European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 967
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RvB
Netherlands6262 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On October 15 2017 17:06 Big J wrote: So who is excited for 60% votes for a lower taxation of firms and upper incomes, no taxation at all for profits that are not paid out right away, reduction of indirect labor costs (i.e. less payments for firms into the already underfinanced pension system) and more "dynamic" work hours in Austria? Make privileges for the rich great again! Read some articles yesterday about the elections in your country... and I best understand your desire to emigrate lol. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On October 15 2017 18:00 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm curious what, if anything, was the reaction in Germany to this? I support the players' and management's decision. Hertha BSC has historically housed xeno- and homophobic fans and failed to stand against them for quite some time. The "say no to racism" campaign that already runs for ages felt a little odd with Clubs and the German football federation often turning a blind eye to that kind of behaviour. Being in the stadium as a child made me hate many football fans with vigour and I might be a little biased here. Though from what I've read the Club (Hertha BSC) started to actively engage such behaviour in the 2000s and managed to reduce the # of incidents immensely with fans policing fans. Though racism and homophobia still pervade the sport on a false macho culture level as well as in certain fan groups' mindset. The reception I've read varies from "nice PR stunt" to praise for a genuine support of equality. Admittedly I neither use facebook nor do I frequent rightwing/conservative sites so my overview is a little limited. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11735 Posts
On October 15 2017 19:43 RvB wrote: I'm rather amazed that it's such a huge issue in the US. If people want to kneel to protest just let them. It's a legit way to protest without any violence or negative side effects for anyone. I looked up a few news stories and the related comments to that to give a rough impression on how people outside of my social circle think about it. Very important: This comes from about 20 minutes of looking at german news story comments, many of which are quite obviously not made by the smartest people. -A bunch of people saying it is silly to protest US stuff in Germany -A bunch of people saying it is silly that the rich soccer players act as if they care about social problems, while owning a Porsche. -A bunch of people saying the whole thing is pointless because there is no US hymn in the background while they are kneeling -Some people blaming "leftist populists" for hiding protest against the police behind protest against Trump (Protesting Trump is hardly controversial here, barely anyone thinks positively about Trump) -Some barely veiled racists saying they should rather protest against brown people in Berlin in some circumstance or the other -Some people saying that Hertha lost the game after kneeling because there mind was occupied with politics -Some people saying all of the above are idiots and this is a nice display of solidarity. If i were to give an estimate of what people i actually know think about it, the view would be a lot more positive. Something along the lines of "nice, why not". None of them really care about soccer though, and most of them are college leftists. | ||
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farvacola
United States18846 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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farvacola
United States18846 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9270 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
I've never been searched. A classmate of mine was told by our teacher that she can't be good in physics because of her headscarf and that Muslims don't believe in science. Anecdotal, true, but that Europe doesn't have systemic discrimination is a pipe dream. We have a Race Equality Directive for a reason. I'd also challenge the sentiment that you require the discriminated group to hold a significant share of the populace to call it systemic. Also we do have such bigger communities that suffer said systemic discrimination, i.e. Sinti and Roma. | ||
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Yurie
12011 Posts
I can see it in my own reaction when I do the initial judgment of a person. I favour certain looks, clothes and similar things. I think I move past that pretty quickly but it is hard to know for certain. I know I talk to them normally, I can go do stuff outside of work with them and so on. Hard to tell for sure. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11735 Posts
On October 15 2017 22:50 Artisreal wrote: A classmate of mine was told by our teacher that she can't be good in physics because of her headscarf and that Muslims don't believe in science. This is making me incredibly angry, because it hits close to home. I am currently in the process of becoming a maths and physics teacher, and saying something like that to a student is utterly disgusting. WTF. You are a teacher, you are supposed to support your students and bring out the best in them, that is literally the whole point of the job. Discouraging them because of your prejudices is horrible. I hope everybody got mad at that teacher and complained about him to the school director? Because that is definitively what you should do in that case. Also, how the fuck can you tell someone else what they believe in. Edit: A lot of the "educated people end up as taxi drivers" problem is that some countries are very picky in who is allowed to do a job. And those countries often have problems accepting the graduations from other countries. So you might be licensed to practice medicine in syria, but Germany doesn't accept a graduation from a syrian school, and thus you are not licensed to practice medicine in Germany. It is a bit shitty, but in some regards also reasonable if the standards are widely different in other countries. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11735 Posts
And yes, it is not incredibly simple to solve. You can't just let anyone who claims to have a medicine degree from Somalia practice medicine, but there needs to be a good fast track like you described for most jobs. There are agreements with some countries of course, but the whole problem is rather complex. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On October 16 2017 00:00 Simberto wrote: This is making me incredibly angry, because it hits close to home. I am currently in the process of becoming a maths and physics teacher, and saying something like that to a student is utterly disgusting. WTF. You are a teacher, you are supposed to support your students and bring out the best in them, that is literally the whole point of the job. Discouraging them because of your prejudices is horrible. I hope everybody got mad at that teacher and complained about him to the school director? Because that is definitively what you should do in that case. Also, how the fuck can you tell someone else what they believe in. Edit: A lot of the "educated people end up as taxi drivers" problem is that some countries are very picky in who is allowed to do a job. And those countries often have problems accepting the graduations from other countries. So you might be licensed to practice medicine in syria, but Germany doesn't accept a graduation from a syrian school, and thus you are not licensed to practice medicine in Germany. It is a bit shitty, but in some regards also reasonable if the standards are widely different in other countries. The same teacher said to a German pupil that judging from his hairstyle he should be good at physics. He wasn't and even though never saying shit in class and fucking up the tests he got a solid B at the end of the semester. This teacher was challenged multiple times by pupils as well as parents due to the liberal leaning of the district but nothing was done by management. It's kinda hard when you cannot fire them. And keep in mind this was in the early 2000s. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On October 16 2017 00:29 Artisreal wrote: The same teacher said to a German pupil that judging from his hairstyle he should be good at physics. He wasn't and even though never saying shit in class and fucking up the tests he got a solid B at the end of the semester. This teacher was challenged multiple times by pupils as well as parents due to the liberal leaning of the district but nothing was done by management. It's kinda hard when you cannot fire them. And keep in mind this was in the early 2000s. That looks like a problem with one insane person. Kind of hard to judge the entire society based on A person. Austria will have 31 yo prime minister. First Macron now this... Good to see the old farts go away. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
ÖVP (conservatives): 30.5 FPÖ (nationalists): 26.8 SPÖ (social-democrats): 26.2 Neos (liberals): 5.3 Die Grünen (Greens): 4.7 Liste Pilz (Green-Secular): 4.3 | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12386 Posts
On October 16 2017 00:37 Big J wrote: First results of the Austrian election: ÖVP (conservatives): 30.5 FPÖ (nationalists): 26.8 SPÖ (social-democrats): 26.2 Neos (liberals): 5.3 Die Grünen (Greens): 4.7 Liste Pilz (Green-Secular): 4.3 What does conservative mean in Austria? (broadly) | ||
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