European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 990

On November 13 2017 00:58 Sent. wrote:
I know it may be hard to grasp, even on a gaming form, but "unit collision mechanic" also exists in real life. Do you really think 60 000 people covered an area so small that those who came with their kids were in vision range of those who needed to be watched by riot police? How do you even imagine parents taking their little kids to march alongside masked young men holding beer bottles in their hands and shouting vulgar phrases?

On November 13 2017 00:43 Nebuchad wrote:
Glad we could set the record straight that these people were willing to march alongside ethnonationalists rather than being ethnonationalists themselves, I was so concerned with what was happening before I read that and now the situation doesn't seem problematic in the slightest.

On November 13 2017 01:04 Reaps wrote:


If you wasn't so desperate to label everyone you'd probably understand the situation might be a little more naunced than you think.

What Sent said above would be a start.

BERLIN (Reuters) - The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party called on Thursday for the repatriation of half a million Syrian refugees living in Germany, saying the war there was nearly over and that President Bashar al-Assad had urged refugees to return home.

Earlier on Thursday, Syria’s army declared victory over Islamic State, saying its capture of the jihadists’ last town in the country marked the collapse of their three-year, hardline reign in the region.

However, fighting is continuing in many areas, the United Nations says, in a complex civil war in which millions have been killed or forced to flee their homes, many to neighboring countries or to Europe.

The AfD’s proposal for repatriating Syrian refugees is its first since it swept into Germany’s lower house of parliament, the Bundestag, in September’s federal election on an anti-immigrant platform.

It is the third largest party in the new Bundestag but the proposal is very unlikely to win approval as mainstream parties including Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservatives, the biggest bloc, have refused to work with the AfD.

In its proposal, the AfD said the new German government should immediately start talks with Syrian authorities over a deal to repatriate the refugees.

“This deal should ensure that the returnees will be accepted in Syria and accommodated only in safe areas,” the AfD said in a statement adding that Damascus must guarantee not to persecute citizens who escaped the military draft.

The proposal said Syrian refugees’ children in Germany should now be taught the Syrian school curriculum, either by Syrian teachers already resident in Germany or by teachers sent by the Syrian government for this purpose.

The statement, signed by the two party leaders Alexander Gauland and Alice Weidel, said the Syrian government should work with Germany to finance the repatriation, which they said should be free for the individual refugees.

The Greens party, which is expected to join Merkel’s new conservative-led coalition, said the AfD proposal showed the party to be “irresponsible, inhumane and heartless”.

“No subject is too abysmal, no populism is too dirty for you. Shame on you!” Greens politician Luise Amtsberg said on her Facebook account, commenting on the proposal.

Immigration is one of the difficult issues where Merkel’s conservative bloc, the left-leaning Greens and the pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) are struggling to forge a common stance in their coalition talks.

Since the beginning of the year, some 156,000 people have applied for asylum in Germany, more than 25 percent of them from Syria, making them the biggest national group, data from the Federal Interior Ministry showed on Thursday.

On November 12 2017 18:31 GreenHorizons wrote:
Shows how little I know about Europe. I would think Poland would want to shut down anything that even resembled Nazi's.

You guys worried about "white genocide" over there or is that just a US thing?

On November 13 2017 07:28 warding wrote:
Nobody talks about 'white people' in Europe. The only parallel are fears about the 'islamization' of Europe

On November 13 2017 07:36 Nyxisto wrote:


panslavism and pangermanism etc.. are much more on the political fringe than race is in US discourse, but they do exist and they are very much being utilised by far-right groups across Europe. This goes from orthodox or more broadly Christian reactionary groups in Russia and Eastern Europe to anti-semitism in for example Hungary or even far-right parties in Austria who toy around with German nationalism (Kulturdeutsche)

Völkisch ideology might be purposely kept low-profile within larger parties because they see their chance of making it into the mainstream, but it is far from dead.

On November 13 2017 07:28 warding wrote:

Each nation has its own collective memory and scars. Democracy is relatively recent to most European countries and it's not a coincidence that in countries that came out of right-wing dictatorships (Portugal, Spain, Greece), radical left parties have a significant popular support, while countries that came out of the USSR have significant radical right parties.

Nobody talks about 'white people' in Europe. The only parallel are fears about the 'islamization' of Europe. Ironically, anti-immigration sentiment is particularly high in Poland, despite the fact that the influx of Poles in Western Europe following the fall of USSR is comparable in numbers with the Syrian migration into Europe.

On November 13 2017 08:27 sc-darkness wrote:


You can't compare Polish people to Syrians. Polish people are Europeans and they share a lot of values with other European countries. I can't say the same about Syrians which is what my previous post is about. Anyway, this topic isn't something that mods will be happy for people to discuss.