just copy decks, not much skill needed, a lot of luck. Its perfect for players that are not able to catch up to the top in any game it seems.

Yeah thats a lot of maybe negativity. But well this blind fanboy cheer hype stuff is annoying.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
December 10 2014 16:12 GMT
#211
Here's Incontrol's video.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 16:17:51
December 10 2014 16:13 GMT
#212
On December 11 2014 00:04 Plansix wrote:
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On December 11 2014 00:01 absinthfee wrote:
On December 10 2014 23:11 Paragleiber wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:29 Qikz wrote:
As someone who doesn't like the contracts twitch give out which locks people into their service I'm not seeing this as a good thing.


Wow, I never knew that twitch has shitty contracts like that. That is very disappointing. I wouldn't have expected that from them. :/

To be fair, I would also want my own players to use my own service while streaming.

That is identical to every major sport or TV should. Production houses make TV shows and then networks lock them down. Its the same with sports.


Agreed, just like how some other sponsorship brands make you use/ advertise their gaming products (chairs, mice, logos on uniforms, shout-outs, etc.). The sponsorship comes with the deal that you're going to represent and help sell their brand; simple as that. It's not just free money lol.
Plus, nearly all (or all?) of the EG players already use Twitch so it's a moot point, and it's not like any of the other stream services are even remotely comparable to Twitch anyway...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
December 10 2014 16:15 GMT
#213
As long as twitch doesn't prevent their teams from playing in tournaments that aren't streamed on twitch (anything on dailymotion or MLG.tv), good for them.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
December 10 2014 16:27 GMT
#214
And yes I am not jelly, they deserve the money. I just dont trust Alex to not strong arm tournaments again
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44342 Posts
December 10 2014 16:32 GMT
#215
On December 11 2014 01:27 tadL wrote:
And yes I am not jelly, they deserve the money. I just dont trust Alex to not strong arm tournaments again


How would Alex strong tournaments exactly?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 10 2014 16:34 GMT
#216
According to tadL AG wanted a revenue sharing agreement with DreamHack.

lol
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wmb
Profile Joined February 2014
Sweden282 Posts
December 10 2014 16:39 GMT
#217
This is great news! I'm happy for EG!
Hi I'm the infamous wmb, Diamond 1 / Challenger Player.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 10 2014 16:39 GMT
#218
On December 11 2014 01:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
According to tadL AG wanted a revenue sharing agreement with DreamHack.

lol

Like every professional sports team in the US has with its players and with the league. Not really shocked at all. This will be the fight every team is going to have if they want to stay viable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 10 2014 16:43 GMT
#219
On December 11 2014 01:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 01:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
According to tadL AG wanted a revenue sharing agreement with DreamHack.

lol

Like every professional sports team in the US has with its players and with the league. Not really shocked at all. This will be the fight every team is going to have if they want to stay viable.


Essentially this. The more mainstream that gaming becomes the more we'll be witnesses to what capitalization does to everything. The business around esports will be just like the business done in all other markets, and it won't always be pretty from a competitive aspect but it's likely an inevitability.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 10 2014 16:50 GMT
#220
On December 11 2014 01:43 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 01:39 Plansix wrote:
On December 11 2014 01:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
According to tadL AG wanted a revenue sharing agreement with DreamHack.

lol

Like every professional sports team in the US has with its players and with the league. Not really shocked at all. This will be the fight every team is going to have if they want to stay viable.


Essentially this. The more mainstream that gaming becomes the more we'll be witnesses to what capitalization does to everything. The business around esports will be just like the business done in all other markets, and it won't always be pretty from a competitive aspect but it's likely an inevitability.

Yeah, I don't really see it as strong arming as much as reminding events that teams support the players that bring them the viewers, and the team and players might deserve a little piece of the pie. Its not like Dream Hack is paying for EG health insurance or the salaries of the players, or the marketing of those players that got them to the point they are at.
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