EPTWorld Chess Championship 2013 - Page 66
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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0x64
Finland4634 Posts
![[image loading]](http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/meth-damon.jpg) PEW PEW ANAND | ||
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Whalecore
Norway1111 Posts
There are so many millions watching - why not capitalize? | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2086 Posts
How has Anand played in previous longer series? Is he actually capable of varying his style and adapting further than he has shown this time? So far what I've picked up about Anand is that he's a very analtyical and well prepared player, but also shines on dynamic midgame situations. Are we expecting him to pull off something a bit more crazy in the midgame or so? | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
On November 18 2013 21:34 Bacillus wrote: This is first time I'm closely following a longer chess series, got a couple of questions: How has Anand played in previous longer series? Is he actually capable of varying his style and adapting further than he has shown this time? So far what I've picked up about Anand is that he's a very analtyical and well prepared player, but also shines on dynamic midgame situations. Are we expecting him to pull off something a bit more crazy in the midgame or so? Anand - Kasparov WCh Match, 1995 This is the only longer WCh match Anand played in. But it was against Kasparov and Vishy wasn't at his peak yet. However, in Anand - Kramnik WCh Match, 2008, Vishy took his chances mostly with Black pieces and prevailed +3 =7 -1, showing really kickass play. Perhaps there's a chance now, at least in one game, that he will be able to do something with Black again. After all, out of 5 games remaining, he has 3 games with that color to go. | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On November 18 2013 11:39 Oshuy wrote: Reasons for this inflation are unclear, but the inflation itself is real. If you look at the average ELO of the top 100, it shows a steady increase. ![[image loading]](http://en.chessbase.com/portals/4/files/news/2009/sonas02.gif) In that sense, it is not surprising to have a new top ELO every generation. What makes the Fisher, Kasparov or Carlsen numbers "survive" for some time is the gap between those players and the rest of the field. - Fisher was #1 with 2760 ELO in 1972, 70points over #2 at the time (Spassky), he was the first over 2700. - Kasparov reached 2851 in 2000, 80points over #2 at the time (Kramnik), he was the first over 2800 - Carlsen had a 75 points lead to #2 (Kramnik again) at 2870 in october. He might get 2900 (would probably need the rest of the top 10 to get to 2800+ to feed those points) There are 2 ways to get the ELO record: Be the best by a small margin when the curve leads you to the mark, or crush all opposition by a large margin and get there ahead of time. Those 3 have done it by getting far ahead, but even if no new genius comes after Carlsen to crush the field, his current rating could still be average for top 10 in 20 years. (Fisher's 2760 would barely get him in today's top 10) And of course, an absolute ELO value is by no means a "level" estimate (since it's only a comparison to current players), so the record itself is meaningless. That said, go Anand, win one before it's over ! There are 2 very, very clear reasons for this. #1: The players of today are simply better than the players of 50 years ago (This is pretty damned obvious with the ability to study with computers far better than anything we've seen even 20 years ago, opening theory is also a lot more refined). Keep in mind you can go back and study old games with computer analysis for very definitive proof of this being true. #2: There are A LOT more players. Every time a new player is introduced in the ELO system, you get inflation. If 1 million 2000 or lower ELO players were to suddenly appear out of nowhere the people hovering above 2000+ would suddenly see a massive inflation boost because there are suddenly 1 million players they are better than and can leach rating off of. For every person worse than you, that's the ability for a world champion to have a higher rating cap in general, swiss style. However I do not personally believe that Chess has expanded by that much over the last 50 or so years, if anyone has statistics on chess playrate I'd love to see it! | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
That's relatively recent though, doesn't explain much of the inflation. | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
"What to say about game 7? Anand played like he's the one with a two game lead and an advantage in quiet positions." | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
Poll: What was the most exciting game so far? Game 6 ( Berlin with 4. d3) (4) Game 4 (Berlin) (3) Game 5 ( Semi-Slav) (1) Game 3 (King's Indian) (0) 8 total votes Your vote: What was the most exciting game so far? (Vote): Game 3 (King's Indian) | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
Poll: Game 8 Prediction? (Carlsen plays as White) Draw (Boring) (8) Carlsen Wins (Barely) (4) Draw (Great Game) (4) Anand Wins (Barely) (1) Anand Wins (Crushes) (1) Carlsen Wins (Crushes) (0) 18 total votes Your vote: Game 8 Prediction? (Carlsen plays as White) (Vote): Carlsen Wins (Barely) | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
Of course, yesterday's draw was in a disappointing style, but Carlsen showed excellent defense. Anand is probably cautious against coming out in disadvantage after mid-game, and after two losses I think he was content with stabilizing. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
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