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On July 12 2016 04:13 Sent. wrote:
Zatic, by now you should notice your asking "why is it news?" only results in more pages about the topic you don't consider newsworthy. It's news because enough people consider it newsworthy, that's how news work....
No, thats how the yellow press, populism and basically "selling shit" works.
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On July 11 2016 22:25 hfglgg wrote:
The good thing is that for some odd reason, public bathes are deathtraps for refugees. they drown like flies there, lmao. somehow they never learned simple survival techniques like not jumping into deep water. I know you are going to ignore it or whine about the 'PC police' or 'leftist agenda' or that every critic gets labeled a Nazi.
But this comment here could hardly have been more racist (and ignorant too)! Asshole...
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But its actually kinda factual, worded in an asshole way, but not whiteout truth.
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"The good thing is that for some odd reason, public bathes are deathtraps for refugees." that's not a factual statement but a value judgement, and a pretty fucked up one at that.
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On July 13 2016 00:47 lord_nibbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2016 22:25 hfglgg wrote:
The good thing is that for some odd reason, public bathes are deathtraps for refugees. they drown like flies there, lmao. somehow they never learned simple survival techniques like not jumping into deep water. I know you are going to ignore it or whine about the 'PC police' or 'leftist agenda' or that every critic gets labeled a Nazi. But this comment here could hardly have been more racist (and ignorant too)! Asshole...
how can it be racist or ignorant? 20 dead refugees alone already in 2016 compared to only 11 dead people in all of 2015 including refugees.
the bundesverband deutscher schwimmmeister is seeing this as the biggest threat to public pools this season. no one wants dozens of dead bodies swimming in it, but a lot of refugees seemingly really try to die very hard and successsfully.
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On July 12 2016 03:34 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 03:14 Hryul wrote:On July 11 2016 23:40 zatic wrote:On July 11 2016 23:36 DickMcFanny wrote:
Also keep in mind that on more than one occasion, police was explicitly told not to report crimes committed by refugees or immigrants to the media. So the statistics you're citing are very likely untrue. "My opinion collides with reality. Reality must be wrong". Police were told to not report the nationality of criminals on individual cases - which has been standard procedure forever in this country. Instead, they were asked to compile a report on total crime committed by migrants. Results can be read above. In no instance have crimes not been reported. Stop lying. http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/umgang-mit-fluechtlingen-keine-strafverfolgung-bei-ladendiebstahl-14038889.htmlwe have always been at war with Eurasia! Again I am puzzled as to what people are trying to tell me. Can you write a few more lines except a link and a quote? If not I can only guess: You are trying to point out that I am wrong and that the police did in fact cover up crimes committed by migrants? Well, that's not what the article says, and it is the perfect example why local news should stay local and not be used to discuss nation or European wide issues. The article is about the city police of Kiel supposedly not identifying and charging migrants on their way to Sweden who are caught for petty theft that don't carry papers. This is based on an internal memo from the local police, and as the article says it is unclear if this was actually followed-up on or not. The police themselves say this directive was superseded by the time the story came out. At no point have crimes been covered up or not reported. It's a story of the police force of a small city at the edge of Germany, right in path of migrants going to Sweden being overwhelmed. It's a real issue for that city, and the way the dealt with is terrible, which has been discussed at length (even on the federal level) when the original story came out. All that said, jumping from that one local incident to the conclusion that the entire German police, communal, state, and federal is part of some huge conspiracy to cover up crimes is completely ridiculous.
Actually you guessed wrong. I'm not saying that you are wrong, but i want to say that we can't be sure if it happens or not.
The article shows a clear scenario under which circumstances police and prosecution might not do their job.
Seeing how well supported police is in certain cities (Berlin, Rigaer 94) I wouldn't say without a doubt that the official report is correct.
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On July 13 2016 03:02 hfglgg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 00:47 lord_nibbler wrote:On July 11 2016 22:25 hfglgg wrote:
The good thing is that for some odd reason, public bathes are deathtraps for refugees. they drown like flies there, lmao. somehow they never learned simple survival techniques like not jumping into deep water. I know you are going to ignore it or whine about the 'PC police' or 'leftist agenda' or that every critic gets labeled a Nazi. But this comment here could hardly have been more racist (and ignorant too)! Asshole... how can it be racist or ignorant? 20 dead refugees alone already in 2016 compared to only 11 dead people in all of 2015 including refugees. the bundesverband deutscher schwimmmeister is seeing this as the biggest threat to public pools this season. no one wants dozens of dead bodies swimming in it, but a lot of refugees seemingly really try to die very hard and successsfully.
Because you started the sentence with "The good thing is...". As if "hey, at least they are dying doing X". That's how i understood it, but didn't mention it because it sounded like a real crappy thing to be happy about and say it out loud, and thought you just worded it wrong instead.
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beside the fact that i can prove that suiciding refugees or unfit people in general are a good thing for any given country, its mostly to fish for 0 substance posts like nibbler and nyxisto (again).
works like a charm.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Congratulations, you just made me leave this thread. There is no way i want to have any part in this.
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This public baths thing really makes 0 sense to me. I think there is no topic that I could possibly understand less. You could drop me in a train car where they teach quantum physics and aboriginal history simultaneously and I would understand more.
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http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/spain-portugal.12ki (BRUSSELS) - EU finance ministers meeting in Brussels Tuesday backed sanctions against Spain and Portugal for failing to correct their excessive deficits according to their recommendations.
The EU Council confirmed that the two countries were not going to reduce their deficits below 3% of GDP - the EU's reference value for government deficits - by the recommended deadline. And in both cases, it found the fiscal effort to fall significantly short of what was recommended.
The finance ministers' decisions will trigger sanctions under the excessive deficit procedure. The Commission now has 20 days to recommend further Council decisions imposing fines. Those fines should amount to 0.2% of GDP, though Portugal and Spain can submit reasoned requests within 10 days for a reduction of the fines. The Council will have 10 days to approve the fines.
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0,2% of GDP is the max. amount. The fine is supposed to be in between 0,0% and 0,2% of GDP. It could very well be 0,0% according to SPIEGEL. In addition EU infrastructure funds could be cut.
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/spanien-portugal-euro-staaten-erhoehen-druck-wegen-haushaltsdefiziten-a-1102574.html
Zuletzt war eine symbolische Strafe von null Euro gegen Spanien und Portugal im Gespräch, die wie andere Länder Südeuropas mit den Nachwehen der Euroschuldenkrise zu kämpfen haben.
Daneben droht beiden Staaten ein Einfrieren von EU-Strukturmitteln. Diese könnten sich auf dem Papier auf 1,3 Milliarden Euro für Spanien und etwa 500 Millionen Euro für Portugal summieren. Die Mittel können allerdings jederzeit wieder aufgetaut werden, wenn die betroffenen Länder Besserung geloben.
The last discussions were about a symbolic fine of 0 Euros against Spain and Portugal.
Besides both countries could face a freezing of EU structural funds. These could on paper amount to 1.3 Billion Euro for Spain and 0.5 Billion Euro for Portugal. These resources can be freed up anytime if the corresponding countries vow to improve their deficit spending.
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Stupid ass europe.
Hit those countries harder, they already have 20 % unemployment it's okay.
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Which parts of "0%", "could" and "can be freed up anytime if the corresponding countries vow to improve their deficit spending" didn't you understand?
Nothing happens, the EU seems to play nice and is bending its own rules (0% fine). These rules may be stupid and could poentially be harsh, but it seems like the EU itself isn't interested in enforcing them.
So, what exactly are you mumbling about?
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On July 13 2016 22:37 Velr wrote:
Which parts of "0%", "could" and "can be freed up anytime if the corresponding countries vow to improve their deficit spending" didn't you understand?
Nothing happens, the EU seems to play nice and is bending its own rules (0% fine). These rules may be stupid and could poentially be harsh, but it seems like the EU itself isn't interested in enforcing them.
So, what exactly are you mumbling about?
You don't understand much do you ?
The fine in itself is way less problematic than a possibility of another restrictive budgetary policy in Spain and Portugal, especially in Spain. Spain is in the worst situation in europe, its wage are not decreasing enough in comparaison to Germany, its productivity gains are less than that of Germany, which mean that, considering the fact that both germany and spain have the same currency (and thus that exchange rate are fix), the desequilibrium between Spain and Germany is increasing as year pass rather than decreasing.
If things goes on, especially with such restrictive policy, without any kind of action from the european union to reequilibrate the european union, spain is going for a decade of lowgrowth and low wage increase.
The commission should punish Germany for its surplus (and thus force them to increase wage) rather than punishing weak countries for their deficit, but they don't have balls - or, they roll for Germany, which is obviously the case in Germania.
The EU is completly irresponsible, there is no way out of this situation for europe with such policy, and they continue like dimwits.
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They haven't done anything yet and from the article they don't seem to want to.
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On July 13 2016 23:15 Velr wrote:
They haven't done anything yet and from the article they don't seem to want to.
They talk every month about pounishing an european country for their deficit - last month Juncker menaced France.
But what about Germany's surplus ? They never said anything about that, at no point in time, like it's normal, not problematic.
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We failed the target because the PP lowered the taxes prior to elections to gain votes (we exactly failed for that amount). And now we will have to eat more shit for voting the party the EU wants in power. Juncker himself was trying hard to get this under the rug by delaying it enough for holidays to start and give Spain time to fix it, but some Czech politicians pushed this forward. Or we were told, because i can't find anything on the international media about it.
I know this comes a few days later but...
Europe urgently needs a 150 billion-euro ($166 billion) bailout fund to recapitalize its beleaguered banks, particularly those in Italy, Deutsche Bank AG’s chief economist said in an interview with Welt am Sonntag.
"Europe is extremely sick and must start dealing with its problems extremely quickly, or else there may be an accident," Deutsche Bank’s David Folkerts-Landau said, according to the newspaper. "I’m no doomsday prophet, I am a realist."
With Italian banks weighed down by 360 billion euros of soured loans, the government has been sounding out regulators on ways to shore up lenders amid a renewed selloff after Britain voted to leave the European Union. Lorenzo Bini Smaghi, a former member of the European Central Bank’s executive board who now chairs Societe Generale SA, said Wednesday that Italy’s banking crisis could spread to the rest of Europe and rules limiting state aid to lenders should be reconsidered to prevent greater upheaval.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-10/eu-banks-need-166-billion-deutsche-bank-economist-tells-welt
Hmm ,more money for the banks then ?
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