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On September 13 2015 04:16 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
It's not a case of preventing any muslim refugees coming (or immigrants) but making sure anyone of any religion understands what they have to abide by BEFORE they get there.
These people are born here, they didn't "get" here, that they favour a parallel justice system over our institutions is a collective failure. It also again has nothing to do with their religion. "street" or gang law is again prevalent in all kinds of poverty ridden communities.
Also the problem of unofficial arbitration courts is incredibly overblown. The German bar association came to the conclusion that "It's not really something we get asked about a lot," Spokesman Swen Walentowski said. "So, we suspect that people are making a mountain out of a molehill here."
http://www.dw.com/en/muslim-arbitration-in-germany/a-15711364
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^First point, yeah, I was just making the point that for those (whatever religion or lack thereof, nationality etc.) who aren't here yet, that is important.
On September 13 2015 05:17 dismiss wrote:
Quite frankly it's shocking just how positively medieval these people acted and I find it hard to explain it by them being less fortunate. I've not heard of or witnessed any extralegal structures of that magnitude within a western country.
Yeah, it's possible that violent crimes are much more likely to happen when there are greater inequalities, but that doesn't force them to behave that way. Masses of other people suffering in many countries don't get as much attention simply because they don't do terrible shit. I's not like you let people get away with violence because they're poor or give extra assistance to poor people BECAUSE they act that way. :/
If anything, it's reason to look for ways to save money when suing/imprisoning/deporting/revoking nationality of people (including people born there, of whatever ethnic background including "native") who commit heinous crimes and put more funding into support for the poor.
You don't JUST give more funding to helping the poor in reaction to shit happening. 
Strong but ethical rule of law, strong support for the community.
(To be clear, I wasn't suggesting you were arguing against this)
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Is that the best you have for "all murder statistics" that say the same thing? Beyond being a whole lot of cherry picking, it's a strawman to consider predominantly Muslim countries rather than to consider Muslims vs. non-Muslims within Europe, and preferably in Germany.
Some objections to that study: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/myth-muslim-murder-myth_836531.html
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That response challenges exactly zero claims of the original article but tells us that 'the liberals' are going to ruin us about a dozen times, and that Zack Beauchamp is the worst liberal of them all. Also pointing out that the crime rate in Indonesia is exceptionally low is apparently also an argument in favour of authoritarianism. alhtough the democracy index considers Indonesia to be about as democratic as Greece,Slovakia or Argentina.
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There was a demonstration yesterday in Gdansk with a big billboard saying : Welcome to hell, stray sheeps - 12.09.1683 Jan III Sobieski, kek.
Also I saw that people from Monachium demonstrated as well, claiming there is no place for them to move in their home city since it's full of migrants and they ask for help. KEK.
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It seems that after approx 14k refugees have arrived at Munich yesterday alone, and the capacity for registration and distributionof refugees within Germany is absolutley at the limits, there will be federal border controls again at Germany's southern border. It seems this is not to stop the taking in of refugees entirely, but rather to limit the flow so the helpers can catch up.
Source: www.spiegel.de
Also, the BAMF (our office which handles the registration of refugees, granting of asylum applications) is under fire for being too slow. They are still processing 2014's requests.
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Welp, so much planning ahead from Germany who said there would be not limit for refugees 2 days ago.
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On September 14 2015 00:02 Faust852 wrote:
Welp, so much planning ahead from Germany who said there would be not limit to refugee 2 days ago.
Didn't they (or Austrians) say that it was a one day exception?
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On September 14 2015 00:04 Sent. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 00:02 Faust852 wrote:
Welp, so much planning ahead from Germany who said there would be not limit to refugee 2 days ago. Didn't they (or Austrians) say that it was a one day exception?
Yeah because if they are already submerged today, they obviously won't be with the 20000 new arrivals every day for he rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +
Number of migrants captured by the police in Hungary
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Yup, they'll deal with it somehow in a day. Meanwhile we should applause Germany and Austria bashing Hungary because they have difficulties dealing with the influx.
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On September 14 2015 00:06 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 00:04 Sent. wrote:On September 14 2015 00:02 Faust852 wrote:
Welp, so much planning ahead from Germany who said there would be not limit to refugee 2 days ago. Didn't they (or Austrians) say that it was a one day exception? Yeah because if they are already submerged today, they obviously won't be with the 20000 new arrivals every day for he rest of the year. + Show Spoiler +Number of migrants captured by the police in Hungary (...)
I just want to clarify, the 20 000 number (and the purple graph) is not the per day arrivals, but all the arrivals up to that day in 2015.
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Well, there's no 20000 it seems. It is just over 200000 in total (magenta line, uses the right numbers) as of partway through the first of September 2015, while the number that arrived per day (navy line, uses the left numbers) during September has so far varied between about 1000 (low point), to about 3350 (medium high) and 4350 or so at that high point.
Oh, turned into a mutalisk.  No more queenie. ㅠ____ㅠ
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They're effectively pausing the schenghen treaty until further notice. What a weird chain of event, who would have thought.
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Two topless feminists storm Muslim conference stage during 'wife beating' discussion
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/two-topless-feminists-storm-muslim-6435892
This conference is happening in Pontoise, 1 hour from Paris by car.
A "muslim salon" about women was organized with the participation of clerics like Nader Abou Anas who preaches conjugal rape[1] in Bobigny, or Rachid Abou Houdeyfa, a member of the "comity against islamophobia" and the imam of Brest who thinks that if women don't cover themselves properly then they should expect sexual assault, among other nice things.
The Femen activists intervened in the middle of a debate on "when should you beat your wife ?" and as soon as they appeared on stage screams of "dirty sluts, we should kill them" could be heard.
And it's 2015.
Edit : in case some people think it's some right-wing nonsense because this is the Mirror, it has been reported by many reliable French online newspapers, like Le Parisien[2] , L'Obs[3] , BFM TV[4] , Le Point[5] , Le Figaro[6] , Le Monde[7] , Libération[8] .
Interestingly when something like this happens in France, most of the serious English-speaking media does not report it. I'm still waiting for the BBC article... - shadowbanane from reddit
Islamophobia isn't rational yadayada.
I wonder where is the BBC coverage...
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That's reasonable. I knew it was possible but wasn't sure if they're going to do it because they could be afraid of racism accusations or whatever.
On September 14 2015 06:16 Faust852 wrote:Two topless feminists storm Muslim conference stage during 'wife beating' discussion http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/two-topless-feminists-storm-muslim-6435892Show nested quote +This conference is happening in Pontoise, 1 hour from Paris by car.
A "muslim salon" about women was organized with the participation of clerics like Nader Abou Anas who preaches conjugal rape[1] in Bobigny, or Rachid Abou Houdeyfa, a member of the "comity against islamophobia" and the imam of Brest who thinks that if women don't cover themselves properly then they should expect sexual assault, among other nice things.
The Femen activists intervened in the middle of a debate on "when should you beat your wife ?" and as soon as they appeared on stage screams of "dirty sluts, we should kill them" could be heard.
And it's 2015.
Edit : in case some people think it's some right-wing nonsense because this is the Mirror, it has been reported by many reliable French online newspapers, like Le Parisien[2] , L'Obs[3] , BFM TV[4] , Le Point[5] , Le Figaro[6] , Le Monde[7] , Libération[8] .
Interestingly when something like this happens in France, most of the serious English-speaking media does not report it. I'm still waiting for the BBC article... - shadowbanane from reddit Islamophobia isn't rational yadayada. I wonder where is the BBC coverage...
Rofl this is like a dream scenario. Modern feminists and religious fanatics fighting each other instead of attacking white males.
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On September 14 2015 06:18 Sent. wrote:That's reasonable. I knew it was possible but wasn't sure if they're going to do it because they could be afraid of racism accusations or whatever. Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 06:16 Faust852 wrote:Two topless feminists storm Muslim conference stage during 'wife beating' discussion http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/two-topless-feminists-storm-muslim-6435892This conference is happening in Pontoise, 1 hour from Paris by car.
A "muslim salon" about women was organized with the participation of clerics like Nader Abou Anas who preaches conjugal rape[1] in Bobigny, or Rachid Abou Houdeyfa, a member of the "comity against islamophobia" and the imam of Brest who thinks that if women don't cover themselves properly then they should expect sexual assault, among other nice things.
The Femen activists intervened in the middle of a debate on "when should you beat your wife ?" and as soon as they appeared on stage screams of "dirty sluts, we should kill them" could be heard.
And it's 2015.
Edit : in case some people think it's some right-wing nonsense because this is the Mirror, it has been reported by many reliable French online newspapers, like Le Parisien[2] , L'Obs[3] , BFM TV[4] , Le Point[5] , Le Figaro[6] , Le Monde[7] , Libération[8] .
Interestingly when something like this happens in France, most of the serious English-speaking media does not report it. I'm still waiting for the BBC article... - shadowbanane from reddit Islamophobia isn't rational yadayada. I wonder where is the BBC coverage... Rofl this is like a dream scenario. Modern feminists and religious fanatics fighting each other instead of attacking white males.
That's what feminism should stand for, not this BS of white male bashing.
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On September 14 2015 06:32 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 06:18 Sent. wrote:That's reasonable. I knew it was possible but wasn't sure if they're going to do it because they could be afraid of racism accusations or whatever. On September 14 2015 06:16 Faust852 wrote:Two topless feminists storm Muslim conference stage during 'wife beating' discussion http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/two-topless-feminists-storm-muslim-6435892This conference is happening in Pontoise, 1 hour from Paris by car.
A "muslim salon" about women was organized with the participation of clerics like Nader Abou Anas who preaches conjugal rape[1] in Bobigny, or Rachid Abou Houdeyfa, a member of the "comity against islamophobia" and the imam of Brest who thinks that if women don't cover themselves properly then they should expect sexual assault, among other nice things.
The Femen activists intervened in the middle of a debate on "when should you beat your wife ?" and as soon as they appeared on stage screams of "dirty sluts, we should kill them" could be heard.
And it's 2015.
Edit : in case some people think it's some right-wing nonsense because this is the Mirror, it has been reported by many reliable French online newspapers, like Le Parisien[2] , L'Obs[3] , BFM TV[4] , Le Point[5] , Le Figaro[6] , Le Monde[7] , Libération[8] .
Interestingly when something like this happens in France, most of the serious English-speaking media does not report it. I'm still waiting for the BBC article... - shadowbanane from reddit Islamophobia isn't rational yadayada. I wonder where is the BBC coverage... Rofl this is like a dream scenario. Modern feminists and religious fanatics fighting each other instead of attacking white males. That's what feminism should stand for, not this BS of white male bashing.
Yeah - those idiots were actually debating on the question "should a man beat his woman ?". How does those tards can actually rent a place is what I'm asking myself...
The FEMEN are always kinda violent and I usually disagree with their methods : two years ago they came half naked to a manifestation against mariage for all with tear gas (and got physically agressed by the manifestants).
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On September 14 2015 17:40 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 06:32 Faust852 wrote:On September 14 2015 06:18 Sent. wrote:That's reasonable. I knew it was possible but wasn't sure if they're going to do it because they could be afraid of racism accusations or whatever. On September 14 2015 06:16 Faust852 wrote:Two topless feminists storm Muslim conference stage during 'wife beating' discussion http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/two-topless-feminists-storm-muslim-6435892This conference is happening in Pontoise, 1 hour from Paris by car.
A "muslim salon" about women was organized with the participation of clerics like Nader Abou Anas who preaches conjugal rape[1] in Bobigny, or Rachid Abou Houdeyfa, a member of the "comity against islamophobia" and the imam of Brest who thinks that if women don't cover themselves properly then they should expect sexual assault, among other nice things.
The Femen activists intervened in the middle of a debate on "when should you beat your wife ?" and as soon as they appeared on stage screams of "dirty sluts, we should kill them" could be heard.
And it's 2015.
Edit : in case some people think it's some right-wing nonsense because this is the Mirror, it has been reported by many reliable French online newspapers, like Le Parisien[2] , L'Obs[3] , BFM TV[4] , Le Point[5] , Le Figaro[6] , Le Monde[7] , Libération[8] .
Interestingly when something like this happens in France, most of the serious English-speaking media does not report it. I'm still waiting for the BBC article... - shadowbanane from reddit Islamophobia isn't rational yadayada. I wonder where is the BBC coverage... Rofl this is like a dream scenario. Modern feminists and religious fanatics fighting each other instead of attacking white males. That's what feminism should stand for, not this BS of white male bashing. Yeah - those idiots were actually debating on the question "should a man beat his woman ?". How does those tards can actually rent a place is what I'm asking myself... The FEMEN are always kinda violent and I usually disagree with their methods : two years ago they came half naked to a manifestation against mariage for all with tear gas (and got physically agressed by the manifestants).
They also chainsawed a cross in Kiev that was a memorial of NKVD victims to protest against Pussy Riot being jailed...
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Look, if the nutters on both sides can sort each other out without involving any innocent people of any group, it's not too bad.
Unfortunately, I think violent conflicts in the middle east show that outcome has an extremely low probability.
The Mirror wrote: But it has drawn criticism from other feminist groups for its approach, especially towards minority communities.
Wait, so other feminists are complaining because "it picked on a (fucking batshit insane, childish, downright evil) minority"?
Criticising the approach, sure. Seems they just don't want the risk of increased threat to the lives of all feminist activists, understandably, but then if that's the case, some honestly would be nice.
Much safer to blame innocent parts of the majority that are largely on your side (well, that's if wanting equal rights is their side, surely varies from alleged feminist to alleged feminist).
It occurs we'd better not get too much further into that topic unless more unravels though. I don't mean to derail. 
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On September 14 2015 06:11 WhiteDog wrote:They're effectively pausing the schenghen treaty until further notice. What a weird chain of event, who would have thought.
De Maiziere has always been a complete idiot. This panic reaction of the Merkel government is just an other completely idiotic attempt to please the conservative crowd and just confirms that the EUs refugee and border politics have been a complete failure.
Humanity is sadly not something what could be expected from this sort of government.
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